Delta Airlines to distribute Surface 2 to pilots after iPad trial

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  • Reply 121 of 163
    Wonder what the kickbacks and bribes were.

    Since this is a family site, let's just say Ballmer bent over forward to get their business.

    "Flight 451, I'm having trouble reading you...there's a loud clicking noise in the background."

    This really doesn't matter in the long run. When Microsoft dumps the ST, Delta will be crawling back to Apple... Delta's Surfaces will join in building that growing new island off the coast of Redmond WA.
  • Reply 122 of 163
    Delta slogans

    1929 Speed, Comfort and Safety

    1930s Speed, Comfort and Convenience (We're sorry about that "Safety" thing)

    1935 The Trans-Southern Route (The Yankee's won't let us fly over habitable areas since that 1929 "oops.")

    1940 The Airline of the South (Wooeee, them Yankees are still holding a grudge)

    1948 None Faster. None Finer. To and Through the South. (Sometimes we even fly "over" the South)

    1950s Hospitality and Service from the Heart ( We stopped mentioning the South along with the North - we just fly east and west over the gulf)

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  • Reply 123 of 163
    Crickey, not sure I would want the blue screen of death on a plans :-)
  • Reply 124 of 163
    zabazaba Posts: 226member
    Ha ha the surface tablets are finally taking off!
  • Reply 126 of 163
    One would think Delta was quietly testing these Surface2's along side the iPads to have come to such an about face no? As others have mentioned I would imagine the BYOD movement would have more sway and people would continue to bring whatever devices they choose.

    Then again Delta is probably going to implement their own custom software on these tablets in much the same fashion as Amazon does with Android (though not to that extent) to force their employees to use the Surface2's.
  • Reply 127 of 163

    Just great. Delays, delays, delays when the Surface does not wake up. "This is the captain, please take a nap while we get this f*&^&^g thing to work again...

  • Reply 128 of 163
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,288member
    Delta slogans

    1929 Speed, Comfort and Safety

    1930s Speed, Comfort and Convenience (We're sorry about that "Safety" thing)

    1935 The Trans-Southern Route (The Yankee's won't let us fly over habitable areas since that 1929 "oops.")

    1940 The Airline of the South (Wooeee, them Yankees are still holding a grudge)

    1948 None Faster. None Finer. To and Through the South. (Sometimes we even fly "over" the South)

    1950s Hospitality and Service from the Heart ( We stopped mentioning the South along with the North - we just fly east and west over the gulf)

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    What happened with Delta in 1929? They were still crop-dusting then in addition to sometimes carrying one lone passenger. Something to do with the crop-dusting?
  • Reply 129 of 163

    Maybe its possible that delta relies heavily on microsft office and they figured it would bet better to give the pilots surfaces and lumia 820's because they both have office on them?

  • Reply 130 of 163
    It's a solid device that can display three apps side by side, has a USB port, and costs less than the iPad. Not really a surprise.
  • Reply 131 of 163
    Originally Posted by Linden View Post

    solid

     

    Yeah, it’s a brick.

     

    …display three apps side by side…


     

    Enjoy having three hands, freak. :p

     

    …has a USB port…


     

    And the iPad has every port computing has ever created.

     

    …and costs less than the iPad.


     

    Except it doesn’t.

  • Reply 132 of 163
    Delta Airlines = FAIL!
  • Reply 133 of 163
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post

     

    Ugh!

     

    Guess I won't being buying a Ford (Sync) or a Tesla (Android) or now flying on Delta.


     

    Tesla Model S does not use Android. Tesla created its own custom OS which has no relationship to Android. I own one and drive it on a daily basis. NOT ANDROID!

  • Reply 134 of 163
    Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist View Post

    I own one and drive it on a daily basis.




    OOH. How is it?

  • Reply 135 of 163
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,654member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeJones View Post

     

     

    Live tiles, two apps at once, a clickity-clack keyboard. DUH!!!

     

    /s


     

    Pilots don't need live tiles.    They need to read their manuals, which I believe are PDF files.   And that clickity-clack keyboard isn't so clickity-clack - it's very mushy and hard to type on.  Furthermore, where are they going to set this down in order to use the keyboard - it doesn't work so well in your lap, even if it were a decent keyboard.

     

    As others, I think Microsoft probably gave them a deal they couldn't refuse and Apple probably didn't.   And I bet they had a conservative IT department with some head who still thought that Apple products are toys.  

     

    As for those people who claim that you're not going to fly Delta anymore, I think that's completely ridiculous.    Do you check each component on the plane to see who manufactured it?   Do you check Delta's offices to see if they use Apple products or not?    If a restaurant has an electronic menu system for the waiters on a Pad that's not Apple's, do you not eat there?     Get over your fanboyism - it's absurd.  

     

    If they're rolling out 10,000 units, a $200 price differential is $2 million.   If you're an executive there making this decision, you have to rationalize why you'd spend $2 million more.  Could you beyond, "well, I like Apple better"?     The only case you'd have is that the Windows Surface is so far a disaster and they could be discontinued in the future.   

  • Reply 136 of 163
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Amhran View Post



    One would think Delta was quietly testing these Surface2's along side the iPads to have come to such an about face no? As others have mentioned I would imagine the BYOD movement would have more sway and people would continue to bring whatever devices they choose.

     

    To use tablets in the cockpit, the testing that is done is with the FAA.  It's public, not quiet.  You need to use the actual devices which will be used in specific aircraft.  It's an official, public, certification procedure, it's not like an IT department testing some pre-release units in the field.  It takes roughly a year to complete (depends on the number of aircraft being certified for use).  The story would've been more credible if they were talking about the Surface RT instead of the Surface 2, because at least then I'd believe they had a chance to go through the testing.

     

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    Then again Delta is probably going to implement their own custom software on these tablets in much the same fashion as Amazon does with Android (though not to that extent) to force their employees to use the Surface2's.


     

    That's not going to work.  One critical piece of software is from Jeppesen.  They're a 3,200 person company founded in 1934 and now owned by Boeing.  They make charts and have for decades done paper charts and since 1996 have been doing charting software and apps.  Most of their software either requires Windows XP or iOS.  You can't really "replicate" Jeppesen.  The data is enormous and the software is... well, designed with people's lives in mind. 

     

    In addition to "map" charts, there is also the issue of checklists for take-off/landings as well as emergencies and documentation regarding the aircraft itself.

     

    Now it's possible that Microsoft/Delta could contract Jeppesen to develop software for the Surface 2, but the cost per device to do so would be insane, plus the testing couldn't occur until the software was developed.  Boeing, being a publicly traded company would have to disclose such information as it impacts their financial reporting.

  • Reply 137 of 163
    Delta #1 to crash customers life by a cheap IT dominated decision while the CFO rules Delta and not the CEOs Strategy.

    I will never fly this shitty jet
  • Reply 138 of 163
    drblankdrblank Posts: 3,385member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnTChance View Post



    Wonder what the kickbacks and bribes were.

     

    It's called price dumping.  Microsoft will do that to get an account.  If Delta has the BYOD program and enough pilots bring their own iPad, I think that would be funny.  That's usually what happens in a BYOD program.

  • Reply 139 of 163
    drblankdrblank Posts: 3,385member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist View Post

     

     

    Tesla Model S does not use Android. Tesla created its own custom OS which has no relationship to Android. I own one and drive it on a daily basis. NOT ANDROID!


     

    Good.  At least they got one thing right.  How easy is it to use the 17inch screen while driving?  Is it too distracting?  That's my main concern with their system.  How about comfort? What did you drive before you switched to a Tesla?  Just curious.

  • Reply 140 of 163
    [quote name="patpatpat" url="/t/159816/delta-airlines-to-distribute-surface-2-to-pilots-after-ipad-trial/90#post_2407414"]
    I could be wrong but most hospital computers run Microsoft.
    [/quote

    Well imagine all the lives that can be safe if they used apple...
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