'iPhone 5C' expected to replace iPhone 5, while Apple's iPhone 4S will live on

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  • Reply 21 of 110
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



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    Rendering of "iPhone 5C" based on reportedly leaked schematics.

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    This rendering is wrong, or at least not really based on the leaks we've seen.  


     


    As nice as it looks, it shows metal buttons when the leaks have said they would be plastic, and the black model doesn't exist at all (according to leaks) although it's absence is puzzling considering the poor selection of colours that has leaked.  

  • Reply 22 of 110
    allenbfallenbf Posts: 993member
    9 to 5 Mac says the 4s will continue "until the end of 2013 per Kuo."

    That's a pretty big difference but not sure what it means...
  • Reply 23 of 110
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    tundraboy wrote: »
    A plastic-bodied phone will be more expensive than a metal-bodied one? This makes no senseat all.

    A case alone doth not an iPhone make.

    The case is only a small fraction of the cost of making a phone - a couple dollars AT MOST. The cost is determined by all the other components. Furthermore, some plastic cases might cost more than some metal cases. So, yes, a phone with a high quality plastic case and top end components would cost more than a phone with a cheap, stamped metal case and low end components.

    And, of course, the selling price is more dependent on the market positioning than the manufacturing cost, anyway. I've had several products where our high priced premium product was actually less expensive to produce than the low-end, generic product. There are lots of reasons why you might charge a premium price for a product that's cheap to make - or vice versa.
  • Reply 24 of 110

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tundraboy View Post



    A plastic-bodied phone will be more expensive than a metal-bodied one? This makes no senseat all.


    4S is mostly glass with a metal frame/antenna

  • Reply 25 of 110
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member

    Originally Posted by tundraboy View Post


    A plastic-bodied phone will be more expensive than a metal-bodied one? This makes no senseat all.


     


    Why, when it's newer hardware?

  • Reply 26 of 110
    This makes perfect sense.
    Ever since the introduction of the fourth generation iPad I had a very strong suspicion that iPhone 5 would have a similar life cycle to the third generation iPad.
    The reason is the same: cost.

    Just like Apple could not afford to sell a Retina iPad for $400, they cannot afford to sell an aluminium iPhone for $550.
    So just like they kept iPad 2 at $400 it makes sense to keep iPhone 4S and push it down to $450.
    If the rumours of iPhone 5C coming with an A6 chip are true then the iPhone lineup makes perfect sense and keeps, price, features and desirability in strict order.

    It may not make sense to you because it means you won't be getting the great iPhone deal you were hoping to get, but it sure makes sense to Apple.
    To everyone that claims Apple sees selling products with the old connector as a problem: LOL, Apple is nowhere near as OCD as you are.
  • Reply 27 of 110
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,303member
    sog35 wrote: »
    great find.

    just proves that Samsung gets alot of their sales from people who get fooled by their commericals (first time smartphone buyers)
    That of course assumes that the analytics are correct. Many here have a stated distrust of surveys and analysts.
  • Reply 28 of 110
    ksecksec Posts: 1,568member


    This would make sense ONLY if iPhone 6 is coming out much sooner then we think. Assuming October be this cycle Shipping date. And they push the next cycle to May/June or even April / May. Which means the Top Model 5S becomes the Middle Model and 5C becomes the entry point.

  • Reply 29 of 110
    jnjnjnjnjnjn Posts: 588member
    The 4S isn't cheap to produce because of it shell.
    This rumor is very unlikely.
  • Reply 30 of 110
    His pricing scheme makes no sense. If the 5S is $649 off contract, then the 5C will be $549 and the 4S $449
  • Reply 31 of 110
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member

    Originally Posted by windwalker View Post


    Just like Apple could not afford to sell a Retina iPad for $400…


     


    They didn't sell the regular one for $400, nor have they tried to sell the retina for $400. How do you know they "can't"?






    they cannot afford to sell an aluminium iPhone for $550.



     


    Again, how do you think you know this? It's obviously wrong, as they've done it for a few years now.





    To everyone that claims Apple sees selling products with the old connector as a problem: LOL, Apple is nowhere near as OCD as you are.


     


    Steve Jobs was. Strange that you've forgotten in only two years.

  • Reply 32 of 110
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    Who says they're getting the 4S, anyway? They don't have it now and everyone else does.



    Uh, they sell the 4, 4S, and iPhone 5 in China.  I believe AI even posts when they go on sale here.

  • Reply 33 of 110
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member

    Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post


    Uh, they sell the 4, 4S, and iPhone 5 in China.


     


    China Mobile does? That was his point.

  • Reply 34 of 110
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    jnjnjn wrote: »
    The 4S isn't cheap to produce because of it shell.
    This rumor is very unlikely.

    The cost of the shell is peanuts compared to the total cost of the phone. If everything else in the 4S is cheap (and it would be since it's 2 year old technology), then the phone would be cheap, even if the case costs a dollar or two more than the 5C.
  • Reply 35 of 110
    herbapouherbapou Posts: 2,227member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikilok View Post





    And more importantly they wouldn't keep 4S coz developers then need to cater apps for the 3.5" screen aswell as the 4" one.

    Makes no sense.



    There offering should be



    5S - High End

    5 - Mid range

    5C - Low end



    Or prolly shuffle between 5 and 5C for mid / low.


     


    iphone 5 is not mid range even with lower prices, still too expensive.   The problem with American here is all they see are subsidize prices, look at the retail price. Anything above $500 is high end in rich countries.


     


    I dont like them keeping the 4s around unless they really lower the price on it, something like $300 to $350. I dont mind them keeping a 3.5" screen if they change the plug and put it in a single color plastic shell and price it at $300. Then they would have an emerging market phone.

  • Reply 36 of 110
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,883member
    That's stupid. If anything, it'll replace the 4S or be an off contract iPhone (below the 4S).
  • Reply 37 of 110
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    Why? They haven't changed the iPod classic in five years. The 4S can serve for those who think the Dock Connector is super neat-o keen and/or don't want to buy new speakers.


     


    I don't like the idea of keeping the 4S around, but at least it can be justified.



     


    No it can't. This report is wrong, or at least out of context.


     


    The 5 will simply stop production sooner than the 4S will, because of the complexity of distribution channels. There are some low-priority outlets worldwide that simply will not be able to get iPhone 5C immediately due to inventory constraints. These outlets all carry the 4S, and will need to carry it through the end of year.


     


    Imagine Apple stops shipping these smaller outlets 4S inventory, but does not yet ship them 5C to replace it because they don't have enough.


     


    People, including bloggers for every Apple website, seem to not understand business in the least.

  • Reply 38 of 110
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member


    I can't take it. I really can't stand reading how so many of you take an article, believe it to be the TRUTH, and then start shaping reality (and common sense for that matter) to fit it.


     


    When something doesn't fit, throw it out. The 4S will not be produced beyond 2013. You might be able to buy it in a mini mall in Wyoming until December, but that does not have any significance other than filling out inventory channels so that outlets don't dry up amidst the big change that's coming.


     


    As for Apple stores and most carrier stores....you will not be able to purchase an iPhone other than 5S or 5C beyond the September 22nd launch date.

  • Reply 39 of 110
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member

    Originally Posted by pmz View Post


    I can't take it. I really can't stand reading how so many of you take an article, believe it to be the TRUTH, and then start shaping reality (and common sense for that matter) to fit it.


     


    Totally agreed.





    As for Apple stores and most carrier stores....you will not be able to purchase an iPhone other than 5S or 5C beyond the September 22nd launch date.



     


    And then you go and do this, leaving me wondering.

  • Reply 40 of 110
    They didn't sell the regular one for $400, nor have they tried to sell the retina for $400. How do you know they "can't"?

    What are you talking about? What is "the regular one"?
    What are you trying to say with Apple "not trying" to sell a Retina iPad for $400?
    They simply didn't. It's pointless to argue about why.
    Again, how do you think you know this? It's obviously wrong, as they've done it for a few years now.

    Yes, with plastic and with glass iPhones, but not aluminium ones.
    Steve Jobs was. Strange that you've forgotten in only two years.
    Not about old products he wasn't.
    He didn't lose any sleep about low end customers buying older and slightly outdated products at a discount from their introductory price and neither should anyone else.
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