Almost a jingoism as Apple whining like a little bitch and getting Obama to overturn court decisions which go against them -- all in the name of protecting American "inovations".
fcuk USA, fcuk Apple
obama turned that on his own. and let's be frank- the iPhone turned the tide on phones. hate apple all you want- after 2007 phones changed.
and f USA? you may not like the USA, but it was the USA that got Japan out of your country!
Then I would expect a little intelligent posts, not showing their single-digit IQ. NOT you, Shortest Douche!
I was just trying to tell you not to generalize. However I do understand new posters are sometimes suspicious. After all there is a lot of flame wars going on here since about 2 years.
High resolution screens are purchased by apple not made or developed by them
PCIe SSDs while great were not invented or used exclusively by apple. And note I specifically said that my comment didn't apply to the MacPro
Again did not mean to address the MACPro
A7 SoC is probably the most legitimate claim you made and I do admit it is pretty advanced for a mobile processor.
Ibeacons are NFC like bluetooth devices apple did not invent these they are based on exsisting bluetooth technology
Not a single thing you mentioned besides the A7 was invented by apple. To be honest Samsung has done much more for the display, processor, and hard drive market then apple ever has. Samsung actually invents many of the breakthroughs in these technologies. They don't just purchase them and allow a pretty package to suffice.
I think you've failed to acknowledge the software aspect needed for making new technology works flawlessly. For example; I agree, Apple haven't develop the hi-res Retina LCD panel, many mfg has hi-res LCD for years. But without a smart way to integrate this in the OS its useless, like it currently is for Windows. Same rules apply for many Apple driven technologies like: Dynamic GPU switching, PowerNAP, Lightning port, Airplay, TouchID, A7 64Bit. Apple is currently the only tech company who master hardware and software development as a whole.
For example; I agree, Apple haven't develop the hi-res Retina LCD panel, many mfg has hi-res LCD for years. But without a smart way to integrate this in the OS its useless, like it currently is for Windows.
It's more than Apple just developing SW to properly use the displays, it's Apple actively investing in display manufactures to get their vision created. Apple has lead the consumer market with HiDPI IPS displays well before their competitors were able to compete with Apple for the same technology. Apple's volume has allowed them to reduce the costs but this only happens have other vendors can release in small scale yet Apple is coming to coming to market so early that people are saying "it's not possible with today's tech at current prices and yields" until Apple finally does release their products. This simply can't happen without Apple having their finger on the pulse of at least one company that creates the tech for modern displays. Their jump on their competitors is even more impressive when you take into account what you stated about Apple's HW and SW development as a whole since they very rarely release any new HW or SW without it first having a full integration from start to finish, which is clearly more involved than simply slapping NFC in an Android phone and then expecting someone else to create the SW and ecosystem to make it useful.
Meh, you guys are a little overzealous. I don't think making a metal phone is that crazy of a copying scheme, I can't imagine Apple has the concept of a metal phone all to themselves.
This isn't as blatant as some of their other design decisions.
Meh, you guys are a little overzealous. I don't think making a metal phone is that crazy of a copying scheme, I can't imagine Apple has the concept of a metal phone all to themselves.
This isn't as blatant as some of their other design decisions.
If any other company did it, it wouldn't be an issue. This is Sammy we're talking about. Its MO is copying.
I'm sure you're probably right; however, I think the only non-Apple tablets that existed then were either 10', 7' or smaller, so by extrapolation, Steve Jobs was referring to tablets 7' or smaller.
I'm sure you're probably right; however, I think the only non-Apple tablets that existed then were either 10', 7' or smaller, so by extrapolation, Steve Jobs was referring to tablets 7' or smaller.
The LG G-Slate from back in early 2011 was 8" and sumthin. Think Sammy had one around 8" or so too. The first Android tablets came mid-late 2010 and weren't good. You're right tho that most were either 10" or 7".
Then too of course Jobs was a great salesman. You don't praise what you don't sell. He also said video on an iPod or small flash-based music players were ridiculous too. .. until Apple sold 'em. He also said the Kindle was doomed to fail because "people don't read anymore". That was only valid until Apple introduced iBooks. Guess people began reading again after that. http://www.engadget.com/2004/04/29/steve-jobs-says-it-again-no-video-ipod/
The LG G-Slate from back in early 2011 was 8" and sumthin. Think Sammy had one around 8" or so too. The first Android tablets came mid-late 2010 and weren't good. You're right tho that most were either 10" or 7".
Then too of course Jobs was a great salesman. You don't praise what you don't sell. He also said video on an iPod or small flash-based music players were ridiculous too. .. until Apple sold 'em. He also said the Kindle was doomed to fail because "people don't read anymore". That was only valid until Apple introduced iBooks. Guess people began reading again after that. http://www.engadget.com/2004/04/29/steve-jobs-says-it-again-no-video-ipod/
And they were 16:9. And they only ran smartphone apps. It doesn't take a great salesman to see that those DoA. Jobs was right and they would have failed regardless of him saying they would.
Jobs said he was wrong about watching videos on an iPod. He didn't see the utility in it, but he's not the only one at Apple.
And they were 16:9. And they only ran smartphone apps. It doesn't take a great salesman to see that those DoA. Jobs was right and they would have failed regardless of him saying they would.
Jobs said he was wrong about watching videos on an iPod. He didn't see the utility in it, but he's not the only one at Apple.
A 16:9 mobile device isn't necessarily doomed to failure is it? In fact I think the 16:9 version of a previously "perfect 4:3 ratio" mobile device has probably been the better seller.
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Almost a jingoism as Apple whining like a little bitch and getting Obama to overturn court decisions which go against them -- all in the name of protecting American "inovations".
fcuk USA, fcuk Apple
obama turned that on his own. and let's be frank- the iPhone turned the tide on phones. hate apple all you want- after 2007 phones changed.
and f USA? you may not like the USA, but it was the USA that got Japan out of your country!
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New posters are often long time readers!
Then I would expect a little intelligent posts, not showing their single-digit IQ. NOT you, Shortest Douche!
Then I would expect a little intelligent posts, not showing their single-digit IQ. NOT you, Shortest Douche!
I was just trying to tell you not to generalize. However I do understand new posters are sometimes suspicious. After all there is a lot of flame wars going on here since about 2 years.
Fair point; my dumb.
No, he said all tablets smaller than ~10 inches.
So you missed the username, Phil? Report!
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Cmd-C, Cmd-V...without looking, so yeah
Apple doesnt make any of these products.
High resolution screens are purchased by apple not made or developed by them
PCIe SSDs while great were not invented or used exclusively by apple. And note I specifically said that my comment didn't apply to the MacPro
Again did not mean to address the MACPro
A7 SoC is probably the most legitimate claim you made and I do admit it is pretty advanced for a mobile processor.
Ibeacons are NFC like bluetooth devices apple did not invent these they are based on exsisting bluetooth technology
Not a single thing you mentioned besides the A7 was invented by apple. To be honest Samsung has done much more for the display, processor, and hard drive market then apple ever has. Samsung actually invents many of the breakthroughs in these technologies. They don't just purchase them and allow a pretty package to suffice.
I think you've failed to acknowledge the software aspect needed for making new technology works flawlessly. For example; I agree, Apple haven't develop the hi-res Retina LCD panel, many mfg has hi-res LCD for years. But without a smart way to integrate this in the OS its useless, like it currently is for Windows. Same rules apply for many Apple driven technologies like: Dynamic GPU switching, PowerNAP, Lightning port, Airplay, TouchID, A7 64Bit. Apple is currently the only tech company who master hardware and software development as a whole.
It's more than Apple just developing SW to properly use the displays, it's Apple actively investing in display manufactures to get their vision created. Apple has lead the consumer market with HiDPI IPS displays well before their competitors were able to compete with Apple for the same technology. Apple's volume has allowed them to reduce the costs but this only happens have other vendors can release in small scale yet Apple is coming to coming to market so early that people are saying "it's not possible with today's tech at current prices and yields" until Apple finally does release their products. This simply can't happen without Apple having their finger on the pulse of at least one company that creates the tech for modern displays. Their jump on their competitors is even more impressive when you take into account what you stated about Apple's HW and SW development as a whole since they very rarely release any new HW or SW without it first having a full integration from start to finish, which is clearly more involved than simply slapping NFC in an Android phone and then expecting someone else to create the SW and ecosystem to make it useful.
16 megapixel camera
Depending on the battery life I may need to make a pass on the HTC M8 and cop this.
Expensive though.
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Meh, you guys are a little overzealous. I don't think making a metal phone is that crazy of a copying scheme, I can't imagine Apple has the concept of a metal phone all to themselves.
This isn't as blatant as some of their other design decisions.
If any other company did it, it wouldn't be an issue. This is Sammy we're talking about. Its MO is copying.
I'm sure you're probably right; however, I think the only non-Apple tablets that existed then were either 10', 7' or smaller, so by extrapolation, Steve Jobs was referring to tablets 7' or smaller.
I thought a post from someone else was you. And the S4 got a bigger display while also having less volume then the S3
The S4 didn't lead the way in screen size it was several generations in.
Is the S4 active also smaller?
The LG G-Slate from back in early 2011 was 8" and sumthin. Think Sammy had one around 8" or so too. The first Android tablets came mid-late 2010 and weren't good. You're right tho that most were either 10" or 7".
Then too of course Jobs was a great salesman. You don't praise what you don't sell. He also said video on an iPod or small flash-based music players were ridiculous too. .. until Apple sold 'em. He also said the Kindle was doomed to fail because "people don't read anymore". That was only valid until Apple introduced iBooks. Guess people began reading again after that.
http://www.engadget.com/2004/04/29/steve-jobs-says-it-again-no-video-ipod/
And they were 16:9. And they only ran smartphone apps. It doesn't take a great salesman to see that those DoA. Jobs was right and they would have failed regardless of him saying they would.
Jobs said he was wrong about watching videos on an iPod. He didn't see the utility in it, but he's not the only one at Apple.
A 16:9 mobile device isn't necessarily doomed to failure is it? In fact I think the 16:9 version of a previously "perfect 4:3 ratio" mobile device has probably been the better seller.