"Apple has maintained a significant edge outside of the U.S. as well, even before the long-anticipated launch of the company's devices on China Mobile, the world's largest wireless carrier. The iPhone 5s was "by far the top selling smartphone...at most channels where the smartphone launched globally," Walkley notes."
As we've seen, other markets tend to break it down by SKU which can make it look like it's not as popular as it is.
Wow, been reading this site for 5 years, finally decide to post and this is the warm welcome I get…. I love people who hide behind a keyboard!
I’m now sitting between my keyboard and my screen. You are a troll account. Go away.
Originally Posted by glancingaft
However, as a consumer I have a wright to my opinions.
What you don’t have is the right to be listened to or the right to be “correct” regardless of what you say.
2) Yes, I do wish sales were lower, as a monopoly is never a good thing for consumers and Apple is clearly showing this with their lack of hardware and software innovation.
Shut up and go away.
I was wrong I have not been following the site for 5 years.
Who cares? Go back to just following without posting.
I’m now sitting between my keyboard and my screen. You are a troll account. Go away.
What you don’t have is the right to be listened to or the right to be “correct” regardless of what you say.
Shut up and go away.
Who cares? Go back to just following without posting.
And by the guidelines of this forum, which I have not broken I have the right to post as I will, and I will ignore you and continue to post here as I see fit. So please do not tell me to shut up and go away.
2. We don't know the numbers. 5s to S4 could be 2 to 1 for all we know... or it could be 1.1 to 1. Same for the 5c. It would be nice to see some actual numbers.
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Originally Posted by island hermit
Remembering two things:
1. This is US only.
2. We don't know the numbers. 5s to S4 could be 2 to 1 for all we know... or it could be 1.1 to 1. Same for the 5c. It would be nice to see some actual numbers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit
Remembering two things:
1. This is US only.
2. We don't know the numbers. 5s to S4 could be 2 to 1 for all we know... or it could be 1.1 to 1. Same for the 5c. It would be nice to see some actual numbers.
Same BS post as per your norm. Article mentions at US carriers in first line. As always, you will never know the real numbers because Apple never tells, so you may as well make them up like the analyst do.
1) I apologize, I do not work in the technology field so I used the wrong word when I spoke about screen size being a technology. However, as a consumer I have a wright to my opinions.
2) Yes, I do wish sales were lower, as a monopoly is never a good thing for consumers and Apple is clearly showing this with their lack of hardware and software innovation.
3) It took me less than an afternoon to access all of my apple ecosystem with my Nexus 5. with smooth sync I have access to iCloud (Contacts, Calendar, email). With Dropbox and automator setup I am dropping all my pictures into iPhoto without any hitches. I have Airplay working (sort of).
4) You are right though, I was wrong I have not been following the site for 5 years. Doing a quick gmail search I found the first email I sent to a friend. It was in 2005 and in reference to this article, http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1304
1) I apologize for these people.
2) There are trolls on many sites, so some people "smash with club first" and then ask the person if they had any questions.
3) I also wish Apple would have an option for a larger screen, but it's likely an issue of "cost per unit" and supply -- they are trying to keep as few items types as possible for various strategic reasons. I'm not convinced that Apple is always omniscient either ;-)
Same BS post as per your norm. Article mentions at US carriers in first line. As always, you will never know the real numbers because Apple never tells, so you may as well make them up like the analyst do.
Actually, Apple is one of the few companies that posts real data (when they do) and don't make up their specs on speed.
Do we need to mention the HUGE AND BOGUS numbers on Android Tablets, Stuffing the Channel, "in stock numbers" and Samsung never providing "sell through" numbers?
The only thing being said here is the #1 - #3 selling phones. We could also look at how many phones per marketer -- which is another figure entirely. Apple did not create this article BTW -- and why would anyone base sales on what a company states?
Yes, the technology necessary to mass produce large screens in a cost effective way that would still make share holders happy. It's pretty clear with the release of the 5S Apple was more concerned about share values than pushing technology advancement.
Not to pile on, but if you've really been following this forum or even Apple for more than five years you know this: the one thing that can be cited consistently is that Apple works to design the best product with the available technology. Almost every person who has taken the stage at an Apple event has mentioned how the products being announced are designed to enhance the user experience, or provide the best overall tool for the job. It is almost never clear why Apple chose not to include a technology (or measurement), and when they do state a reason it's usually met with howls of derision followed by wholesale adoption within two years. This has been true ever since they dropped their own ADB connection standard, followed by floppy drives, Flash, NFC, et. al.
A frequent poster on these boards has a sig with a Craig Federighi quote that sums it up nicely. If and when Apple uses a larger screen for the iPhone, I'm sure it will not only be right, but better than anything that came before it.
Yes, the technology necessary to mass produce large screens in a cost effective way that would still make share holders happy. It's pretty clear with the release of the 5S Apple was more concerned about share values than pushing technology advancement.
blah...And being that I am a huge Apple fan (Own/Owned 3 Macs, 3 iPhones, 2 Apple TVs, 5 iPods, and 2 iPads) I would gladly buy another iPhone again, it just needs to have a modern screen.
Same BS post as per your norm. Article mentions at US carriers in first line. As always, you will never know the real numbers because Apple never tells, so you may as well make them up like the analyst do.
You must really like me, you quoted me 3 times. Thank you.
2) Yes, I do wish sales were lower, as a monopoly is never a good thing for consumers and Apple is clearly showing this with their lack of hardware and software innovation.
This is a weird non sequitur that collapses under the weight of its own non-logic.
2) Yes, I do wish sales were lower, as a monopoly is never a good thing for consumers and Apple is clearly showing this with their lack of hardware and software innovation.
This is a weird non sequitur that collapses under the weight of its own non-logic.
Indeed. Apple's dominance in a market with many other players (so by definition not a monopoly) arises precisely from consumer choice. If one believes that innovation is of prime importance to consumers, then one would tend to conclude that Apple must be innovating and, in fact, innovating better than the less successful players.
Where's the Moto X? You'd think with all the free advertising it's getting on tech sites it would be in the top three.
Yes, incessant tech web site promotion worked so well for Microsoft's PlaysForSure, for the Zune, for Linux netbooks, for webOS, for Honeycomb Android 3.0 tablets, for Google TV, for Nokia Lumia and Windows Phone, for KIN, for Surface (bathtub, RT, Pro, 2 and Pro 2) and for Nexus (One, S, Galaxy, 4, 5 and 7 and 10).
How is the combined propaganda of Ars Technica, the Verge, CNET and Engadget not turning the Moto X into a moderately successful product!? It's almost as if the tech sites are all ineffectually impotent at telling people what to buy, because the public keeps buying Apple products anyway.
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/161156/apples-iphone-5s-remains-by-far-the-top-selling-smartphone#post_2445871" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span><div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tallest Skil</strong> <a href="/t/161156/apples-iphone-5s-remains-by-far-the-top-selling-smartphone#post_2445871"><img src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" class="inlineimg" alt="View Post"/></a><br/><br/><p> </p><p><span style="line-height:1.4em">So basically you’re psychotic. </span><strong style="font-style:normal; line-height:1.4em">Shut up and go away.</strong></p></div></div><p> </p>
Wow, been reading this site for 5 years, finally decide to post and this is the warm welcome I get....
I love people who hide behind a keyboard!
You show the main signs of a troll account, who would believe this about hoping there sales were worse, you may get your wish next year(your extreme at 5 inch) but don't wish bad on a company for following its previous (successful) path.
It is strange. On TV I see ads for iPhone 5s both reg and gold, iPhone 5c, Moto X and LG G2 non stop. I havent seen an S4 commercial in awhile did they turn down their ad budget lol.
Interesting that advertising the iPhone brand seems to help, while Moto X and LGs G2 are both advertising non-stop (also include Amazon Kindle Fire) but non of those are selling well at all. G2 fell far under expectations at ~2.3M for the quarter, while the Moto X came in at 0.1M.
Samsung seems to move more ads into sponsorships and billboards, but that's isn't having the desired effect one would expect from an ad budget bigger than Apple's.
Also, a lot of Samsung's promotion budget goes to retail promotion and spiffs, which is killing Android alternatives in the low end (don't know what you want? We'll tell you to get a Samsung cause they pay us to!) while having little apparent effect on iPhone buyers.
I guess it's not surprising that the most successful Android licensee is killing Android and plotting to migrate its hardware sales to Tizen rather than advertising "Android" and helping to sell competitors' Android phones.
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As we've seen, other markets tend to break it down by SKU which can make it look like it's not as popular as it is.
I’m now sitting between my keyboard and my screen. You are a troll account. Go away.
However, as a consumer I have a wright to my opinions.
What you don’t have is the right to be listened to or the right to be “correct” regardless of what you say.
Shut up and go away.
Who cares? Go back to just following without posting.
Marketing includes benchmark manipulation. It may work, but it has nothing to do with "truth."
It is when Others offer it. If Apple did it, it would be called a "lack of innovation."
Also, if Apple sells a 5-inch battery hog, the troll accounts will just complain that it's not 5.5 or 6-inches.
I’m now sitting between my keyboard and my screen. You are a troll account. Go away.
What you don’t have is the right to be listened to or the right to be “correct” regardless of what you say.
Shut up and go away.
Who cares? Go back to just following without posting.
And by the guidelines of this forum, which I have not broken I have the right to post as I will, and I will ignore you and continue to post here as I see fit. So please do not tell me to shut up and go away.
Let's not kid ourselves. The US is *the* platinum market. US cachet will make your product. It gets star-power. The other one to do well in is China.
Remembering two things:
1. This is US only.
2. We don't know the numbers. 5s to S4 could be 2 to 1 for all we know... or it could be 1.1 to 1. Same for the 5c. It would be nice to see some actual numbers.
Remembering two things:
1. This is US only.
2. We don't know the numbers. 5s to S4 could be 2 to 1 for all we know... or it could be 1.1 to 1. Same for the 5c. It would be nice to see some actual numbers.
Remembering two things:
1. This is US only.
2. We don't know the numbers. 5s to S4 could be 2 to 1 for all we know... or it could be 1.1 to 1. Same for the 5c. It would be nice to see some actual numbers.
Same BS post as per your norm. Article mentions at US carriers in first line. As always, you will never know the real numbers because Apple never tells, so you may as well make them up like the analyst do.
1) I apologize, I do not work in the technology field so I used the wrong word when I spoke about screen size being a technology. However, as a consumer I have a wright to my opinions.
2) Yes, I do wish sales were lower, as a monopoly is never a good thing for consumers and Apple is clearly showing this with their lack of hardware and software innovation.
3) It took me less than an afternoon to access all of my apple ecosystem with my Nexus 5. with smooth sync I have access to iCloud (Contacts, Calendar, email). With Dropbox and automator setup I am dropping all my pictures into iPhoto without any hitches. I have Airplay working (sort of).
4) You are right though, I was wrong I have not been following the site for 5 years. Doing a quick gmail search I found the first email I sent to a friend. It was in 2005 and in reference to this article, http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1304
1) I apologize for these people.2) There are trolls on many sites, so some people "smash with club first" and then ask the person if they had any questions.
3) I also wish Apple would have an option for a larger screen, but it's likely an issue of "cost per unit" and supply -- they are trying to keep as few items types as possible for various strategic reasons. I'm not convinced that Apple is always omniscient either ;-)
Same BS post as per your norm. Article mentions at US carriers in first line. As always, you will never know the real numbers because Apple never tells, so you may as well make them up like the analyst do.
Actually, Apple is one of the few companies that posts real data (when they do) and don't make up their specs on speed.
Do we need to mention the HUGE AND BOGUS numbers on Android Tablets, Stuffing the Channel, "in stock numbers" and Samsung never providing "sell through" numbers?
The only thing being said here is the #1 - #3 selling phones. We could also look at how many phones per marketer -- which is another figure entirely. Apple did not create this article BTW -- and why would anyone base sales on what a company states?
Yes, the technology necessary to mass produce large screens in a cost effective way that would still make share holders happy. It's pretty clear with the release of the 5S Apple was more concerned about share values than pushing technology advancement.
Not to pile on, but if you've really been following this forum or even Apple for more than five years you know this: the one thing that can be cited consistently is that Apple works to design the best product with the available technology. Almost every person who has taken the stage at an Apple event has mentioned how the products being announced are designed to enhance the user experience, or provide the best overall tool for the job. It is almost never clear why Apple chose not to include a technology (or measurement), and when they do state a reason it's usually met with howls of derision followed by wholesale adoption within two years. This has been true ever since they dropped their own ADB connection standard, followed by floppy drives, Flash, NFC, et. al.
A frequent poster on these boards has a sig with a Craig Federighi quote that sums it up nicely. If and when Apple uses a larger screen for the iPhone, I'm sure it will not only be right, but better than anything that came before it.
You serious? Touch ID, 64 bit A7, M7, etc.
One of the first rules of trolling...
Same BS post as per your norm. Article mentions at US carriers in first line. As always, you will never know the real numbers because Apple never tells, so you may as well make them up like the analyst do.
You must really like me, you quoted me 3 times. Thank you.
This is a weird non sequitur that collapses under the weight of its own non-logic.
2) Yes, I do wish sales were lower, as a monopoly is never a good thing for consumers and Apple is clearly showing this with their lack of hardware and software innovation.
This is a weird non sequitur that collapses under the weight of its own non-logic.
Indeed. Apple's dominance in a market with many other players (so by definition not a monopoly) arises precisely from consumer choice. If one believes that innovation is of prime importance to consumers, then one would tend to conclude that Apple must be innovating and, in fact, innovating better than the less successful players.
Where's the Moto X? You'd think with all the free advertising it's getting on tech sites it would be in the top three.
Yes, incessant tech web site promotion worked so well for Microsoft's PlaysForSure, for the Zune, for Linux netbooks, for webOS, for Honeycomb Android 3.0 tablets, for Google TV, for Nokia Lumia and Windows Phone, for KIN, for Surface (bathtub, RT, Pro, 2 and Pro 2) and for Nexus (One, S, Galaxy, 4, 5 and 7 and 10).
How is the combined propaganda of Ars Technica, the Verge, CNET and Engadget not turning the Moto X into a moderately successful product!? It's almost as if the tech sites are all ineffectually impotent at telling people what to buy, because the public keeps buying Apple products anyway.
It is strange. On TV I see ads for iPhone 5s both reg and gold, iPhone 5c, Moto X and LG G2 non stop. I havent seen an S4 commercial in awhile did they turn down their ad budget lol.
Interesting that advertising the iPhone brand seems to help, while Moto X and LGs G2 are both advertising non-stop (also include Amazon Kindle Fire) but non of those are selling well at all. G2 fell far under expectations at ~2.3M for the quarter, while the Moto X came in at 0.1M.
Samsung seems to move more ads into sponsorships and billboards, but that's isn't having the desired effect one would expect from an ad budget bigger than Apple's.
Also, a lot of Samsung's promotion budget goes to retail promotion and spiffs, which is killing Android alternatives in the low end (don't know what you want? We'll tell you to get a Samsung cause they pay us to!) while having little apparent effect on iPhone buyers.
I guess it's not surprising that the most successful Android licensee is killing Android and plotting to migrate its hardware sales to Tizen rather than advertising "Android" and helping to sell competitors' Android phones.