An administrator of another school made a comment that I can still hear today: "It's so nice to see the students engaged, sitting on the edge of their seats -- attentive and participating... rather than leaning back passively".
First, I totally agree with your post.
Maria Montessori proved that children learn through all their senses. An iPad adds dimension to their senses, like any computer. However, children seem to prefer to learn and engage with others in small ad hoc groups on the floor or on the move; ways that the desktop computer couldn't accommodate.
An administrator of another school made a comment that I can still hear today: "It's so nice to see the students engaged, sitting on the edge of their seats -- attentive and participating... rather than leaning back passively".
First, I totally agree with your post.
Maria Montessori proved that children learn through all their senses. An iPad adds dimension to their senses, like any computer. However, children seem to prefer to learn and engage with others in small ad hoc groups on the floor or on the move; ways that the desktop computer couldn't accommodate.
Finally, the Dynabook has arrived!
“When the Mac first came out, Newsweek asked me what I [thought] of it. I said: Well, it’s the first personal computer worth criticizing. So at the end of the presentation, Steve came up to me and said: Is the iPhone worth criticizing? And I said: Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you’ll rule the world.”
- Alan Kay-
Edit: the practical side of.My brain posted the above... "small ad hoc groups on the floor or on the move" is the story here...
And, when it comes to learning, we're all children... That's the beauty...
The iPad is much more high profile, prolific, and most certainly gets the attention of educators more so than competing products. At the same time those "other products" do get adopted.
For real... a Motorola Xoom was deemed the best tablet for their needs? I pretty much stopped reading after that line came up. That alone tells me the teacher and an iHating agenda right then and there.
So she picked the Xoom because of the "easy to use Android" and "low cost".
What's cheaper? Using a Xoom, having it fall apart, and having to go out and buy another tablet, or just buy an iPad and be done with it?
The iPad is much more high profile, prolific, and most certainly gets the attention of educators more so than competing products. At the same time those "other products" do get adopted.
For real... a Motorola Xoom was deemed the best tablet for their needs? I pretty much stopped reading after that line came up. That alone tells me the teacher and an iHating agenda right then and there.
So she picked the Xoom because of the "easy to use Android" and "low cost".
What's cheaper? Using a Xoom, having it fall apart, and having to go out and buy another tablet, or just buy an iPad and be done with it?
I think the number of units sold answers that (rhetorical) question. iPads OR some other tablet ¡
Students graduating from 8th grade have the option to buy "their" iPad at reduced cost at the end of the year. They pay attention.
That's an amazing idea. If LA introduced a similar plan they'd save even more money. They could use the iPads for 3 years each and every year offer to sell the iPads to the student who uses it at a somewhat reduced price. I'd bet they'd get a good 10% of students to take the offer; money that could be used when the iPad renewal program comes around. It's simple ideas like this that make all the difference when you consider how high in demand and how value-retaining iPads are.
Digital books are updated all time -- the publisher just submits a revised book to the digital bookstore -- and the updates are made available to all users of that book...
That's not true for most college-level textbooks. Maybe it ought to be as textbooks become more like software, but just today I had to request a new "desk copy" of an etext that's gone to the 9th edition when I already had the 8th and earlier. That's Pearson -- which is also a big K-12 publisher. Other publishers have done the same in my experience.
Digital books are updated all time -- the publisher just submits a revised book to the digital bookstore -- and the updates are made available to all users of that book...
That's not true for most college-level textbooks. Maybe it ought to be as textbooks become more like software, but just today I had to request a new "desk copy" of an etext that's gone to the 9th edition when I already had the 8th and earlier. That's Pearson -- which is also a big K-12 publisher. Other publishers have done the same in my experience.
Yeah... There may be a few "other things" in play... transition from a physical system to a digital system; resale of used books; politics; litigation; MFN pricing; Stick & Stucco vs Online sales; friction between traditional (institutional) sales channels and direct sales channels; reseller contracts/agreements, below cost sellers attempting to gain market dominance... to name a few!
Or, maybe college-level textbooks are just special!
Immediate failure. This is a really bad idea that will cost L.A. taxpayers a lot of money. Feel good program. The left wing in this country really needs to stop trying to educate our children.
Immediate failure. This is a really bad idea that will cost L.A. taxpayers a lot of money. Feel good program. The left wing in this country really needs to stop trying to educate our children.
There are two lasting bequests we can give our children: one is roots, the other is wings.
-Hodding Carter-
[B][U][SIZE=4]Wheels for the mind [/SIZE][/U][/B] Jobs once said, "Using a computer is like riding a bicycle. It gets you to and from places with great speed and efficiency; it's like getting wheels for the mind." This simple analogy was quickly appropriate into a slogan and a marketing initiative for the a discount program for Macintosh for Apple University Consortium schools members.
Not to be a kill joy but I hope they install some serious anti-theft/recovery software on them.
Our local school district rolled out iPad's to our middle school and kids were getting jumped for their iPads. School district had to take all of them back and they could only be used in school.
Not to be a kill joy but I hope they install some serious anti-theft/recovery software on them.
Our local school district rolled out iPad's to our middle school and kids were getting jumped for their iPads. School district had to take all of them back and they could only be used in school.
There's no reason they should be taken home, anyway.
That's not true for most college-level textbooks. Maybe it ought to be as textbooks become more like software, but just today I had to request a new "desk copy" of an etext that's gone to the 9th edition when I already had the 8th and earlier. That's Pearson -- which is also a big K-12 publisher. Other publishers have done the same in my experience.
I find it amusing how many of you assume that digital text books are going to be regularly updated. Why would the publisher want to do that? If anything, they want to purposely NOT update existing copies, because they want to make everyone buy the new copy. In fact, the publishers are going to do everything in their power to tie their ebooks to a single device. That way when a school replaces an ipad, they will have to replace their ebooks as well. The only way they'll do free updates is if the schools pay a yearly subscription to their ebook service, or if some new quasi-state run epublisher comes about that rewrites the rules on epublishing. The existing publishers have a great deal right now, they can charge insane prices for their (physical) books, then update them to make them "obsolete" (or at least kill the used market/force schools to update all their books because they lost too many copies of their existing ones that are no longer published). Additionally, when books wear out, the schools are forced to pay their inflated prices to buy them again... Like they're really going to give up this money printing machine to help schools switch to ebooks.
As for the theft issue mentioned in another comment... How does keeping them at the school end up solving the textbook problem? At least when I was a kid, we had a thing called homework, which requires... the test book.
Is it lost on anyone that Apple is not really discounting the prices. They are milking our schools. That is absolutely shameful! They should sell them just above or at cost! Especially since it creates iPad users and benefits their future sales. I like Apple products but dislike their business practices. They are NOT a good citizen. And that is something we should require of all our companies, public and private. Has anyone noted that the cost of ebook textbooks is as high as the printed version. Companies and investors are parasitizing our schools and children while we sit back and watch. Let's just wait and see how much advertising is presented to schoolchildren on these devices.
If we don't demand low pricing for products our schools then we pay that cost through taxes. Those tax dollars are better spent on salaries that attract good teachers. Teachers are some of the most important members of our society and we should recognize that. They are more important than CEOs! (No, I am not a teacher nor do I work in education. And I own two ipads)
The Google Nexus 7/10 are great tables at a much lower cost (as I said, I own an iPad but know value when I see it. If I didn't already have a lot of apps on the iPad, I would switch). I will not be surprised to see there are not some kickbacks happening to those in the LA school system that chose the most expensive solution on the market.
Is it lost on anyone that Apple is not really discounting the prices. They are milking our schools. That is absolutely shameful! They should sell them just above or at cost! Especially since it creates iPad users and benefits their future sales. I like Apple products but dislike their business practices. They are NOT a good citizen. And that is something we should require of all our companies, public and private. Has anyone noted that the cost of ebook textbooks is as high as the printed version. Companies and investors are parasitizing our schools and children while we sit back and watch. Let's just wait and see how much advertising is presented to schoolchildren on these devices.
If we don't demand low pricing for products our schools then we pay that cost through taxes. Those tax dollars are better spent on salaries that attract good teachers. Teachers are some of the most important members of our society and we should recognize that. They are more important than CEOs! (No, I am not a teacher nor do I work in education. And I own two ipads)
The Google Nexus 7/10 are great tables at a much lower cost (as I said, I own an iPad but know value when I see it. If I didn't already have a lot of apps on the iPad, I would switch). I will not be surprised to see there are not some kickbacks happening to those in the LA school system that chose the most expensive solution on the market.
Why should they sell a product they support just like anyone else at just above cost? They would lose money and companies are not in business to lose money.
Google has to sell their products just above cost because no one would buy them if they charged more money for them. Two, Google is not in the hardware business, that's not their main focus on revenue generation. Thirdly, it is my opinion that Google is merely releasing the Nexus product as to not compete with their OEMs, but to have to give to their internal employees and to make enough product and sell to mostly developers and to break even. If Google were to launch a major marketing/ad campaign and still sell as many as they could, the low margins would bring down their total Net Profits and the stock would take a nose dive due to smaller margins. Essentially, it makes sense to only sell enough to break even so they can basically have free products for their employees.
Now, if you have taken business courses and understood what it takes for a company to be financially successful so you wouldn't have to shut the doors down or have to forced to lose your job as a CEO, or sell your business much like others like IBM, Compaq, AST Research, and others have, the name of the game is making a decent profit margin. Now, what Apple does is they offer the iPad 2, which is a lower cost model that still sells to schools. What the profit margins are on those devices, I don't know. I do know that Samsung raised prices on processors to Apple and maybe the cost of those iPad 2's were affected by increased pricing for those devices. But, Apple has shareholders (Institutional), as well as analysts, as well as customers and they have to make everyone happy as much as they can. But Apple does do a lot for the educational system that doesn't cost ANYTHING. Have you ever heard of iTunes U? It is where K-12 and College Universities can post full length lectures for their students and anyone else interested to download and view FOR FREE. Apple still absorbs the cost of hosting and content delivery, which isn't cheap. I don't see Google, Samsung, Microsoft, or anyone else dedicating that much resources to providing educational enhancements like a place students can access tons of college lectures FOR FREE.
The cost of the hardware is immaterial if there aren't applications available.
The problem YOU have is that you go strictly by price and specs. I have some information for you. Large institutions, corporations do NOT always go by just price and specs. They typically have to go through a selection process to determine what platform offers all of the things they need to make the best decision on the PLATFORM, and then choose the products that best fit their needs as to avoid costly IT management overhead.
Another facet of Apple iPads is the iBook Authoring software, which is free. NOTHING like that software exists on Android or Windows for that matter. These schools and colleges can create their own iBooks and make them available to their students either at a cost or for free. So that's another thing that Nexus DOES NOT have. The other aspect as mentioned before is application written for their particular market not only for the students, but for faculty as well. There are companies that only develop educational software for Apple OS X and iOS devices just like their might be others that develop for Windows, but I can assure you, Android is not high up on the list of supported platform that meets all of the needs of many of these educational markets.
So in the mean time, your spec/price comparison becomes COMPLETELY meaningless, especially when you take into consideration that there is more malware and security issues for the Android platform than any other mobile device platform, which is a HUGE concern of ANYONE that takes IT products seriously, which obviously you don't. The Nexus platform doesn't have Enterprise management software, Samsung is the only one, but the jury is still out as to how good it really is, and quite frankly, a lot of these schools are using OS X computers and Apple makes their iOS devices do things with the OS X desktop/laptops that Android doesn't compete on all levels. Then you have a company that offers products like Apple TV, so the kids and teachers can AirPlay their screens to big screen.
Even Microsoft can't give away their Surface RT product to teachers, since Apple is already entrenched. So, in the mean time, be grateful the Android platform is selling in the first place, but most consumers don't know how to evaluate a platform if they just look at price and specs.
Try factoring the cost of a malware attack on an flock of Nexus devices. Those attacks if become widespread within a company or school can cost thousands, tens of thousands, even millions. They would rather have piece of mind rather than take the risk of security and malware issues that plague the Android platform. Get your head out of your self, The Educational market chooses Apple products and they have a LONG standing relationship with Apple that goes back to the early 80's before Google existed.
The other things that Apple supplies is factored in which saves LOTS of money elsewhere.
Is it lost on anyone that Apple is not really discounting the prices. They are milking our schools. That is absolutely shameful! They should sell them just above or at cost! Especially since it creates iPad users and benefits their future sales. I like Apple products but dislike their business practices. They are NOT a good citizen. And that is something we should require of all our companies, public and private. Has anyone noted that the cost of ebook textbooks is as high as the printed version. Companies and investors are parasitizing our schools and children while we sit back and watch. Let's just wait and see how much advertising is presented to schoolchildren on these devices.
If we don't demand low pricing for products our schools then we pay that cost through taxes. Those tax dollars are better spent on salaries that attract good teachers. Teachers are some of the most important members of our society and we should recognize that. They are more important than CEOs! (No, I am not a teacher nor do I work in education. And I own two ipads)
The Google Nexus 7/10 are great tables at a much lower cost (as I said, I own an iPad but know value when I see it. If I didn't already have a lot of apps on the iPad, I would switch). I will not be surprised to see there are not some kickbacks happening to those in the LA school system that chose the most expensive solution on the market.
Your misleading accusations are so dumb. Did you ever go to college and get an education on how to manage a school system from an IT perspective or did you just buy your Nexus product based solely on price and specs. Quit insulting the intelligence of those that understand the HUGE value proposition of going with Apple products for the educational market and understand how Apple actually saves schools money with the iPad platform. Jeez, GROW UP.
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
An administrator of another school made a comment that I can still hear today: "It's so nice to see the students engaged, sitting on the edge of their seats -- attentive and participating... rather than leaning back passively".
First, I totally agree with your post.
Maria Montessori proved that children learn through all their senses. An iPad adds dimension to their senses, like any computer. However, children seem to prefer to learn and engage with others in small ad hoc groups on the floor or on the move; ways that the desktop computer couldn't accommodate.
Finally, the Dynabook has arrived!
“When the Mac first came out, Newsweek asked me what I [thought] of it. I said: Well, it’s the first personal computer worth criticizing. So at the end of the presentation, Steve came up to me and said: Is the iPhone worth criticizing? And I said: Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you’ll rule the world.”
- Alan Kay-
Edit: the practical side of.My brain posted the above... "small ad hoc groups on the floor or on the move" is the story here...
And, when it comes to learning, we're all children... That's the beauty...
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
The iPad is much more high profile, prolific, and most certainly gets the attention of educators more so than competing products. At the same time those "other products" do get adopted.
http://www.edtechmagazine.com/k12/article/2013/01/educators-reveal-why-and-how-school-districts-are-adopting-tablets
For real... a Motorola Xoom was deemed the best tablet for their needs? I pretty much stopped reading after that line came up. That alone tells me the teacher and an iHating agenda right then and there.
So she picked the Xoom because of the "easy to use Android" and "low cost".
What's cheaper? Using a Xoom, having it fall apart, and having to go out and buy another tablet, or just buy an iPad and be done with it?
I think the number of units sold answers that (rhetorical) question. iPads OR some other tablet ¡
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Originally Posted by Hydrogen
If you believe education is costly, try ignorance.If you don't work in education then you should.
Well said.
That's an amazing idea. If LA introduced a similar plan they'd save even more money. They could use the iPads for 3 years each and every year offer to sell the iPads to the student who uses it at a somewhat reduced price. I'd bet they'd get a good 10% of students to take the offer; money that could be used when the iPad renewal program comes around. It's simple ideas like this that make all the difference when you consider how high in demand and how value-retaining iPads are.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
Digital books are updated all time -- the publisher just submits a revised book to the digital bookstore -- and the updates are made available to all users of that book...
That's not true for most college-level textbooks. Maybe it ought to be as textbooks become more like software, but just today I had to request a new "desk copy" of an etext that's gone to the 9th edition when I already had the 8th and earlier. That's Pearson -- which is also a big K-12 publisher. Other publishers have done the same in my experience.
Yeah... There may be a few "other things" in play... transition from a physical system to a digital system; resale of used books; politics; litigation; MFN pricing; Stick & Stucco vs Online sales; friction between traditional (institutional) sales channels and direct sales channels; reseller contracts/agreements, below cost sellers attempting to gain market dominance... to name a few!
Or, maybe college-level textbooks are just special!
There are two lasting bequests we can give our children: one is roots, the other is wings.
-Hodding Carter-
Apple Education Apple University Consortium (AUC)
[B][U][SIZE=4]Wheels for the mind [/SIZE][/U][/B]
Jobs once said, "Using a computer is like riding a bicycle. It gets you to and from places with great speed and efficiency; it's like getting wheels for the mind." This simple analogy was quickly appropriate into a slogan and a marketing initiative for the a discount program for Macintosh for Apple University Consortium schools members.
http://www.clementmok.com/career/company.php?offset=20&CoID=2&;
Mmm... Maybe it's time to revise this program to include the iPad...
640k ought to be enough for anyone.
Our local school district rolled out iPad's to our middle school and kids were getting jumped for their iPads. School district had to take all of them back and they could only be used in school.
There's no reason they should be taken home, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Arlor
That's not true for most college-level textbooks. Maybe it ought to be as textbooks become more like software, but just today I had to request a new "desk copy" of an etext that's gone to the 9th edition when I already had the 8th and earlier. That's Pearson -- which is also a big K-12 publisher. Other publishers have done the same in my experience.
I find it amusing how many of you assume that digital text books are going to be regularly updated. Why would the publisher want to do that? If anything, they want to purposely NOT update existing copies, because they want to make everyone buy the new copy. In fact, the publishers are going to do everything in their power to tie their ebooks to a single device. That way when a school replaces an ipad, they will have to replace their ebooks as well. The only way they'll do free updates is if the schools pay a yearly subscription to their ebook service, or if some new quasi-state run epublisher comes about that rewrites the rules on epublishing. The existing publishers have a great deal right now, they can charge insane prices for their (physical) books, then update them to make them "obsolete" (or at least kill the used market/force schools to update all their books because they lost too many copies of their existing ones that are no longer published). Additionally, when books wear out, the schools are forced to pay their inflated prices to buy them again... Like they're really going to give up this money printing machine to help schools switch to ebooks.
As for the theft issue mentioned in another comment... How does keeping them at the school end up solving the textbook problem? At least when I was a kid, we had a thing called homework, which requires... the test book.
Phil
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
There's no reason they should be taken home, anyway.
Uh...homework?
If we don't demand low pricing for products our schools then we pay that cost through taxes. Those tax dollars are better spent on salaries that attract good teachers. Teachers are some of the most important members of our society and we should recognize that. They are more important than CEOs! (No, I am not a teacher nor do I work in education. And I own two ipads)
The Google Nexus 7/10 are great tables at a much lower cost (as I said, I own an iPad but know value when I see it. If I didn't already have a lot of apps on the iPad, I would switch). I will not be surprised to see there are not some kickbacks happening to those in the LA school system that chose the most expensive solution on the market.
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Originally Posted by vnikdo
Is it lost on anyone that Apple is not really discounting the prices. They are milking our schools. That is absolutely shameful! They should sell them just above or at cost! Especially since it creates iPad users and benefits their future sales. I like Apple products but dislike their business practices. They are NOT a good citizen. And that is something we should require of all our companies, public and private. Has anyone noted that the cost of ebook textbooks is as high as the printed version. Companies and investors are parasitizing our schools and children while we sit back and watch. Let's just wait and see how much advertising is presented to schoolchildren on these devices.
If we don't demand low pricing for products our schools then we pay that cost through taxes. Those tax dollars are better spent on salaries that attract good teachers. Teachers are some of the most important members of our society and we should recognize that. They are more important than CEOs! (No, I am not a teacher nor do I work in education. And I own two ipads)
The Google Nexus 7/10 are great tables at a much lower cost (as I said, I own an iPad but know value when I see it. If I didn't already have a lot of apps on the iPad, I would switch). I will not be surprised to see there are not some kickbacks happening to those in the LA school system that chose the most expensive solution on the market.
Why should they sell a product they support just like anyone else at just above cost? They would lose money and companies are not in business to lose money.
Google has to sell their products just above cost because no one would buy them if they charged more money for them. Two, Google is not in the hardware business, that's not their main focus on revenue generation. Thirdly, it is my opinion that Google is merely releasing the Nexus product as to not compete with their OEMs, but to have to give to their internal employees and to make enough product and sell to mostly developers and to break even. If Google were to launch a major marketing/ad campaign and still sell as many as they could, the low margins would bring down their total Net Profits and the stock would take a nose dive due to smaller margins. Essentially, it makes sense to only sell enough to break even so they can basically have free products for their employees.
Now, if you have taken business courses and understood what it takes for a company to be financially successful so you wouldn't have to shut the doors down or have to forced to lose your job as a CEO, or sell your business much like others like IBM, Compaq, AST Research, and others have, the name of the game is making a decent profit margin. Now, what Apple does is they offer the iPad 2, which is a lower cost model that still sells to schools. What the profit margins are on those devices, I don't know. I do know that Samsung raised prices on processors to Apple and maybe the cost of those iPad 2's were affected by increased pricing for those devices. But, Apple has shareholders (Institutional), as well as analysts, as well as customers and they have to make everyone happy as much as they can. But Apple does do a lot for the educational system that doesn't cost ANYTHING. Have you ever heard of iTunes U? It is where K-12 and College Universities can post full length lectures for their students and anyone else interested to download and view FOR FREE. Apple still absorbs the cost of hosting and content delivery, which isn't cheap. I don't see Google, Samsung, Microsoft, or anyone else dedicating that much resources to providing educational enhancements like a place students can access tons of college lectures FOR FREE.
The cost of the hardware is immaterial if there aren't applications available.
The problem YOU have is that you go strictly by price and specs. I have some information for you. Large institutions, corporations do NOT always go by just price and specs. They typically have to go through a selection process to determine what platform offers all of the things they need to make the best decision on the PLATFORM, and then choose the products that best fit their needs as to avoid costly IT management overhead.
Another facet of Apple iPads is the iBook Authoring software, which is free. NOTHING like that software exists on Android or Windows for that matter. These schools and colleges can create their own iBooks and make them available to their students either at a cost or for free. So that's another thing that Nexus DOES NOT have. The other aspect as mentioned before is application written for their particular market not only for the students, but for faculty as well. There are companies that only develop educational software for Apple OS X and iOS devices just like their might be others that develop for Windows, but I can assure you, Android is not high up on the list of supported platform that meets all of the needs of many of these educational markets.
So in the mean time, your spec/price comparison becomes COMPLETELY meaningless, especially when you take into consideration that there is more malware and security issues for the Android platform than any other mobile device platform, which is a HUGE concern of ANYONE that takes IT products seriously, which obviously you don't. The Nexus platform doesn't have Enterprise management software, Samsung is the only one, but the jury is still out as to how good it really is, and quite frankly, a lot of these schools are using OS X computers and Apple makes their iOS devices do things with the OS X desktop/laptops that Android doesn't compete on all levels. Then you have a company that offers products like Apple TV, so the kids and teachers can AirPlay their screens to big screen.
Even Microsoft can't give away their Surface RT product to teachers, since Apple is already entrenched. So, in the mean time, be grateful the Android platform is selling in the first place, but most consumers don't know how to evaluate a platform if they just look at price and specs.
Try factoring the cost of a malware attack on an flock of Nexus devices. Those attacks if become widespread within a company or school can cost thousands, tens of thousands, even millions. They would rather have piece of mind rather than take the risk of security and malware issues that plague the Android platform. Get your head out of your self, The Educational market chooses Apple products and they have a LONG standing relationship with Apple that goes back to the early 80's before Google existed.
The other things that Apple supplies is factored in which saves LOTS of money elsewhere.
Have a nice day.
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Originally Posted by vnikdo
Is it lost on anyone that Apple is not really discounting the prices. They are milking our schools. That is absolutely shameful! They should sell them just above or at cost! Especially since it creates iPad users and benefits their future sales. I like Apple products but dislike their business practices. They are NOT a good citizen. And that is something we should require of all our companies, public and private. Has anyone noted that the cost of ebook textbooks is as high as the printed version. Companies and investors are parasitizing our schools and children while we sit back and watch. Let's just wait and see how much advertising is presented to schoolchildren on these devices.
If we don't demand low pricing for products our schools then we pay that cost through taxes. Those tax dollars are better spent on salaries that attract good teachers. Teachers are some of the most important members of our society and we should recognize that. They are more important than CEOs! (No, I am not a teacher nor do I work in education. And I own two ipads)
The Google Nexus 7/10 are great tables at a much lower cost (as I said, I own an iPad but know value when I see it. If I didn't already have a lot of apps on the iPad, I would switch). I will not be surprised to see there are not some kickbacks happening to those in the LA school system that chose the most expensive solution on the market.
Your misleading accusations are so dumb. Did you ever go to college and get an education on how to manage a school system from an IT perspective or did you just buy your Nexus product based solely on price and specs. Quit insulting the intelligence of those that understand the HUGE value proposition of going with Apple products for the educational market and understand how Apple actually saves schools money with the iPad platform. Jeez, GROW UP.