Samsung may be the best followers in tech. Sure it may not be ethical to blatantly copy a companies every move, but they are making profits. The court's move way to slow to stop them and the patent system is a joke.
If you can't afford Apple, Samesung will probably make a decent knock off product and eventually they will try to incorporate Apple's features as well.
I think I have read from AI that Samsung R&D use iPhones instead of Androids.
Passbook doesn't use NFC and why hasn't Sammy released its "passbook" with its first iPhone clone?
Possibly because Visa, their ilk and the merchant infrastructure weren't ready?, I don't know, but Samsung were working with Visa on this in 2011 or earlier so it is a bit rich claiming wallet is a clone of Passbook when the evidence is clear Samsung have been on this road a lot longer than Apple.
Samsung and Visa join forces to enable NFC mobile payment at 2012 Olympics
By Richard Lai posted Apr 1st, 2011
Possibly because Visa, their ilk and the merchant infrastructure weren't ready?, I don't know, but Samsung were working with Visa on this in 2011 or earlier so it is a bit rich claiming wallet is a clone of Passbook when the evidence is clear Samsung have been on this road a lot longer than Apple.
Samsung and Visa join forces to enable NFC mobile payment at 2012 Olympics
By Richard Lai posted Apr 1st, 2011
You may be right. But Samsung engineers probably don't know how to put it in an app until they saw Apple's Passbook.
Just another reason Samsung stinks. This is why I vowed never to buy a Samsung product again. Samsung is crazy for copying apple. I wish Apple was able to do something. Hopefully soon, we can move this company back to it's hometurf of South Korea and maybe eliminate it from North America. You big copycats... Come up with your own stinken ideas! Apple's already made half the things you have. iOS rules, Samsung and Android are a piece of junk. I hope iOS blows you all clean out of the water. I also hope apple sues you for everything you got Samsung.
Sheesh the state of Google play is funny.
You ll find apps on there that isn't compatible with your handset even if it's the latest and greatest flagship HTC phone, coz it's made to run on Samsung phones. So eventually you'll end up seeing 25 different passbook apps from every other vendor.
Not much different than carrier specific apps for iOS. Many people can't even install it as per the reviews.
Wow!!! Copy cats!! Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Lol. Not in business though.
Now I have more stuff to throw at when I talk about smart with two of my android loving friends. They can't afford an iPhone and the screen is too small. Lol.
Of course not, they can develop their own complete phone OS - Bada - but they couldn't make an app. Makes sense.
Because this is why this app works just like Passbook. If Passbook is the only way a software can do and Samsung has worked on it even longer than iPhone, why Samsung engineers can not finish it before the Passbook last year?
I ran into one fellow that had a Droid and he was showing me that face recognition to replace a password log in. he said it didn't work when he grew a beard. It was funny or if he shaved his beard. Plus it takes a while to recognize.
Plus how come the anti-fingerprint-reader trolls never say, "Now when thieves steal your phone they'll cut off your face!!!"? /s
What's to patent? The prior art is legion. Anyone would think Apple has invented something new here. Japan has had NFC electronic payments via phone for nearly a decade.
Samsung have been at this a lot longer than Apple:
That's only 8 years before Apple came up with Passbook.
So who's the copycat?
You can't be that dense. We're not talking about the GENERIC concept of mobile payments. We're talking about Samsung making their App LOOK LIKE Apple's passbook App instead of coming up with their own design.
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Of course not, they can develop their own complete phone OS - Bada - but they couldn't make an app. Makes sense.
They can develop their own OS but they can't even design a few icons? Not just for Passbook but for the original Galaxy S (which totally ripped several icons from iOS).
Sheesh the state of Google play is funny.
You ll find apps on there that isn't compatible with your handset even if it's the latest and greatest flagship HTC phone, coz it's made to run on Samsung phones. So eventually you'll end up seeing 25 different passbook apps from every other vendor.
I wonder why they bothered putting it in Google play store if it's only meant for galaxy series.
Might aswell have bundled it with an OS upgrade.
The reason they did it this way is free advertising to induce Google Play user with competitive phones to but Smarmy phones... "Gee, Smarmy does a better rip-off of iPhone apps than whoever..."
You may be right. But Samsung engineers probably don't know how to put it in an app until they saw Apple's Passbook.
More like Apple put a spotlight on an old idea.
Digital wallets and pass books have been around for years. Naturally, their icons often look similar, since they're supposed to be like a pocket or wallet.
Possibly because Visa, their ilk and the merchant infrastructure weren't ready?, I don't know, but Samsung were working with Visa on this in 2011 or earlier so it is a bit rich claiming wallet is a clone of Passbook when the evidence is clear Samsung have been on this road a lot longer than Apple.
Samsung and Visa join forces to enable NFC mobile payment at 2012 Olympics
By Richard Lai posted Apr 1st, 2011
oh my GOD enough with this bull*** narrative!!!
No-one is saying or even remotely implying that the CONCEPT of "mobile payments" are an original Apple idea enshrined for the first time ever in Passbook. NO. ONE.
We ARE saying that the method and application as APPLIED BY APPLE in its own unique way (and you cannot deny its approach on both the front and backends are in many ways novel) has been COPIED pretty much whole cloth.
But more to the point, and most specifically, we are talking about the CLONED USER INTERFACE. The most prevalent aspect of this "Samsung Clones Again" message.
Look at the application interfaces side by side. You cannot DENY that Samsung is copying the LOOK AND FEEL of Apple's design yet again. It was all over the news when it first surfaced.
That's the point. AGAIN: No-one is claiming that Apple invented the concept of the "mobile payment" here. We are saying Samsung copied the PASSBOOK app. How it behaves, the UI and UX, the overall look and feel.
Honestly, I've not yet found a use case for Passbook. In fact, in cases involving ID or money, I tend to keep it analog.
It has worked great for concert tickets and boarding passes
I just got back from vacation and a good percentage of the passengers were scanning their iphone's passbook app instead of having a paper boarding pass
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Can't Apple just certify Samsung as an "official" rip-off? Maybe even start an ad campaign based on that.
Passbook doesn't use NFC and why hasn't Sammy released its "passbook" with its first iPhone clone?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Phil
Samsung may be the best followers in tech. Sure it may not be ethical to blatantly copy a companies every move, but they are making profits. The court's move way to slow to stop them and the patent system is a joke.
If you can't afford Apple, Samesung will probably make a decent knock off product and eventually they will try to incorporate Apple's features as well.
I think I have read from AI that Samsung R&D use iPhones instead of Androids.
Possibly because Visa, their ilk and the merchant infrastructure weren't ready?, I don't know, but Samsung were working with Visa on this in 2011 or earlier so it is a bit rich claiming wallet is a clone of Passbook when the evidence is clear Samsung have been on this road a lot longer than Apple.
Samsung and Visa join forces to enable NFC mobile payment at 2012 Olympics
By Richard Lai posted Apr 1st, 2011
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
Possibly because Visa, their ilk and the merchant infrastructure weren't ready?, I don't know, but Samsung were working with Visa on this in 2011 or earlier so it is a bit rich claiming wallet is a clone of Passbook when the evidence is clear Samsung have been on this road a lot longer than Apple.
Samsung and Visa join forces to enable NFC mobile payment at 2012 Olympics
By Richard Lai posted Apr 1st, 2011
You may be right. But Samsung engineers probably don't know how to put it in an app until they saw Apple's Passbook.
Of course not, they can develop their own complete phone OS - Bada - but they couldn't make an app. Makes sense.
And that's why Sammy is using Android. Wait a minute. Sammy can make an app but needs Apple to show them how to make it correctly.
Not much different than carrier specific apps for iOS. Many people can't even install it as per the reviews.
Now I have more stuff to throw at when I talk about smart with two of my android loving friends. They can't afford an iPhone and the screen is too small. Lol.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
Of course not, they can develop their own complete phone OS - Bada - but they couldn't make an app. Makes sense.
Because this is why this app works just like Passbook. If Passbook is the only way a software can do and Samsung has worked on it even longer than iPhone, why Samsung engineers can not finish it before the Passbook last year?
I'm surprised they don't rename the company 'Gala', 'Fuji' or 'Granny Smith'!
Or 'Ah-pull'
Plus how come the anti-fingerprint-reader trolls never say, "Now when thieves steal your phone they'll cut off your face!!!"? /s
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
What's to patent? The prior art is legion. Anyone would think Apple has invented something new here. Japan has had NFC electronic payments via phone for nearly a decade.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/phones/2004-07-22-wallet-phone_x.htm
That's 2004 people.
Samsung have been at this a lot longer than Apple:
That's only 8 years before Apple came up with Passbook.
So who's the copycat?
You can't be that dense. We're not talking about the GENERIC concept of mobile payments. We're talking about Samsung making their App LOOK LIKE Apple's passbook App instead of coming up with their own design.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
Of course not, they can develop their own complete phone OS - Bada - but they couldn't make an app. Makes sense.
They can develop their own OS but they can't even design a few icons? Not just for Passbook but for the original Galaxy S (which totally ripped several icons from iOS).
The reason they did it this way is free advertising to induce Google Play user with competitive phones to but Smarmy phones... "Gee, Smarmy does a better rip-off of iPhone apps than whoever..."
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Originally Posted by tzeshan
You may be right. But Samsung engineers probably don't know how to put it in an app until they saw Apple's Passbook.
More like Apple put a spotlight on an old idea.
Digital wallets and pass books have been around for years. Naturally, their icons often look similar, since they're supposed to be like a pocket or wallet.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
Possibly because Visa, their ilk and the merchant infrastructure weren't ready?, I don't know, but Samsung were working with Visa on this in 2011 or earlier so it is a bit rich claiming wallet is a clone of Passbook when the evidence is clear Samsung have been on this road a lot longer than Apple.
Samsung and Visa join forces to enable NFC mobile payment at 2012 Olympics
By Richard Lai posted Apr 1st, 2011
oh my GOD enough with this bull*** narrative!!!
No-one is saying or even remotely implying that the CONCEPT of "mobile payments" are an original Apple idea enshrined for the first time ever in Passbook. NO. ONE.
We ARE saying that the method and application as APPLIED BY APPLE in its own unique way (and you cannot deny its approach on both the front and backends are in many ways novel) has been COPIED pretty much whole cloth.
But more to the point, and most specifically, we are talking about the CLONED USER INTERFACE. The most prevalent aspect of this "Samsung Clones Again" message.
Look at the application interfaces side by side. You cannot DENY that Samsung is copying the LOOK AND FEEL of Apple's design yet again. It was all over the news when it first surfaced.
That's the point. AGAIN: No-one is claiming that Apple invented the concept of the "mobile payment" here. We are saying Samsung copied the PASSBOOK app. How it behaves, the UI and UX, the overall look and feel.
Use your eyes. What part of that do you not get?
Honestly, I've not yet found a use case for Passbook. In fact, in cases involving ID or money, I tend to keep it analog.
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Honestly, I've not yet found a use case for Passbook. In fact, in cases involving ID or money, I tend to keep it analog.
It has worked great for concert tickets and boarding passes
I just got back from vacation and a good percentage of the passengers were scanning their iphone's passbook app instead of having a paper boarding pass