Samsung clone of Apple's Passbook hits Google Play for some Galaxy devices

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  • Reply 61 of 97
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    I have cellular on all my iPads so I haven't taken any time to consider all the possible issues of not having GPS but I see your point in that case. Do you have an iPhone 5? It has a much better camera than the iPad.





    I use an iPhone 5.  I think the camera is not much better than the ipad 4 camera.  However, the camera app Apple provided on iPad is also worse than the one on iPhone. 

  • Reply 62 of 97
    droidftw wrote: »
    I read about that too.  You know DED will be writing a piece about it.  He, and many of the people here, live for that type of story.

    LOL. Probably.
    I've posted news before and it always goes into a black hole. Usually they ignore it.
  • Reply 63 of 97
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,212member

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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    Does you carrier charge extra for tethering? If so is the cost more or less than the minimum iPad data plan?


     


    I bought an AT&T LTE wifi hot spot which is $50 a month for 5GB with $10/GB overage and no throttling. I use this just for my MBP when I'm at my vacation home which has no Internet or TV, just 4G, no LTE.



    AT&T charges $20/month extra for iPhone tethering plan but the option extends the data plan by 2 GB to make a total of 5 GB per month (plus $10/GB overage). This is much cheaper than paying an extra $50/month to support a hotspot, not to mention avoiding the extra hardware cost and weight. Furthermore, if you receive an AT&T FAN discount, the tethering data plan may be discounted to where it costs only $8/month more or just over a quarter of a dollar per day (plus taxes and fees :-).

  • Reply 64 of 97
    patpatpatpatpatpat Posts: 629member
    mstone wrote: »
    Does you carrier charge extra for tethering? If so is the cost more or less than the minimum iPad data plan?

    I bought an AT&T LTE wifi hot spot which is $50 a month for 5GB with $10/GB overage and no throttling. I use this just for my MBP when I'm at my vacation home which has no Internet or TV, just 4G, no LTE.
    No, I tether through my personal nexus 4 phone for free. I keep my corporate iphone for strictly work stuff.
  • Reply 65 of 97
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,212member

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    Originally Posted by patpatpat View Post





    No, I tether through my personal nexus 4 phone for free. I keep my corporate iphone for strictly work stuff.


    Smart choice: iPhone for security.

  • Reply 66 of 97
    patpatpatpatpatpat Posts: 629member
    cpsro wrote: »
    Smart choice: iPhone for security.

    It's my company and my policy. :-)
  • Reply 67 of 97

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    Originally Posted by tzeshan View Post


    Bloomberg reported this morning that


    “Apple spent five years and $5 billion to develop a product and it was a revolutionary product,” said Apple lawyer William Lee of WilmerHale in Boston. “Samsung said, ‘We can copy it easily.’ They spent three months to bring a product to market.”



     


    Bloomberg has a few nice quotes from Apple/Samsung legal arguments going on today:


     


    “If it’s so easy to design around and you’re not selling these, why is it any harm?” asked Circuit Judge Kathleen O’Malley.


     


    or


     


    “The owner of a trivial patent has no reasonable expectation of more than trivial compensation" from Google. The hypocrisy in that statement is unbelievable.


     


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post


     


    I read about that too.  You know DED will be writing a piece about it.  He, and many of the people here, live for that type of story.



     


    Don't need to. We all know the Nexus 7's are junk. The previous one had terrible quality - why should anyone think any differently of the new one?

  • Reply 68 of 97
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Yup, being reported today. The typical "we're aware of the issue and working on a solution" that the other tech's fall back on of course. At least Google isn't denying the problem tho so perhaps a fix is in the works for those having the problem.

    Ha. Now will the update go through the carriers or directly by Google?
  • Reply 69 of 97
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,388member
    jungmark wrote: »
    Ha. Now will the update go through the carriers or directly by Google?

    The Nexus 7 gets direct updates AFAIK. A lot of Nexus 7's don't have cell service to begin with.
  • Reply 70 of 97
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jungmark wrote: »
    Ha. Now will the update go through the carriers or directly by Google?

    Google updates the Nexus devices directly except the phones on Verizon and Sprint.
  • Reply 71 of 97
    pujones1pujones1 Posts: 222member

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    Originally Posted by tribalogical View Post


     


    oh my GOD enough with this bull*** narrative!!!


     


    No-one is saying or even remotely implying that the CONCEPT of "mobile payments" are an original Apple idea enshrined for the first time ever in Passbook. NO. ONE.


     


    We ARE saying that the method and application as APPLIED BY APPLE in its own unique way (and you cannot deny its approach on both the front and backends are in many ways novel) has been COPIED pretty much whole cloth.


     


    But more to the point, and most specifically, we are talking about the CLONED USER INTERFACE. The most prevalent aspect of this "Samsung Clones Again" message.


     


    Look at the application interfaces side by side. You cannot DENY that Samsung is copying the LOOK AND FEEL of Apple's design yet again. It was all over the news when it first surfaced.


     


    That's the point.  AGAIN: No-one is claiming that Apple invented the concept of the "mobile payment" here. We are saying Samsung copied the PASSBOOK app. How it behaves, the UI and UX, the overall look and feel.


     


    Use your eyes. What part of that do you not get?



    YOU ARE THE MAN!!! 


     


    That's exactly the point of this.

  • Reply 72 of 97

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    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    Or 'Ah-pull'


     


    in Asia, that would be Ah-purr.


     


    Velly velly crevel, Ahperr engineels!!!

  • Reply 73 of 97
    Well 11 months after release Samsung releases copy.

    I just note that on play store you have to have certain devices for certain features like this, in apple it is and always will be one app for all.
  • Reply 74 of 97
    droidftwdroidftw Posts: 1,009member

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    Originally Posted by Curtis Hannah View Post



    Well 11 months after release Samsung releases copy.



    I just note that on play store you have to have certain devices for certain features like this, in apple it is and always will be one app for all.


     


    All iOS apps work across all versions of iOS and all versions of iPhones, and iPads?

  • Reply 75 of 97
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Well 11 months after release Samsung releases copy.

    I just note that on play store you have to have certain devices for certain features like this, in apple it is and always will be one app for all.

    Aren't there carrier specific apps that not everyone can use?
  • Reply 76 of 97
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    droidftw wrote: »
    All iOS apps work across all versions of iOS and all versions of iPhones, and iPads?
    all iPhone apps will work on the iPad. The vast majority of iPhone users are in iOS 5 or 6. The vast majority of apps work on 5 and/or 6.

    If you bought an idevice within the past year or two, the apps will run. Can't say the same for android.
  • Reply 77 of 97
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jungmark wrote: »
    all iPhone apps will work on the iPad. The vast majority of iPhone users are in iOS 5 or 6. The vast majority of apps work on 5 and/or 6.

    If you bought an idevice within the past year or two, the apps will run. Can't say the same for android.

    So is it all or the vast majority? Pretty soon my 4th gen iPod Touch that I bought late last year won't be able to run at least 50% of the apps because it won't get iOS 7 and 50% of developers are going to require iOS 7.
  • Reply 78 of 97
    kdarlingkdarling Posts: 1,640member

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    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post



    all iPhone apps will work on the iPad. The vast majority of iPhone users are in iOS 5 or 6. The vast majority of apps work on 5 and/or 6.


     


    There's a lot of us who cannot use newer apps, because we're stuck on lower versions.  For example, 85% of all iPod touches ever sold cannot update to iOS 7.


     


    And/or Apple deliberately leaves out something.  40% of all iOS devices ever sold, and 100% of all iPhone 4 and below cannot use Siri, even though they could before Apple bought it.  They're also left out of Airdrop and panoramic photos.


     


    Personally, I find that my iPad 1 comes up with "iOS6 is required" when trying to download an app, just as much, if not more than, I find similar problems getting an app for my two and three year old Android tablets.


     


    In the end, the important thing is whether or not a device can do what you want, not what numerical version they're on.  


     


    (percentages as of June, the last time I checked)

  • Reply 79 of 97
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    kdarling wrote: »
    jungmark wrote: »
    all iPhone apps will work on the iPad. The vast majority of iPhone users are in iOS 5 or 6. The vast majority of apps work on 5 and/or 6.

    <span style="line-height:1.231;">There's a lot of us who cannot use newer apps, because we're stuck on lower versions.  </span>
    <span style="line-height:1.231;">For example, </span>
    <span style="line-height:1.231;">85% of all iPod touches ever sold cannot update to iOS 7.</span>

     
    <span style="line-height:1.231;">And/or Apple deliberately leaves out something.  </span>
    <span style="line-height:1.231;">40% of all iOS devices ever sold, and 100% of all iPhone 4 and below cannot use Siri, even though they could before Apple bought it.  They're also left out of Airdrop and panoramic photos.</span>


    Personally, I find that my iPad 1 comes up with "iOS6 is required" when trying to download an app, just as much, if not more than, I find similar problems getting an app for my two and three year old Android tablets.

    <span style="line-height:1.231;">In the end, the important thing is whether or not a device can do what you want, not what numerical version they're on.  </span>


    [SIZE=11px]<span style="line-height:1.231;">(percentages as of June, the last time I checked)</span>
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    Wouldn't you agree that software needs to evolve, instead of keeping on supporting legacy hardware? That's actually what got MS into trouble, redesigning Windows with each version but never taking a bold move and leave behind older hardware. Their Registry comes to mind.

    Personally I think that with each software update people should update their hardware as well; when you bought the hardware it came with software which was designed specifically for that device. Some people expect they can use their hardware for the years to come, to which I agree. But don't expect after installing a major software update that the hardware will simply 'continue to keep up'.
  • Reply 80 of 97
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    philboogie wrote: »
    Personally I think that with each software update people should update their hardware as well; when you bought the hardware it came with software which was designed specifically for that device. Some people expect they can use their hardware for the years to come, to which I agree. But don't expect after installing a major software update that the hardware will simply 'continue to keep up'.

    So you think people should buy a new iPhone and iPad every year? Do you think it's kind of contradictory to make a device that's built to last but then turn around and stop supporting that very device a year or two later?
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