Am I the only one here who is finding the mobile version of AppleInsider almost unusable? Massive lag just trying to scroll through content and text entry is a nightmare. Took 3-4 times longer creating this post versus the desktop. AI...big problems here.
Not having any lag on iPhone 5. Other than crappy KB UI in iOS, everything works fine.
And that's like saying Apple will close tomorrow. Apple doesn't just give up. And the story gets it wrong in another way. Apple sells content to sell hardware, not the other way around. Apple may not release a product soon but just plain give up, I don't think so. Apple worked on the iPhone for 7 years before it's release. So I think a big grain of salt needs to be tossed on this story. So yea we may not see an Apple TV tomorrow but don't bet against Apple for the near future though. Unlike Google, Apple wants to have good content available before it releases a newer Apple TV. They have been making good progress recently with updates to the current Apple TV content. Hopefully that will continue.
If I was creating content then Apple would be the last people I would want to partner with to provide exclusive content.
The problem would be that your stuff would only be on Apple devices. Partner with anyone else and your on multiple devices. It doesn't matter how good Apples devices are, the fact remains most people don't have them and even if 50% of people did have them you'd still be cutting your audience in half.
I thought iTunes was available on Mac and PC, has that changed? /s
HBO has 114 million subscribers while iTunes has 575 million so if you were going to product content exclusive for HBO, you would be better to do so for iTunes. I also think iTunes does a decent job of renting and selling TV and movie content already, along with music.
I thought iTunes was available on Mac and PC, has that changed? /s
HBO has 114 million subscribers while iTunes has 575 million so if you were going to product content exclusive for HBO, you would be better to do so for iTunes. I also think iTunes does a decent job of renting and selling TV and movie content already, along with music.
ITunes is still on the PC but it would be interesting to see what it's usage stats are these days. As MP3 players are dropping sales and people use there phones instead, there's not much use for iTunes any more. I still use it for my iPod shuffle, but that's about it. I dont really use it to actually play music on any more.
The 575 million iTunes users is also worldwide whereas the HBO figure is just US isn't it?
The other thing to consider would be if it was a subscription model to Apple's TV content. As a consumer Id then be thinking similar to iBooks, that the content would work on our iPads, apple TV, mac and iPhone. But I have a win phone, and we've also got some win 8 tablets which it wouldn't work on. Other people are making apps for everything so it seems better to go with them rather than apple.
Analysts are doing the same thing they've always done in regards to Apple:
Throwing out bullshit to make it sound like they have some idea of what Apple is going to do.
10% of them have a guy somewhere in the supply chain, who probably knows what the company he works for is doing for Apple, at any given moment. What he doesn't know is that there are 3 other companies supplying the same thing to Apple, and his company is producing the lowest yields vs cost of them all. He thinks that because Apple has decreased orders, that demand for whatever they make is waning.
10% of them have the same scenario as above, but his guy's company does good quality work, and can churn out the components at a fair price. He thinks that because orders are staying consistent, that Apple is doing OK with whatever they're making the parts for.
10% of them are in the same situation, except the source at his place says that Apple keeps upping orders. His guy keeps telling him Apple must be wildly successful with whatever product they're contributing to, because they just had to add a shift to keep up with demand.
None of them know that Apple already has forecasted the number of components they need for the device, and are just shifting production numbers to the manufacturer who is doing the best job.
They all trade based on what they think they know, and then put out a press release to move the stock price to where they'd like it to go. Often they are successful at manipulating the price, but it has nothing to do with what is actually going on.
70% of them know this, so they don't even bother with "having a guy". They just go long or short on Apple, then put out some bullshit to try and manipulate the market.
ITunes is still on the PC but it would be interesting to see what it's usage stats are these days. As MP3 players are dropping sales and people use there phones instead, there's not much use for iTunes any more. I still use it for my iPod shuffle, but that's about it. I dont really use it to actually play music on any more.
The 575 million iTunes users is also worldwide whereas the HBO figure is just US isn't it?
The other thing to consider would be if it was a subscription model to Apple's TV content. As a consumer Id then be thinking similar to iBooks, that the content would work on our iPads, apple TV, mac and iPhone. But I have a win phone, and we've also got some win 8 tablets which it wouldn't work on. Other people are making apps for everything so it seems better to go with them rather than apple.
iTunes is not just used for an iPod, but mostly used to buy, rent, and consume content.
HBO was worldwide figures also.
Okay, if you rent a movie on iTunes or Apple TV today, you can't see that on other platforms iTunes is not on, yet Apple rents and sells millions of movies and tv shows. This is not theory, they are doing it every year. If they are doing this without your win phone for movies they are licensing, how much would they be able to do with movies they own? At least the same.
Other people are making apps for everything, yet year after year Apple give more $$ to developers than anyone. That is why devs like to develop for Apple. Although that has nothing to do with this thread.
The down the road payoff is that Apple would own a large content portfolio, growing larger every year. 5+ years in the future if Apple has movies and TV shows and license other content for news and sports, they would start to have a well rounded alternative to cable. Again, not replacing them, but at least an addition to. Remember, Netflix was never a replacement for per movie rentals when they started, and now look how many accounts they have vs. how many movie rental retail boxes.
What further amazes me is all the TV show purchases as I would never thought to purchase a TV series, but many, many do. So Apple can also buy shows and sell them exclusively.
May opportunities and options in this segment and Apple has proven year after year, that they can sell content like no one else can.
iTunes is not just used for an iPod, but mostly used to buy, rent, and consume content.
HBO was worldwide figures also.
Okay, if you rent a movie on iTunes or Apple TV today, you can't see that on other platforms iTunes is not on, yet Apple rents and sells millions of movies and tv shows. This is not theory, they are doing it every year. If they are doing this without your win phone for movies they are licensing, how much would they be able to do with movies they own? At least the same.
Other people are making apps for everything, yet year after year Apple give more $$ to developers than anyone. That is why devs like to develop for Apple. Although that has nothing to do with this thread.
The down the road payoff is that Apple would own a large content portfolio, growing larger every year. 5+ years in the future if Apple has movies and TV shows and license other content for news and sports, they would start to have a well rounded alternative to cable. Again, not replacing them, but at least an addition to. Remember, Netflix was never a replacement for per movie rentals when they started, and now look how many accounts they have vs. how many movie rental retail boxes.
What further amazes me is all the TV show purchases as I would never thought to purchase a TV series, but many, many do. So Apple can also buy shows and sell them exclusively.
May opportunities and options in this segment and Apple has proven year after year, that they can sell content like no one else can.
Ok I understand the HBO figure now. I didn't think they existed outside the US as I'm in the UK and have never seen anything called HBO over here. They are here but there just regular channels on Sky TV which would give them around 25 million subscribers. But it is just a regular TV channel that's part of the most basic package you can get.
The millions of rentals etc that iTunes currently does isn't on exclusive content and there not even market leading at doing this.
So my point was as a content producer would you really want to be limiting your audience in this way. Then as the service would only be available to people with Apple hardware, if your program became a success it wouldn't be a case of someone taking out a subscription to Netflix, Lovefilm, etc. They would actually have to go and by a £100+ device to get it on there TV.
Ok I understand the HBO figure now. I didn't think they existed outside the US as I'm in the UK and have never seen anything called HBO over here. They are here but there just regular channels on Sky TV which would give them around 25 million subscribers. But it is just a regular TV channel that's part of the most basic package you can get.
The millions of rentals etc that iTunes currently does isn't on exclusive content and there not even market leading at doing this.
So my point was as a content producer would you really want to be limiting your audience in this way. Then as the service would only be available to people with Apple hardware, if your program became a success it wouldn't be a case of someone taking out a subscription to Netflix, Lovefilm, etc. They would actually have to go and by a £100+ device to get it on there TV.
You are, of course, absolutely correct. There is neither a business nor an artistic reason for Apple to get into content production. Apple does content delivery through the iTunes Music Store. However, there is no need for Apple to get much more involved in delivery. This is not where the action is. The action now is in content management and integration. Provide the user seamless access to everything irrespective of source. Other players are establishing digital video recorders at the center of personal/family entertainment with the ability to stream to the subscriber's iPad or iPhone anywhere.
This is happening now. Apple devices are essential components in the new personal entertainment paradigm. However, Apple's role in this entertainment revolution is that of a sideline player. This is a rapidly changing landscape even without Apple as an active player. However, I believe that Apple has significant role to play if it wants to accept its role.
Ok I understand the HBO figure now. I didn't think they existed outside the US as I'm in the UK and have never seen anything called HBO over here. They are here but there just regular channels on Sky TV which would give them around 25 million subscribers. But it is just a regular TV channel that's part of the most basic package you can get.
The millions of rentals etc that iTunes currently does isn't on exclusive content and there not even market leading at doing this.
So my point was as a content producer would you really want to be limiting your audience in this way. Then as the service would only be available to people with Apple hardware, if your program became a success it wouldn't be a case of someone taking out a subscription to Netflix, Lovefilm, etc. They would actually have to go and by a £100+ device to get it on there TV.
Again, iTunes is available on the PC, so not limited to just Apple hardware. Yes, if they want it on their TV, they would have to purchase the Apple TV, which would be a very big deal to the company selling the Apple TV device, would it not?
I think you are misunderstanding the 'who' is creating content. I am not talking about a studio making content solely for Apple, but Apple owning a studio and producing content for themselves. I am sure many people in the industry would like to be apart of that, aka, working for Apple to do this. I agree, that no one with their own money will, at this point, want to produce entertainment content for Apple exclusively.
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Apple TV would fly off the shelves if Apple would just put the App Store on it.
Not having any lag on iPhone 5. Other than crappy KB UI in iOS, everything works fine.
And then controlling it with your iOS device... which we already do.
Apple doesn't just give up. And the story gets it wrong in another way.
Apple sells content to sell hardware, not the other way around.
Apple may not release a product soon but just plain give up, I don't think so.
Apple worked on the iPhone for 7 years before it's release. So I think a big grain of salt
needs to be tossed on this story. So yea we may not see an Apple TV tomorrow but don't bet against Apple for the near future though.
Unlike Google, Apple wants to have good content available before it releases a newer Apple TV.
They have been making good progress recently with updates to the current Apple TV content.
Hopefully that will continue.
If I was creating content then Apple would be the last people I would want to partner with to provide exclusive content.
The problem would be that your stuff would only be on Apple devices. Partner with anyone else and your on multiple devices. It doesn't matter how good Apples devices are, the fact remains most people don't have them and even if 50% of people did have them you'd still be cutting your audience in half.
I thought iTunes was available on Mac and PC, has that changed? /s
HBO has 114 million subscribers while iTunes has 575 million so if you were going to product content exclusive for HBO, you would be better to do so for iTunes. I also think iTunes does a decent job of renting and selling TV and movie content already, along with music.
I thought iTunes was available on Mac and PC, has that changed? /s
HBO has 114 million subscribers while iTunes has 575 million so if you were going to product content exclusive for HBO, you would be better to do so for iTunes. I also think iTunes does a decent job of renting and selling TV and movie content already, along with music.
ITunes is still on the PC but it would be interesting to see what it's usage stats are these days. As MP3 players are dropping sales and people use there phones instead, there's not much use for iTunes any more. I still use it for my iPod shuffle, but that's about it. I dont really use it to actually play music on any more.
The 575 million iTunes users is also worldwide whereas the HBO figure is just US isn't it?
The other thing to consider would be if it was a subscription model to Apple's TV content. As a consumer Id then be thinking similar to iBooks, that the content would work on our iPads, apple TV, mac and iPhone. But I have a win phone, and we've also got some win 8 tablets which it wouldn't work on. Other people are making apps for everything so it seems better to go with them rather than apple.
Analysts are doing the same thing they've always done in regards to Apple:
Throwing out bullshit to make it sound like they have some idea of what Apple is going to do.
10% of them have a guy somewhere in the supply chain, who probably knows what the company he works for is doing for Apple, at any given moment. What he doesn't know is that there are 3 other companies supplying the same thing to Apple, and his company is producing the lowest yields vs cost of them all. He thinks that because Apple has decreased orders, that demand for whatever they make is waning.
10% of them have the same scenario as above, but his guy's company does good quality work, and can churn out the components at a fair price. He thinks that because orders are staying consistent, that Apple is doing OK with whatever they're making the parts for.
10% of them are in the same situation, except the source at his place says that Apple keeps upping orders. His guy keeps telling him Apple must be wildly successful with whatever product they're contributing to, because they just had to add a shift to keep up with demand.
None of them know that Apple already has forecasted the number of components they need for the device, and are just shifting production numbers to the manufacturer who is doing the best job.
They all trade based on what they think they know, and then put out a press release to move the stock price to where they'd like it to go. Often they are successful at manipulating the price, but it has nothing to do with what is actually going on.
70% of them know this, so they don't even bother with "having a guy". They just go long or short on Apple, then put out some bullshit to try and manipulate the market.
Come to think of it, 70% seems a little low.
ITunes is still on the PC but it would be interesting to see what it's usage stats are these days. As MP3 players are dropping sales and people use there phones instead, there's not much use for iTunes any more. I still use it for my iPod shuffle, but that's about it. I dont really use it to actually play music on any more.
The 575 million iTunes users is also worldwide whereas the HBO figure is just US isn't it?
The other thing to consider would be if it was a subscription model to Apple's TV content. As a consumer Id then be thinking similar to iBooks, that the content would work on our iPads, apple TV, mac and iPhone. But I have a win phone, and we've also got some win 8 tablets which it wouldn't work on. Other people are making apps for everything so it seems better to go with them rather than apple.
iTunes is not just used for an iPod, but mostly used to buy, rent, and consume content.
HBO was worldwide figures also.
Okay, if you rent a movie on iTunes or Apple TV today, you can't see that on other platforms iTunes is not on, yet Apple rents and sells millions of movies and tv shows. This is not theory, they are doing it every year. If they are doing this without your win phone for movies they are licensing, how much would they be able to do with movies they own? At least the same.
Other people are making apps for everything, yet year after year Apple give more $$ to developers than anyone. That is why devs like to develop for Apple. Although that has nothing to do with this thread.
The down the road payoff is that Apple would own a large content portfolio, growing larger every year. 5+ years in the future if Apple has movies and TV shows and license other content for news and sports, they would start to have a well rounded alternative to cable. Again, not replacing them, but at least an addition to. Remember, Netflix was never a replacement for per movie rentals when they started, and now look how many accounts they have vs. how many movie rental retail boxes.
What further amazes me is all the TV show purchases as I would never thought to purchase a TV series, but many, many do. So Apple can also buy shows and sell them exclusively.
May opportunities and options in this segment and Apple has proven year after year, that they can sell content like no one else can.
iTunes is not just used for an iPod, but mostly used to buy, rent, and consume content.
HBO was worldwide figures also.
Okay, if you rent a movie on iTunes or Apple TV today, you can't see that on other platforms iTunes is not on, yet Apple rents and sells millions of movies and tv shows. This is not theory, they are doing it every year. If they are doing this without your win phone for movies they are licensing, how much would they be able to do with movies they own? At least the same.
Other people are making apps for everything, yet year after year Apple give more $$ to developers than anyone. That is why devs like to develop for Apple. Although that has nothing to do with this thread.
The down the road payoff is that Apple would own a large content portfolio, growing larger every year. 5+ years in the future if Apple has movies and TV shows and license other content for news and sports, they would start to have a well rounded alternative to cable. Again, not replacing them, but at least an addition to. Remember, Netflix was never a replacement for per movie rentals when they started, and now look how many accounts they have vs. how many movie rental retail boxes.
What further amazes me is all the TV show purchases as I would never thought to purchase a TV series, but many, many do. So Apple can also buy shows and sell them exclusively.
May opportunities and options in this segment and Apple has proven year after year, that they can sell content like no one else can.
Ok I understand the HBO figure now. I didn't think they existed outside the US as I'm in the UK and have never seen anything called HBO over here. They are here but there just regular channels on Sky TV which would give them around 25 million subscribers. But it is just a regular TV channel that's part of the most basic package you can get.
The millions of rentals etc that iTunes currently does isn't on exclusive content and there not even market leading at doing this.
So my point was as a content producer would you really want to be limiting your audience in this way. Then as the service would only be available to people with Apple hardware, if your program became a success it wouldn't be a case of someone taking out a subscription to Netflix, Lovefilm, etc. They would actually have to go and by a £100+ device to get it on there TV.
This is happening now. Apple devices are essential components in the new personal entertainment paradigm. However, Apple's role in this entertainment revolution is that of a sideline player. This is a rapidly changing landscape even without Apple as an active player. However, I believe that Apple has significant role to play if it wants to accept its role.
Ok I understand the HBO figure now. I didn't think they existed outside the US as I'm in the UK and have never seen anything called HBO over here. They are here but there just regular channels on Sky TV which would give them around 25 million subscribers. But it is just a regular TV channel that's part of the most basic package you can get.
The millions of rentals etc that iTunes currently does isn't on exclusive content and there not even market leading at doing this.
So my point was as a content producer would you really want to be limiting your audience in this way. Then as the service would only be available to people with Apple hardware, if your program became a success it wouldn't be a case of someone taking out a subscription to Netflix, Lovefilm, etc. They would actually have to go and by a £100+ device to get it on there TV.
Again, iTunes is available on the PC, so not limited to just Apple hardware. Yes, if they want it on their TV, they would have to purchase the Apple TV, which would be a very big deal to the company selling the Apple TV device, would it not?
I think you are misunderstanding the 'who' is creating content. I am not talking about a studio making content solely for Apple, but Apple owning a studio and producing content for themselves. I am sure many people in the industry would like to be apart of that, aka, working for Apple to do this. I agree, that no one with their own money will, at this point, want to produce entertainment content for Apple exclusively.