The fact that you would even have to do that is STUPID... the Galaxy Nexus is only 2 years old. Same age as the 4s. If I would have purchased a GNex I would be VERY unhappy right about now.
I find it odd. People talk about the irrational hatred of Apple, yet go to any Nexus 5 thread today and you won't find too many comments complaining about the iPhone instead.
It's a solid device at a great price. Simple as that. A full $200 cheaper than the 5C and more capable. That's good value to me.
For me, everything else is Apple, except my phone. For several reasons:
1) Once you use a larger screen, going to the 4 incher sucks monkey balls. No matter what the resolution. I wouldn't say I need a 5" phone. But somewhere around 4.5" is probably right. At the very minimum there is no reason, Apple can't offer two phone sizes, if it's so concerned about those with smaller hands.
2) The swipe keyboard on Android makes one-handed operation a cinch. Keyboard plain sucks on iOS. And Apple just doesn't seem to be bothered enough to do anything. Heck, they still have all the letters in capitals. Makes no sense from a useability perspective. I want to know when I turn caps on.
3) Working with networks. Apple chooses to work with networks that gouge. I don't mind paying more for the phone. But there's no way I'm paying twice as much for service just to support the phone. Here in Canada, I can pay $40 on Wind for unlimited everything. Or I can pay $90 on Rogers for capped everything, just for the privilege of owning an iPhone. Caps impact my user experience more than anything else. It basically turns my phone into a paperweight for half the day.
These three very simple reasons keep me from going for an iPhone every year. And that decision is easy when I can buy a Nexus phone for $411 with taxes and shippping. Here in Canada, the 4S starts at $450. And that's before tax.
The fact that you would even have to do that is STUPID... the Galaxy Nexus is only 2 years old. Same age as the 4s. If I would have purchased a GNex I would be VERY unhappy right about now.
I have a GNex and I fully agree with this, having bought the phone in Feb 2012. But I'm giving this phone to the girlfriend who is replacing a feature phone. I highly doubt she cares that the phone will run 4.3 instead of 4.4.
She'll use it for a year and then get my N5 when I get the N6 or the iPhone 6 (if it meets my conditions). This is reality. Only the geeks really care about features. The only time people really care about OS changes (in my experience) is when there are visual changes. And the changes from Jellybean to Kit Kat aren't all that visually noticeable to the average user. Going from iOS6 to iOS7 though would be a much bigger deal.
Only the geeks really care about features. The only time people really care about OS changes (in my experience) is when there are visual changes. And the changes from Jellybean to Kit Kat aren't all that visually noticeable to the average user. Going from iOS6 to iOS7 though would be a much bigger deal.
Being left on 4.3 also isn't as big a deal in terms of features because the core apps like chrome, gmail, and maps, are nowadays updated independently of the OS version. On the other hand, the only way to get the latest Safari is to update to iOS 7 and accept all the other changes as well.
I find it odd. People talk about the irrational hatred of Apple, yet go to any Nexus 5 thread today and you won't find too many comments complaining about the iPhone instead.
It's a solid device at a great price. Simple as that. A full $200 cheaper than the 5C and more capable. That's good value to me.
For me, everything else is Apple, except my phone. For several reasons:
1) Once you use a larger screen, going to the 4 incher sucks monkey balls. No matter what the resolution. I wouldn't say I need a 5" phone. But somewhere around 4.5" is probably right. At the very minimum there is no reason, Apple can't offer two phone sizes, if it's so concerned about those with smaller hands.
2) The swipe keyboard on Android makes one-handed operation a cinch. Keyboard plain sucks on iOS. And Apple just doesn't seem to be bothered enough to do anything. Heck, they still have all the letters in capitals. Makes no sense from a useability perspective. I want to know when I turn caps on.
3) Working with networks. Apple chooses to work with networks that gouge. I don't mind paying more for the phone. But there's no way I'm paying twice as much for service just to support the phone. Here in Canada, I can pay $40 on Wind for unlimited everything. Or I can pay $90 on Rogers for capped everything, just for the privilege of owning an iPhone. Caps impact my user experience more than anything else. It basically turns my phone into a paperweight for half the day.
These three very simple reasons keep me from going for an iPhone every year. And that decision is easy when I can buy a Nexus phone for $411 with taxes and shippping. Here in Canada, the 4S starts at $450. And that's before tax.
I would agree with you on the screen size. But, believe it or not I've talked to a lot of people that actually don't like the larger screen phones. They want something thin, small, light weight, obviously good resolution. I personally prefer something larger, but I won't buy Android anything. I made that decision a LONG time ago. I just won't buy a smartphone/tablet from a non-computer company. I chose Apple OS X a LONG time ago over Windows, I like the fact that the mobile devices Apple makes work well and are designed purposely to work well with the desktop and that's what I enjoy. Out of my three devices, the iPhone gets the least amount of use since I'm at home most of the time and work on the desktop and I don't make or take tons of calls. I've always preferred email or face to face and leave cell phone calls to a minimum. But I like using an app on any device and it gets sync'd to the others.
That's the beauty of Android. My Galaxy Nexus is already running a 4.4 ROM. Original Motorola Droid will get it soon too. 4 years of up to date! Anyone that bought the Galaxy Nexus (which was labeled as only a developer phone FYI) can easily get KitKat.
But, I do think it's BS that Google doesn't officially release the update. Poor showing. Fortunately, it really doesn't matter. Most ROMs updates often and automatically. It's all good.
Here is official word about the Galaxy Nexus from Google:
Quote:
Google also notes that the Galaxy Nexus uses a chip made by Texas Instruments — a company that's no longer actively developing smartphone chips.
If Apple ecosystem is a walled garden, Android one is a graveyard of devices no longer supported from their original mfg. I wonder how many orphan OMAP phone there is out there.
Nothing was mentioned about the Nexus 5 as having a 64 bit processor, nor did it say anything about KitKat being 64 bit OS. Does anyone know anything about this?
Nothing was mentioned about the Nexus 5 as having a 64 bit processor, nor did it say anything about KitKat being 64 bit OS. Does anyone know anything about this?
Nothing was mentioned about the Nexus 5 as having a 64 bit processor, nor did it say anything about KitKat being 64 bit OS. Does anyone know anything about this?
I am willing to place my bet on kit kat is 32-bit.
Nothing was mentioned about the Nexus 5 as having a 64 bit processor, nor did it say anything about KitKat being 64 bit OS. Does anyone know anything about this?
The Snapdragon 800 is based on ARMv7; I don't think there are other chips besides Apple's A7 based on ARMv8 yet.
Ok, is KitKat? Then I guess Samsung is either going to have to not live up to their word that the next Samsung Galaxy phone is supposed to be 64 bit, OR they are just going to release a 64 bit processor that only runs a 32 bit OS.
I also read that KitKat is supposed to run on older phones going back to Gingerbread.
Ok, is KitKat? Then I guess Samsung is either going to have to not live up to their word that the next Samsung Galaxy phone is supposed to be 64 bit, OR they are just going to release a 64 bit processor that only runs a 32 bit OS.
I also read that KitKat is supposed to run on older phones going back to Gingerbread.
Supposedly will run on devices with as little as 512K memory so yeah, years worth of phones would be upgradable. That doesn't mean they'll be upgraded. Have to see how/if Google "encourages" the OHA members to offer it.
Ok, is KitKat? Then I guess Samsung is either going to have to not live up to their word that the next Samsung Galaxy phone is supposed to be 64 bit, OR they are just going to release a 64 bit processor that only runs a 32 bit OS.
I don't believe so. There aren't any ARMv8 chips for a 64-bit Android to run on. On the other hand, since Android iterates semiannually, it's conceivable that there will be a 64 bit build by the time ARMv8 finally starts getting implemented en masse.
I don't believe so. There aren't any ARMv8 chips for a 64-bit Android to run on. On the other hand, since Android iterates semiannually, it's conceivable that there will be a 64 bit build by the time ARMv8 finally starts getting implemented en masse.
I don't believe so. There aren't any ARMv8 chips for a 64-bit Android to run on. On the other hand, since Android iterates semiannually, it's conceivable that there will be a 64 bit build by the time ARMv8 finally starts getting implemented en masse.
Here's what I am noticing, Google has to have their OS on the market for about 6 months before we see the OEMs releasing their version of it. So, Google has to release a 64bit ARMv8 phone w/OS 6 months before the others can start offering the OS on their phone.
Now, Scamscum said that their next Galaxy phone would be 64bit, but they typically announce their flagship phone around May timeframe.
So, what I'm thinking is that the Scamscum S5 will be a 64bit processor not running a 64bit OS. OR, it won't be a 64bit processor running KitKat.
I think Android is going to slowly go down hill for the top end phone. I think once Apple starts shipping their large screen model, they'll start cleaning up as they will have a 64 bit phone/tablet, 64bit OS, and plenty of 64bit apps. More compelling story/reason to pay the Apple premium prices.
Huh, works fine for me. You must of clicked on it during an update or something and please you can't sum up an entire company because of one link. I find dead links on Apple.com all the time so what Apple is now a crappy company. It's a new site, give them some slack geesh, I know your trying to get a little cred with the rest of the Google lynch mob but please try and be a little more creative next time.
Do you need to root your device to install a custom ROM? One shouldn't have to take advantage of security exploits just to get an updated OS.
The Nexus series has an open boot loader so there is no security exploit. The Nexus series of devices is among the the easiest to flash a new ROM. It takes all of 5 minutes after you download the ROM you wish to flash.
At least some reports blame the TI chipset used for the Galaxy Nexus, one that's no longer in production or supported. No idea if there's any validity to it tho obviously 4.4 can be adapted for it.
It's fairly easy to port Android 4.4 to the TI chip, in fact it's already be done. Ounce the guys over at XDA get the source it normally takes a day or two for a ROM to pop up. I know the manufactures suck when it comes to supporting their software but where they have failed the developer community has come in to pick up the slack. The original Android phone the HTC G1 has a 4.4 update now. Some ROMS support over the air updates as well so you only have to flash your device once and then you'll have the latest Android OS for at least 5 years.
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No, you don't need to root to flash a ROM
The fact that you would even have to do that is STUPID... the Galaxy Nexus is only 2 years old. Same age as the 4s. If I would have purchased a GNex I would be VERY unhappy right about now.
I find it odd. People talk about the irrational hatred of Apple, yet go to any Nexus 5 thread today and you won't find too many comments complaining about the iPhone instead.
It's a solid device at a great price. Simple as that. A full $200 cheaper than the 5C and more capable. That's good value to me.
For me, everything else is Apple, except my phone. For several reasons:
1) Once you use a larger screen, going to the 4 incher sucks monkey balls. No matter what the resolution. I wouldn't say I need a 5" phone. But somewhere around 4.5" is probably right. At the very minimum there is no reason, Apple can't offer two phone sizes, if it's so concerned about those with smaller hands.
2) The swipe keyboard on Android makes one-handed operation a cinch. Keyboard plain sucks on iOS. And Apple just doesn't seem to be bothered enough to do anything. Heck, they still have all the letters in capitals. Makes no sense from a useability perspective. I want to know when I turn caps on.
3) Working with networks. Apple chooses to work with networks that gouge. I don't mind paying more for the phone. But there's no way I'm paying twice as much for service just to support the phone. Here in Canada, I can pay $40 on Wind for unlimited everything. Or I can pay $90 on Rogers for capped everything, just for the privilege of owning an iPhone. Caps impact my user experience more than anything else. It basically turns my phone into a paperweight for half the day.
These three very simple reasons keep me from going for an iPhone every year. And that decision is easy when I can buy a Nexus phone for $411 with taxes and shippping. Here in Canada, the 4S starts at $450. And that's before tax.
The fact that you would even have to do that is STUPID... the Galaxy Nexus is only 2 years old. Same age as the 4s. If I would have purchased a GNex I would be VERY unhappy right about now.
I have a GNex and I fully agree with this, having bought the phone in Feb 2012. But I'm giving this phone to the girlfriend who is replacing a feature phone. I highly doubt she cares that the phone will run 4.3 instead of 4.4.
She'll use it for a year and then get my N5 when I get the N6 or the iPhone 6 (if it meets my conditions). This is reality. Only the geeks really care about features. The only time people really care about OS changes (in my experience) is when there are visual changes. And the changes from Jellybean to Kit Kat aren't all that visually noticeable to the average user. Going from iOS6 to iOS7 though would be a much bigger deal.
Only the geeks really care about features. The only time people really care about OS changes (in my experience) is when there are visual changes. And the changes from Jellybean to Kit Kat aren't all that visually noticeable to the average user. Going from iOS6 to iOS7 though would be a much bigger deal.
Being left on 4.3 also isn't as big a deal in terms of features because the core apps like chrome, gmail, and maps, are nowadays updated independently of the OS version. On the other hand, the only way to get the latest Safari is to update to iOS 7 and accept all the other changes as well.
With that new step sensor, Fandroids will be assured of when they arrive safely at home, in their parent's basement.
No, I think the correct term is Hemorrhoids. The Fandroids aren't the one's in the basement.
I find it odd. People talk about the irrational hatred of Apple, yet go to any Nexus 5 thread today and you won't find too many comments complaining about the iPhone instead.
It's a solid device at a great price. Simple as that. A full $200 cheaper than the 5C and more capable. That's good value to me.
For me, everything else is Apple, except my phone. For several reasons:
1) Once you use a larger screen, going to the 4 incher sucks monkey balls. No matter what the resolution. I wouldn't say I need a 5" phone. But somewhere around 4.5" is probably right. At the very minimum there is no reason, Apple can't offer two phone sizes, if it's so concerned about those with smaller hands.
2) The swipe keyboard on Android makes one-handed operation a cinch. Keyboard plain sucks on iOS. And Apple just doesn't seem to be bothered enough to do anything. Heck, they still have all the letters in capitals. Makes no sense from a useability perspective. I want to know when I turn caps on.
3) Working with networks. Apple chooses to work with networks that gouge. I don't mind paying more for the phone. But there's no way I'm paying twice as much for service just to support the phone. Here in Canada, I can pay $40 on Wind for unlimited everything. Or I can pay $90 on Rogers for capped everything, just for the privilege of owning an iPhone. Caps impact my user experience more than anything else. It basically turns my phone into a paperweight for half the day.
These three very simple reasons keep me from going for an iPhone every year. And that decision is easy when I can buy a Nexus phone for $411 with taxes and shippping. Here in Canada, the 4S starts at $450. And that's before tax.
I would agree with you on the screen size. But, believe it or not I've talked to a lot of people that actually don't like the larger screen phones. They want something thin, small, light weight, obviously good resolution. I personally prefer something larger, but I won't buy Android anything. I made that decision a LONG time ago. I just won't buy a smartphone/tablet from a non-computer company. I chose Apple OS X a LONG time ago over Windows, I like the fact that the mobile devices Apple makes work well and are designed purposely to work well with the desktop and that's what I enjoy. Out of my three devices, the iPhone gets the least amount of use since I'm at home most of the time and work on the desktop and I don't make or take tons of calls. I've always preferred email or face to face and leave cell phone calls to a minimum. But I like using an app on any device and it gets sync'd to the others.
That's the beauty of Android. My Galaxy Nexus is already running a 4.4 ROM. Original Motorola Droid will get it soon too. 4 years of up to date! Anyone that bought the Galaxy Nexus (which was labeled as only a developer phone FYI) can easily get KitKat.
But, I do think it's BS that Google doesn't officially release the update. Poor showing. Fortunately, it really doesn't matter. Most ROMs updates often and automatically. It's all good.
Here is official word about the Galaxy Nexus from Google:
If Apple ecosystem is a walled garden, Android one is a graveyard of devices no longer supported from their original mfg. I wonder how many orphan OMAP phone there is out there.
Nothing was mentioned about the Nexus 5 as having a 64 bit processor, nor did it say anything about KitKat being 64 bit OS. Does anyone know anything about this?
They aren't
Nothing was mentioned about the Nexus 5 as having a 64 bit processor, nor did it say anything about KitKat being 64 bit OS. Does anyone know anything about this?
I am willing to place my bet on kit kat is 32-bit.
Nothing was mentioned about the Nexus 5 as having a 64 bit processor, nor did it say anything about KitKat being 64 bit OS. Does anyone know anything about this?
The Snapdragon 800 is based on ARMv7; I don't think there are other chips besides Apple's A7 based on ARMv8 yet.
They aren't
Ok, is KitKat? Then I guess Samsung is either going to have to not live up to their word that the next Samsung Galaxy phone is supposed to be 64 bit, OR they are just going to release a 64 bit processor that only runs a 32 bit OS.
I also read that KitKat is supposed to run on older phones going back to Gingerbread.
Supposedly will run on devices with as little as 512K memory so yeah, years worth of phones would be upgradable. That doesn't mean they'll be upgraded. Have to see how/if Google "encourages" the OHA members to offer it.
Ok, is KitKat? Then I guess Samsung is either going to have to not live up to their word that the next Samsung Galaxy phone is supposed to be 64 bit, OR they are just going to release a 64 bit processor that only runs a 32 bit OS.
I don't believe so. There aren't any ARMv8 chips for a 64-bit Android to run on. On the other hand, since Android iterates semiannually, it's conceivable that there will be a 64 bit build by the time ARMv8 finally starts getting implemented en masse.
As I read it the only real hold-up even now is the hardware side. Software-wise it's already pretty well baked into Android.
http://www.slashgear.com/android-64-bit-support-already-baked-in-just-add-hardware-17298038/
I don't believe so. There aren't any ARMv8 chips for a 64-bit Android to run on. On the other hand, since Android iterates semiannually, it's conceivable that there will be a 64 bit build by the time ARMv8 finally starts getting implemented en masse.
Here's what I am noticing, Google has to have their OS on the market for about 6 months before we see the OEMs releasing their version of it. So, Google has to release a 64bit ARMv8 phone w/OS 6 months before the others can start offering the OS on their phone.
Now, Scamscum said that their next Galaxy phone would be 64bit, but they typically announce their flagship phone around May timeframe.
So, what I'm thinking is that the Scamscum S5 will be a 64bit processor not running a 64bit OS. OR, it won't be a 64bit processor running KitKat.
I think Android is going to slowly go down hill for the top end phone. I think once Apple starts shipping their large screen model, they'll start cleaning up as they will have a 64 bit phone/tablet, 64bit OS, and plenty of 64bit apps. More compelling story/reason to pay the Apple premium prices.
As I read it the only real hold-up even now is the hardware side. Software-wise it's already pretty well baked into Android.
http://www.slashgear.com/android-64-bit-support-already-baked-in-just-add-hardware-17298038/
I would think that they would have mentioned this at the KitKat announcement, but I haven't seen anywhere where they did.
Please check the google quality and service of their website :
http://www.android.com/kitkat/
go to bottom and click Learn more about Android KitKat link its not working .
This is how the quality standards of great web service company in the world of kitkat
Learn more about Android KitKa about Android KitKa
Huh, works fine for me. You must of clicked on it during an update or something and please you can't sum up an entire company because of one link. I find dead links on Apple.com all the time so what Apple is now a crappy company. It's a new site, give them some slack geesh, I know your trying to get a little cred with the rest of the Google lynch mob but please try and be a little more creative next time.
Do you need to root your device to install a custom ROM? One shouldn't have to take advantage of security exploits just to get an updated OS.
The Nexus series has an open boot loader so there is no security exploit. The Nexus series of devices is among the the easiest to flash a new ROM. It takes all of 5 minutes after you download the ROM you wish to flash.
At least some reports blame the TI chipset used for the Galaxy Nexus, one that's no longer in production or supported. No idea if there's any validity to it tho obviously 4.4 can be adapted for it.
It's fairly easy to port Android 4.4 to the TI chip, in fact it's already be done. Ounce the guys over at XDA get the source it normally takes a day or two for a ROM to pop up. I know the manufactures suck when it comes to supporting their software but where they have failed the developer community has come in to pick up the slack. The original Android phone the HTC G1 has a 4.4 update now. Some ROMS support over the air updates as well so you only have to flash your device once and then you'll have the latest Android OS for at least 5 years.