As Apple-Samsung trial drags on, jurors deliberate their lunch options

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
More than week into the retrial between Apple and Samsung, jurors are still deliberating how much money to award Apple for patent infringement by Samsung. But the jury has already come to a negative conclusion about their daily sourdough bread sandwiches.

Sourdough
Grilled gorgonzola and apple on sourdough, via Mini Baker.


Jurors this week asked Judge Lucy Koh to grant them new options for lunch after eating sourdough bread for the last week, according to The Wall Street Journal. In a note to Koh, jurors asked for a new lunch order during Thursday's proceedings, with the word "please" underlined three times.

So far, jurors have spent a day and a half deliberating the case, but they have yet to reach a decision. They have been instructed that the award for patent infringement granted to Apple should be between $52 million and $380 million.

The eight-member jury is re-hearing the original case, in which Apple was awarded $1.05 billion. But Koh subsequently reduced the damages award, and ordered the retrial.

Bressler Testimony
Comparison of Apple and Samsung devices. | Source: Apple v. Samsung court documents


As the jury asked for a new lunch option on Wednesday, Samsung asked the court to halt the trial, citing the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's invalidation of a key Apple patent related to the "pinch to zoom" gesture. Apple has been given one day to respond to the motion to stay.

Closing remarks were given by both sides in the trial on Tuesday, setting the stage for the jury's deliberations. Apple's attorneys said the company has a chance to be "made whole" by reinstating $380 million in vacated damages, while Samsung's lawyers argued that Apple exaggerated the importance of the five patents involved in the case.
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  • Reply 1 of 46
    "while Samsung's lawyers argued that Apple exaggerated the importance of the five patents involved in the case"

    Samcrum: try to build a phone without pinch to zoom and see if anybody will buy your shit. Not that with it, your shit stinks less anyway.
  • Reply 2 of 46
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,335member
    This is not boding well for Samsung. Their stall tactic is pissing off the jury... and with sourdough bread sandwiches. There's sort of a poetic ring to that. Samsung is sour about giving up their dough and the jury has to eat it... hmm...
  • Reply 3 of 46
    Sammy O Sammy you guys suck big time. Everything you guys do are just going to backfire at you when more customers like me pledge never to have any product that bares a samsung logo into the house.
    You guys are crooks of the highest degree.
  • Reply 4 of 46
    Next jury note: "Your Honor, we would also like to see the wine menu."
  • Reply 5 of 46
    Judge Koh: You'll get proper food when you release my homeboys from any wrongdoing... Biatches!
  • Reply 6 of 46
    Slow news day or is AI going to bust a nut when the damages award is announced?
  • Reply 7 of 46
    Koh may be the worst judge on the circuit. Reduced damages and a retrial. Samsung admitted to copying Apple. What more do you need. Damages should be all profits made from every phone Samsung has sold with infringing elements.
  • Reply 8 of 46
    We all hear market keeps saying Samsung has big market share and Apple is shrinking . This would be a very strong evidence Samsung hurts Apple very much , so Apple deserves even more rewards.
  • Reply 9 of 46
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     Grilled gorgonzola and apple on sourdough, via Mini Baker.


    That sounds delicious!

  • Reply 10 of 46
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    Originally Posted by mvigod View Post



    Koh may be the worst judge on the circuit. Reduced damages and a retrial. Samsung admitted to copying Apple. What more do you need. Damages should be all profits made from every phone Samsung has sold with infringing elements.

    Now that Samsung attorneys have admitted that the infringement was willful, it should be triple whatever the jury decided. So if the jury decided $100M, which brings the total damage to $700M, should Koh triple that to $2.1 billion?

  • Reply 11 of 46
    Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post

    Judge Koh: You'll get proper food when you release my homeboys from any wrongdoing... Biatches!

     

    Great, now the jury has to figure out who her homeboys are first.

  • Reply 12 of 46
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    Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

     

    That sounds delicious!


    Even truffle-filled, bacon-wrapped steak in cream cheese becomes yucky if you have been having the same thing for a week. I would at least expect a rotating menu for the jurors. Would Koh eat the same thing everyday?

  • Reply 13 of 46
    msuberly wrote: »
    Slow news day or is AI going to bust a nut when the damages award is announced?

    Don't know. Perhaps they already gave their left one for the (red) Mac Pro this Saturday. So they'll likely want to 'hang on' to their right one.
  • Reply 14 of 46
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    On a similar note, I hear one of the members of the Samsung legal team was dismissed after being caught snacking on an Apple in between sessions...
  • Reply 15 of 46
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    Originally Posted by mvigod View Post



    Samsung admitted to copying Apple. What more do you need. Damages should be all profits made from every phone Samsung has sold with infringing elements.

     

    That's pretty muddled thinking.  Suppose Sammy didn't make any profit selling 100 million infringing phones? Then the award to Apple would be zero. It's not only about how much Sammy directly profited by their infringement, but also about how much the infringement cost Apple in lost sales.  As well as less tangible losses, such as negotiating power with carriers, suppliers, advertising outlets, etc., owing to Apple's market share having been reduced.

  • Reply 16 of 46

    The Apples in those lunches better have been pretty tasty, or else the subliminal message to the jurors would have been that "Apple" left a foul taste in their mouth.  Seems really very odd that in a trial about Apple, the jury would be fed a steady diet of apples.

  • Reply 17 of 46
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post



    Next jury note: "Your Honor, we would also like to see the wine menu."

     

    How about some Apple cider, and perhaps some apple pie?

  • Reply 18 of 46
    That sounds delicious!

    Yes it does but not everyday of the week.
  • Reply 19 of 46
    Originally Posted by TeaEarleGreyHot View Post

    How about some Apple cider, and perhaps some apple pie?


     

    Samsung: Your honor! We object! The jury is obviously being biased by the menu! Mistrial!

    Koh: Would you just… *sigh* Fine, whatever. What do you want to put on the menu?

    Samsung: Kimchi and jeotgal.

    Koh: Stenographer, read to the court my earlier statement about crack smoking.

  • Reply 20 of 46
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    Originally Posted by TeaEarleGreyHot View Post

     

     

    That's pretty muddled thinking.  Suppose Sammy didn't make any profit selling 100 million infringing phones? Then the award to Apple would be zero. It's not only about how much Sammy directly profited by their infringement, but also about how much the infringement cost Apple in lost sales.  As well as less tangible losses, such as negotiating power with carriers, suppliers, advertising outlets, etc., owing to Apple's market share having been reduced.


     

    I 100% agree with you.  Excellent point!

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