Apple offers Samsung patent settlement deal tied to anti-cloning provision

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  • Reply 81 of 138
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Um... look at the picture in the story. Again. And again…. Until you get it.

    Are you saying that the phones in the 'before' weren't smartphones? Yes they lacked some functionality but they still were smartphones. That's like saying CRT TVs weren't televisions, because of the current crop of TVs are so much better.

    If you think the pre-iPhone 'smart'phones were similar to the iPhone in the way that CRTs are similar to flat-panel TVs, I really don't know where to start.
  • Reply 82 of 138
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post



    When you're on the classification committee let me know.



     


    I'm in the classification committee.


     


    Would you classify my classification something you need me to clarify for you?


     


    ;)
  • Reply 84 of 138
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post



    Now show me where no other phone caused a 'design in crisis' at Samsung, because that's the claim you made.

     

  • Reply 85 of 138
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    If you think the pre-iPhone 'smart'phones were similar to the iPhone in the way that CRTs are similar to flat-panel TVs, I really don't know where to start.

    Flat panel TVs are far more complex and have much more technology in them compared to a CRT than a iPhone has to those older smartphones.
  • Reply 86 of 138
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
  • Reply 87 of 138
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Ok and where did the designs for the 'before' Samsung smartphones come from? Did Samsung invent the keyboard form factor?

    Just before we proceed, I've answered many of your previous points but I don't appear to be able to locate your posts conceding them.

    Would you be able to assist me in locating them?

    ;)
  • Reply 88 of 138
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    gtr wrote: »
    Just before we proceed, I've answered many of your previous points but I don't appear to be able to locate your posts conceding them.

    Would you be able to assist me in locating them?

    ;)

    You showed me what I already knew, that the iPhone caused a 'crisis of design' at Samsung, that point I concede, but how do you know that no other phone ever did that? Just because they admitted to one doesn't mean it hasn't happened before. Now if you have a link proving that then I'd like to see it.
  • Reply 89 of 138
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    You showed me what I already knew, that the iPhone caused a 'crisis of design' at Samsung, that point I concede...

    If you already knew the iPhone caused a crisis of design at Samsung then why did you make post 77?
  • Reply 90 of 138
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Now if you have a link proving that then I'd like to see it.

    See post 85.
  • Reply 91 of 138
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,628member
    FWIW the Motorola Razr probably caused a crisis in design too. Sammy came up with the Sync clone. Then the Moto Q may have caused yet another. Yup, Sammy rushed out the Blackjack.. It's nothing new nor is it unexpected that they'd find more inspiration in the iPhone. Personally I'm surprised if Apple didn't anticipate it considering past history.
  • Reply 92 of 138
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    ...that point I concede...

    You don't appear to have conceded post 73 either.

    Unless of course, you do believe a phone that constantly sacrifices display for input method is 'smart'.
  • Reply 93 of 138
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    gtr wrote: »
    If you already knew the iPhone caused a crisis of design at Samsung then why did you make post 77?

    You said none of those phones ever caused a crisis in design? I asked you how did you know that. We're all aware of what was said regarding the iPhone, so where did you read anything regarding any other phone?
  • Reply 94 of 138
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    FWIW the Motorola Razr probably caused a crisis in design too. Sammy came up with the Sync clone. Then the Moto Q may have caused yet another. Yup, Sammy rushed out the Blackjack.. It's nothing new nor is it unexpected that they'd find more inspiration in the iPhone.

    Do we have any documentation confirming a 'crisis of design' (or something similar) from the head of their mobile division, or did they just copy it?
  • Reply 95 of 138
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    When you're on the classification committee let me know.

    Well how to analysts classify a smartphone? Are they on this committee?
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    And you know this how?

    Easy, Sammy did not introduce any evidence that they had a 132 page slide deck on the blackberry and countless other designs they stole.
  • Reply 96 of 138
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    gtr wrote: »
    You don't appear to have conceded post 73 either.

    Unless of course, you do believe a phone that constantly sacrifices display for input method is 'smart'.

    So now you believe it was good for other smartphones to become touchscreen? Make up your mind.
  • Reply 97 of 138
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,628member
    gtr wrote: »
    Do we have any documentation confirming a 'crisis of design' (or something similar) from the head of their mobile division, or did they just copy it?

    Had Motorola sued them it might have been produced then too. It was only revealed to Apple via discovery.
  • Reply 98 of 138
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jungmark wrote: »
    Easy, Sammy did not introduce any evidence that they had a 132 page slide deck on the blackberry and countless other designs they stole.

    Ahh so there could've been a 'crisis in design' over at Samsung when keyboard designs first came out. Thanks for affirming that for me.
  • Reply 99 of 138
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    gtr wrote: »
    Do we have any documentation confirming a 'crisis of design' (or something similar) from the head of their mobile division, or did they just copy it?

    There's no documentation either for or against, but you're the one making the claim for against.
  • Reply 100 of 138
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Ahh so there could've been a 'crisis in design' over at Samsung when keyboard designs first came out. Thanks for affirming that for me.

    How so. Sammy probably just copied and pasted. And didn't compare and contrast like they did with the iPhone.

    Simply copying does not mean "crisis in design".
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