Apple may be working on a gaming-focused update for the set-top box.
What the heck is a "set-top box"?
Okay, I'm old enough to know what it is, but the term is an anachronism just like me. It has no value as a metaphor now, given the virtual impossibility of balancing anything on top of a modern flat-panel television. Can't they please find a new term for it?
Okay, I'm old enough to know what it is, but the term is an anachronism just like me. It has no value as a metaphor now, given the virtual impossibility of balancing anything on top of a modern flat-panel television. Can't they please find a new term for it?
Excellent observation. I'm sure you are you are not an anachronism though ...
“Setside box” sounds either Japanese or irrelevant and “underset box” would be hard to actually build, given that TVs are approaching 50 pounds and engineering would be wasted and the design compromised on such things.
I really don’t think it matters. It’s just another anachronistic term among thousands in the English language.
Apple's $360 million acquisition of Israeli computer vision startup PrimeSense is also seen as a stepping stone toward a new Apple TV product. Many Apple watchers believe PrimeSense's gesture recognition technology would form the basis of a new method of interacting with the product.
Monday's promotion could be a sign that such an update is imminent. A new rumor from 9to5Mac suggests that this is the case, and that Apple may be planning to combine the Apple TV with the AirPort Express wireless router which last saw a refresh in 2012.
1. Apple only bought PrimeSense a few months ago. Big acquisitions like that take Apple years to flesh out and make into an Apple product.
2. The idea of the AppleTV also being a full blown dual-band 802.11ac AirExport Express would be a HUGE plus in my opinion. HUGE.
They should definitely use a Bluetooth LE remote with the original iPod click where. That would rock. But I suspect they have something else up their sleeve!
I wonder if Siri would be able to hear me shouting 'Turn the volume down!' over Led Zeppelin at full volume?
I hear you on the sync. I always explain to guests that the fractional delay between Apple TV's (on during house parties), is a deliberate effect to add 3D depth to the music ...
I had wondered what streaming would be like with two Apple TV. I'm guessing there's about a 10ms latency between the streams. Wonder if the Apple TV 4th Gen will use the new Broadcom WICED stuff that sends sync data in the wifi packets.
imagine being able to have accurate sync of audio to video with Airplay speakers. I also think that having a HDMI pass through would make integration even easier. I spend a majority of my time switching between my cable-box and Apple TV. Not having to switch inputs would make a pretty big impact in how I view content.
I don't have any problems with the remote, how far away are you using it? The next room?
I wish I could! Give me a Wi-Fi Apple TV Remote please. When I have an Apple TV playing music very loud over the Hi-Fi system and I am in another room and the phone rings or FedEx are at the door with yet another box from Amazon, heck yes I'd like to be able to hit pause, mute or at least lower the volume with a remote from wherever I am.
Sounds like you want an AppleTV with automatic:
audio ducking
video pause
squelch circuits
It's kinda' odd...
But my late father and his older brother were fiddling with this kind of stuff in the 1950 - 1960 era.
Maybe it's time for a 21st-century AV Cap'n Crunch
it could just be they want to highlight the product more due to the decline in iPod sales, and I'm sure what must be lower numbers of visitors to that part of the site. The rumours regarding the refresh are rather intriguing though........
Here's my wish list for Apple TV ... and I think we will see these implemented sooner, rather than later. ... Some storage space, doesn't have to be massive, say 30-60 gigs would suffice, but the bigger, the better, if they can still be in the current price range. ... 64 bit processor ... if they can have that in an iPhone and iPad .. why not Apple TV ... a better remote (a cheap iPod Touch could be the basis for a fantastic remote) a dedicated App Store for Apple TV ... think of all the gaming possibilities with a product and services that this Apple TV would bring about. Hell, it might even be good enough to make the "analyst expert's" heads to explode ... that alone would be enough to bring it on.
Some storage space, doesn't have to be massive, say 30-60 gigs would suffice, but the bigger, the better, if they can still be in the current price range.
It’s a streaming device. There won’t be internal storage increases. It has 8GB now to buffer an entire HD movie at once. Other than that they don’t care.
... 64 bit processor...
I’d love something that does hardware decoding of h.265. That would be great.
…why not Apple TV…
Not really needed, is all.
… a better remote…
Apple Remote. Want better, use your iOS device.
…a dedicated App Store for Apple TV…
Channels. No need for apps.
And if it has the “router built in” like one rumor says, that cuts in half the latency between the streamed game from the iOS controller playing on it.
I don't have any problems with the remote, how far away are you using it? The next room?
I wish I could! Give me a Wi-Fi Apple TV Remote please. When I have an Apple TV playing music very loud over the Hi-Fi system and I am in another room and the phone rings or FedEx are at the door with yet another box from Amazon, heck yes I'd like to be able to hit pause, mute or at least lower the volume with a remote from wherever I am.
Sounds like you want an AppleTV with automatic:
audio ducking
video pause
squelch circuits
It's kinda' odd...
But my late father and his older brother were fiddling with this kind of stuff in the 1950 - 1960 era.
Maybe it's time for a 21st-century AV Cap'n Crunch
Edit: It occurs to me that Apple already has Automatic Audio Ducking -- in iMovie on the Mac, and in iOS when using the 'phone"
Have to wonder just a bit if this new high-powered Apple TV might not morph into the much-rumored "iTV" minus the screen? And that there would be no other monolithic iTV as such?
2 cents - New Apple TV launching via a Superbowl ad - its so perfect, with Ridley's iconic sledge in 94 - Apple will use the media itself in a clever launch
I don't know what you are talking about. It's a bad TV experience. I know John Gruber doesn't like the remote app either. The whole thing is too fiddly. It needs to be hardware.
I continue to find the Apple Remote App woeful. The UI is uninviting, it's laggy, glitchy, etc. And it's not just my Wifi router. It really needs some love. I can only hope that it hasn't been updated because something much better in the works. This seems like a familiar Apple move-having the current "just good enough" product (Remote app) as a placeholder for a product still in development.
AppleTV with: [LIST] [*] PrimeSense motion detection (Kinect equivalent)... [*] Siri Voice/Sound recognition... [*] App to control Hue Lights... [*] Ravel's Bolero streamed to the HiFi... [*] You and your significant other on the couch... [/LIST]
Hate the navigation buttons on the remote. Too easy to mis hit. I like the design/feel of the remote.
My biggest issue that when Airplaying from my brand new iMac to my brand new appletv via my brand new Airport extreme (all direct wired), the mouse on the iMac becomes extremely unresponsive.
It's tolerable when playing a movie but would be useless for any sort of interactive presentation. A reboot solves the issue for a short period and it reappears again fairly quickly.
You may actually have a network issue. If your iMac and the Apple TV are both connected via ethernet cable, make sure that neither is also connected via wifi at the same time. Also make sure you don't have any weird loops in your network, like a cable from one port back to another port on the same router. Weird stuff like that can cause network traffic chaos that you can't see other than some devices on the network will get "busier" dealing with network stuff, causing other things to slow down, like UI response.
Sadly this Boxee remote will not work with the Apple TV :-(
Looks like a nice remote. For me the Apple one is just too small and the app is too sensitive and slow to get going when you are watching. The only thing I would change on the Boxee one would be to put the three front buttons in a horizontal row so there is no need to change grip to press the buttons.
On another note - how long before 'shop iPod' will disappear?
I've been living with Apple TVs about 3 years now and the main complaint i've got about it is boy do I hate that included remote. While the remote looks nice and makes a great first impression, the initial "wow it's so tiny, and it's aluminium" honeymoon period eventually wears off and the grim reality of the fact that it not only is crappy old IR technology, but additionally has a miserably-narrow and somewhat weak signal band for an IR remote sets in.
And don't get me started on that "remote app". By the time I've actually gotten the app opened I'm bored. Apple needs to produce a decent bluetooth keyboard remote. And I'm mean ASAP! And no, I'm not talking about Apple's bluetooth keyboard on my sofa or ottoman. I'm talking about something along the lines of this:
Even as an optional extra I'd buy something like this in a heartbeat. Perhaps this is a good Kickstarted project for someone? Because if I knew the first thing to do and had the facilities I'd be producing the blasted thing. Sadly this Boxee remote will not work with the Apple TV :-(
Hate the navigation buttons on the remote. Too easy to mis hit. I like the design/feel of the remote.
My biggest issue that when Airplaying from my brand new iMac to my brand new appletv via my brand new Airport extreme (all direct wired), the mouse on the iMac becomes extremely unresponsive.
It's tolerable when playing a movie but would be useless for any sort of interactive presentation. A reboot solves the issue for a short period and it reappears again fairly quickly.
Have you tried programming your cable/satellite/TV remote? I've recently programmed my DirecTV remote and it works great.
Comments
What the heck is a "set-top box"?
Okay, I'm old enough to know what it is, but the term is an anachronism just like me. It has no value as a metaphor now, given the virtual impossibility of balancing anything on top of a modern flat-panel television. Can't they please find a new term for it?
Excellent observation. I'm sure you are you are not an anachronism though ...
Perhaps a blow-out advertisement spot on Superbowl Sunday? .... "
It HAS been 30 years....
What the heck is a "set-top box"?
“Setside box” sounds either Japanese or irrelevant and “underset box” would be hard to actually build, given that TVs are approaching 50 pounds and engineering would be wasted and the design compromised on such things.
I really don’t think it matters. It’s just another anachronistic term among thousands in the English language.
Apple's $360 million acquisition of Israeli computer vision startup PrimeSense is also seen as a stepping stone toward a new Apple TV product. Many Apple watchers believe PrimeSense's gesture recognition technology would form the basis of a new method of interacting with the product.
Monday's promotion could be a sign that such an update is imminent. A new rumor from 9to5Mac suggests that this is the case, and that Apple may be planning to combine the Apple TV with the AirPort Express wireless router which last saw a refresh in 2012.
1. Apple only bought PrimeSense a few months ago. Big acquisitions like that take Apple years to flesh out and make into an Apple product.
2. The idea of the AppleTV also being a full blown dual-band 802.11ac AirExport Express would be a HUGE plus in my opinion. HUGE.
I wonder if Siri would be able to hear me shouting 'Turn the volume down!' over Led Zeppelin at full volume?
I hear you on the sync. I always explain to guests that the fractional delay between Apple TV's (on during house parties), is a deliberate effect to add 3D depth to the music ...
I had wondered what streaming would be like with two Apple TV. I'm guessing there's about a 10ms latency between the streams. Wonder if the Apple TV 4th Gen will use the new Broadcom WICED stuff that sends sync data in the wifi packets.
imagine being able to have accurate sync of audio to video with Airplay speakers. I also think that having a HDMI pass through would make integration even easier. I spend a majority of my time switching between my cable-box and Apple TV. Not having to switch inputs would make a pretty big impact in how I view content.
Sounds like you want an AppleTV with automatic:
It's kinda' odd...
But my late father and his older brother were fiddling with this kind of stuff in the 1950 - 1960 era.
Maybe it's time for a 21st-century AV Cap'n Crunch
it could just be they want to highlight the product more due to the decline in iPod sales, and I'm sure what must be lower numbers of visitors to that part of the site. The rumours regarding the refresh are rather intriguing though........
Here's my wish list for Apple TV ... and I think we will see these implemented sooner, rather than later. ... Some storage space, doesn't have to be massive, say 30-60 gigs would suffice, but the bigger, the better, if they can still be in the current price range. ... 64 bit processor ... if they can have that in an iPhone and iPad .. why not Apple TV ... a better remote (a cheap iPod Touch could be the basis for a fantastic remote) a dedicated App Store for Apple TV ... think of all the gaming possibilities with a product and services that this Apple TV would bring about. Hell, it might even be good enough to make the "analyst expert's" heads to explode ... that alone would be enough to bring it on.
It’s a streaming device. There won’t be internal storage increases. It has 8GB now to buffer an entire HD movie at once. Other than that they don’t care.
I’d love something that does hardware decoding of h.265. That would be great.
Not really needed, is all.
Apple Remote. Want better, use your iOS device.
Channels. No need for apps.
And if it has the “router built in” like one rumor says, that cuts in half the latency between the streamed game from the iOS controller playing on it.
"Router built in" meaning that they're sticking an Airport Express in with the Apple TV?
Good stuff if so, always thought it'd be handy for the AppleTV to extend the wireless.
Edit: It occurs to me that Apple already has Automatic Audio Ducking -- in iMovie on the Mac, and in iOS when using the 'phone"
Have to wonder just a bit if this new high-powered Apple TV might not morph into the much-rumored "iTV" minus the screen? And that there would be no other monolithic iTV as such?
2 cents - New Apple TV launching via a Superbowl ad - its so perfect, with Ridley's iconic sledge in 94 - Apple will use the media itself in a clever launch
I don't know what you are talking about. It's a bad TV experience. I know John Gruber doesn't like the remote app either. The whole thing is too fiddly. It needs to be hardware.
I continue to find the Apple Remote App woeful. The UI is uninviting, it's laggy, glitchy, etc. And it's not just my Wifi router. It really needs some love. I can only hope that it hasn't been updated because something much better in the works. This seems like a familiar Apple move-having the current "just good enough" product (Remote app) as a placeholder for a product still in development.
AppleTV with:
[LIST]
[*] PrimeSense motion detection (Kinect equivalent)...
[*] Siri Voice/Sound recognition...
[*] App to control Hue Lights...
[*] Ravel's Bolero streamed to the HiFi...
[*] You and your significant other on the couch...
[/LIST]
...What an amazing fucking experience
[VIDEO]
Hate the navigation buttons on the remote. Too easy to mis hit. I like the design/feel of the remote.
My biggest issue that when Airplaying from my brand new iMac to my brand new appletv via my brand new Airport extreme (all direct wired), the mouse on the iMac becomes extremely unresponsive.
It's tolerable when playing a movie but would be useless for any sort of interactive presentation. A reboot solves the issue for a short period and it reappears again fairly quickly.
You may actually have a network issue. If your iMac and the Apple TV are both connected via ethernet cable, make sure that neither is also connected via wifi at the same time. Also make sure you don't have any weird loops in your network, like a cable from one port back to another port on the same router. Weird stuff like that can cause network traffic chaos that you can't see other than some devices on the network will get "busier" dealing with network stuff, causing other things to slow down, like UI response.
Sadly this Boxee remote will not work with the Apple TV :-(
Looks like a nice remote. For me the Apple one is just too small and the app is too sensitive and slow to get going when you are watching. The only thing I would change on the Boxee one would be to put the three front buttons in a horizontal row so there is no need to change grip to press the buttons.
On another note - how long before 'shop iPod' will disappear?
Have you tried programming your cable/satellite/TV remote? I've recently programmed my DirecTV remote and it works great.