Bug in iOS 7 allows calls to be placed from locked iPhone

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  • Reply 121 of 130
    Originally Posted by Durandal1707 View Post
    It doesn't, because 911 isn't a one-touch operation. The odds that you will accidentally press the 9, 1, 1, keys and then the dial button in that succession by accident in your pocket are much lower than the odds that you'll accidentally hit a single button. If it were one-touch, it would happen all the friggin' time. If you haven't ever had the "emergency dial" button get pressed while in your pocket, so that when you pull your phone out it's at the emergency dialpad, my only guess is that you must not use the lock screen.

     

    That explains, of course, why pocket dialing happens “all the friggin’ time” with all other numbers on your iPhone, I guess.

     

    It’s Apple’s biggest bug, in fact, since it’s so endemic.

  • Reply 122 of 130
    I don't know about you. Accidentally pocket-dialing people in my contact list was the main reason I turned on the lock screen on my phone.

    It's not a bug, either. It's just a consequence of having a touch-screen on the outside of the phone, rather than hidden inside something like the keypad used to be with the flip/slider phones.

    edit: Oh look, emergency services are even mentioned on the Wikipedia page for pocket dialing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_dialing#Accidental_calling_of_emergency_services
  • Reply 123 of 130
    rcfarcfa Posts: 1,124member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     
    Originally Posted by rcfa View Post

    First you were complaining that Apple doesn’t have a single button


     

    Yep.


     

    Which would be nice and simple, if it were practical.


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    …now you morph your argument to complain that it’s not multiple buttons…

     

    Yep, because once informed that separate top-level services are the norm elsewhere, it only makes sense to modify one’s personal wish to fit that bill.



     

     

    Which loses the whole point of simplicity, which defeats the point of not having the keypad, and which doesn't work for a variety of reasons mentioned elsewhere and below.

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    (probably with some sort of culture invariant icon to symbolize police, medical, etc. emergencies, which would already fail, because different cultures have different expectations, and people travel, so someone who associates the Red Cresent with medical may well be in Switzerland where it’s the Red Cross, etc.) 

     

    Because that’s the only possible design one could come up with, of course.



     

    No, one could also use text, which won't work, either, see below...

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    What is WRONG with you people? I cannot possibly be the only human being in this THREAD, much less overall, who can actually come up with intelligent answers to this problem. You Cubans (once again, referring to that joke) have one thought, immediately, with no actual research done to it, and instantaneously dismiss it as bad. No wonder everything you think is wrong!





    What's "wrong" with people is simple: they notice how you shoot down everyone with a vengeance who doesn't agree in all minor points with your self-proclaimed Apple Fandom Spokesperson mentality, but then you expect to be treated with velvet gloves when you produce a major brain fart. Thanks to your general behavior here, people enjoy the field day and jump on you for a change. 


     




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    People with smartphones tend to be literate. The buttons would have words on them. It’s literally this simple to comprehend.


     






    Yes. But owners of a device don't need the emergency calling screen, they just unlock the phone and dial like usual.


    The point of that screen is that ANYONE, even if otherwise unauthorized to use the phone, can place an emergency call.


    So now you find that diabetic Chinese tourist collapsed on the street, pull out his phone, because yours isn't on you, or is out of battery, or crashed because you unsuccessfully tried to jail-break it, go to the emergency calling screen, and all you see is a bunch of Han Glyphs. Now try to make the proper call.


    On the other hand, I don't think you're going to have an issue recognizing a regular phone dial pad.


     



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    …it works in all sorts of boundary cases (literally!) like when traveling near international borders when you may fade in and out of cross-border cellular service.


     

    And it’s even more astonishing that you can parse situations like this without also thinking of the ludicrously obvious solution to this problem: EVERY IPHONE HAS GPS IN IT, WHICH TRIANGULATES TO WITHIN A FEW METERS. So even if you’re a refugee literally in the process of hopping over the Iron Curtain* and you’ve tripped and broken your ankle, the smartphone you’ve been sent back in time with will know where you are and just FIND the nearest service to call.

     

    *Don’t you dare claim that I think the Iron Curtain was an actual wall. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />



     

    No it doesn't because many people for good reason have Location Services TURNED OFF, but that doesn't mean emergencies don't happen in that case.

     

     


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    Originally Posted by Durandal1707 View Post

    …perhaps 911 doesn’t appreciate being pocket dialed?

     

    And this happens when? If it’s possible with my solution, it’s possible with yours.



     

    But the probability is much, much lower, which means the rate of incidents are many, many fewer.

     

     

     

     


  • Reply 124 of 130
    lets not forget you could always make a phone call by saying a number to Siri...bypassing the passcode lock...

    ***edit, already stated earlier....helps to refresh a post before commenting..***
  • Reply 125 of 130
    Sorry if this has been dealt with already - been busy since starting this reply, and then had to watch our team get beaten again in the Americas cup....

    Yep, because once informed that separate top-level services are the norm elsewhere, it only makes sense to modify one’s personal wish to fit that bill.

    And therein lies the problem. People were replying to an article about a key pad bug, and all of a sudden some guy is insulting them because they can't follow the tangent he's gone off on.

    I can easily imagine your replies to someone else who's hijacked a thread with their "own personal wish list", and thinks they know better than Apple.

    Most of this could've been avoided with a bit of an explanation of what you were wanting to discuss. Insulting the crew doesn't come off very professionally, and seems to have ended up with more than one questioning your mental health...
    Because that’s the only possible design one could come up with, of course.

    What is WRONG with you people?


    Can't we all just get along? It doesn't look like you're making any new friends or gaining respect here.

    I cannot possibly be the only human being in this THREAD, much less overall, who can actually come up with intelligent answers to this problem.

    What problem? Your problem? Does it not work?

    Your button idea may work, I can see why you're thinking it would be helpful, maybe even in context of removing the keypad so the bug this article was about wouldn't work.

    But... there's been plenty of intelligent and thought out responses that make the idea seem unlikely.

    Might be time to apologise for your barbs and move on?
    You Cubans (once again, referring to that joke) have one thought, immediately, with no actual research done to it, and instantaneously dismiss it as bad. No wonder everything you think is wrong!

    I see often here people demand research and proof to back up any comment that is disagreed with. For a forum that hardly has anyone (maybe except me of course) using their real name that's a bit much to ask.
    People with smartphones tend to be literate. The buttons would have words on them. It’s literally this simple to comprehend.

    Do you have a smart phone?

    I've been reading here since 2010.

    I've read previous threads you've been part of.

    I'm aware you use a 1st or 2nd gen iPhone as an iPod touch equivalent. Most here seem to assume you have a working iPhone.



    Hope I haven't offended you here. That's not my intention. You've started an argument in such a public place though.
  • Reply 126 of 130
    I really don't see the issue? Per the iPhone user guide: Emergency calls
    Make an emergency call when iPhone is locked. On the Enter Passcode screen, tap Emergency Call (to dial 911 in the U.S., for example).
    Important: You can use iPhone to make an emergency call in many locations, provided that cellular service is available, but you should not rely on it for emergencies. Some cellular networks may not accept an emergency call from iPhone if iPhone is not activated, if iPhone is not compatible with or configured to operate on a particular cellular network, or (when applicable) if iPhone does not have a SIM card or if the SIM card is PIN-locked. In the U.S., location information (if available) is provided to emergency service providers when you dial 911.
    With CDMA, when an emergency call ends, iPhone enters emergency call mode for a few minutes to allow a call back from emergency services. During this time, data transmission and text messages are blocked.
    Exit emergency call mode (CDMA). Do one of the following:
    • Tap the Back button.
    • Press the Sleep/Wake button or the Home button.
    • Use the keypad to dial a non-emergency number.

    Does anyone read manuals anymore? No where does it say this feature is for only calling 911. The only 'bug' I see is the crash the phone clearly recovers from when pressing the dial button a ridiculous amount of times.
  • Reply 127 of 130
    Originally Posted by SinisterStone
    Does anyone read manuals anymore? No where does it say this feature is for only calling 911. The only 'bug' I see is the crash the phone clearly recovers from when pressing the dial button a ridiculous amount of times.

    You've obviously missed this post...

    Fortunately, it is a bug. If you even bother to spend 5 seconds trying it yourself, and dialing a random number into the emergency dialer, you'll quickly see that as designed, doing this simply results in a message saying "867-5309 is not an emergency number." So the programmers, in fact, were not stupid enough to deliberately make any arbitrary number dialable from the lock screen. It's just a bug. Which is good, because if they actually were clueless enough about security to make the lock screen worthless on purpose, they'd all deserve to be fired.
  • Reply 128 of 130
    droidftwdroidftw Posts: 1,009member
    Does anyone read manuals anymore? No where does it say this feature is for only calling 911. The only 'bug' I see is the crash the phone clearly recovers from when pressing the dial button a ridiculous amount of times.
    It's certainly not only for calling 911 as 911 isn't the only emergency number in the world. It's also not supposed to be able to call Papa John's to order a large meat lovers, hence the bug status.
  • Reply 129 of 130
    rcfarcfa Posts: 1,124member
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    Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post


    It's also not supposed to be able to call Papa John's to order a large meat lovers, hence the bug status.

     

    What, you mean late night starvation attacks are not an emergency? :D 

  • Reply 130 of 130
    iron man wrote: »
    You've obviously missed this post...
    You are correct I did miss that post and thank you it makes more sense now.
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