i bought a GE and a 4 function RCA universal remote and its soooooo easy to program just have to make sure the universal remote has dvr buttons to take advantage of the full tav settings. THEY WORK GREAT
I think because there hasn't been as much of an incentive. Infinity Blade is a solid game on a technical level that shows the capabilities of the platform. I think that if Apple really does want to do gaming on the TV, developers will have an incentive to push the limits beyond Angry Birds when it comes to casual gaming and a bit more intense games like Infinity Blade. Although is memory serves, Infinity Blade was actually quite lucrative for chair.
I'm not much of a gamer anymore and I know that launch titles on consoles aren't really indicative of where the platform is going, but I remember seeing that a somewhat casual game, Resogun, was getting a lot of love on the PS4 at launch. I think there is a huge market for casual games on the TV, not looking at Nintendo's issues with the Wii U, which hasn't done as well for a variety of reasons.
I agree but casual games on a console and one on a mobile device are quite different.
Another possible reason to split out the Apple TV from the iPod section is that perhaps the iPod section will be phased out at some point in the not-so-distant future...
I agree but casual games on a console and one on a mobile device are quite different.
I completely agree but I also think the target demographics are different to an extent. I would equate it to someone that owns an iPhone or iPod touch instead of a PSP (not including those that own both as they are outliers in my opinion). Those that are interested in playing games on iOS might not really be interested in the PSP. I wouldn't be surprised if the hits Nintendo has been taking with the 3DS is in large part due to gaming on iOS and even Android.
I also think the barrier of entry to develop on iOS is lower. From what I've been hearing is that Microsoft and Sony have come around a bit to smaller developers and casual gaming by making it easier to release on their platforms but I think the entire Apple ecosystem is ahead of the game, no pun intended. Developing and releasing content on the App Store is for the most part, straightforward. We have also seen that both Apple and developers are willing to do iOS exclusives or initially release on iOS versus rival platforms, and I think that if Apple makes a play for gaming in the living room, we will see more of them.
The biggest feature needed is so I can turn on my HDTV and it goes direct to Apple TV -- need better integration with TV manufacturers!
From what I can recall, the NFL is married to DirecTV for now. I think negotiations have been going on since last year for when the contract expires. It's probably one of the biggest sports distribution contracts that goes up and it's a multi-billion, multi-year agreement.
So it can have a plethora of in-app purchases that ultimately make it more expensive? I'd rather pay the full nut once than get nickel and dimed to death. I'm not doubting that they can make a decent gaming device but would it disrupt the console market? Maybe, but they're doing a fine job disrupting themselves.
In Denmark, FIFA 14 on iOS costs 1/15 of the console version, with the game features unlocked. Truth is that consoles are cheap, but console games are very expensive.
All that could be changed by an Apple TV at the right price point. It'll never run my fav game (WoW), but casual gaming on my biiig Samsung LED TV? Yes please!
First I would like apple to become my TV subscription service offer alacart programming time warner will never do that
Apple TV with and with out express when I got my new time capsule it improved house coverage I don't need an additional router also don't wireless extenders cut the speed by 1/2??
Make it 64 bit and push higher end games
Improve interface throughout
Give BT access to headsets to help assesibility
Second input with DVr for over the air broadcast I'd cut the cable and get an hd antenna
We've been talking about the living room and playing games on the AppleTV.... Maybe even some multiplayer games on the AppleTV using our iPads or iPhones as game controllers/mirrors.
Think about that, a multiplayer game using AirPlay and iDevices as controllers/mirrors -- is a form of [B][I]collaboration.[/I][/B]
We may be ignoring the elephant in the room!
For AppleTV, the elephant in the room may be the room itself
Think about collaboration in the classroom, meeting room, lunchroom, boardroom, lecture room, operating room, examination room…
It's been a while, but the last time I looked -- most classrooms have a TV. What if those classroom TVs had an AppleTV with apps that let the teacher and the students collaborate with their iPads.
The same thing goes for all the other rooms listed above…
I suspect that there is [B][I][COLOR=blue]rooms[/COLOR][/I][/B] for Apple to sell hundreds of millions of AppleTVs.
Okay, I'm old enough to know what it is, but the term is an anachronism just like me. It has no value as a metaphor now, given the virtual impossibility of balancing anything on top of a modern flat-panel television. Can't they please find a new term for it?
To reiterate what another poster said, our language is literally laced with archaic terminology. Probably half of the terms you use on a daily basis are archaic in origin, but the meaning has evolved with the times. So for example, I suspect your phone no longer has a rotary dial on it, but we still use the term "dial" to refer to entering a number on a phone to make a call. Better yet, I suspect that you do not have to use a whip to drive a team of horses or oxen pulling your car, but we still refer to the person operating the car as the "driver."
I've been living with Apple TVs about 3 years now and the main complaint i've got about it is boy do I hate that included remote. While the remote looks nice and makes a great first impression, the initial "wow it's so tiny, and it's aluminium" honeymoon period eventually wears off and the grim reality of the fact that it not only is crappy old IR technology, but additionally has a miserably-narrow and somewhat weak signal band for an IR remote sets in.
And don't get me started on that "remote app". By the time I've actually gotten the app opened I'm bored. Apple needs to produce a decent bluetooth keyboard remote. And I'm mean ASAP! And no, I'm not talking about Apple's bluetooth keyboard on my sofa or ottoman. I'm talking about something along the lines of this:
Even as an optional extra I'd buy something like this in a heartbeat. Perhaps this is a good Kickstarted project for someone? Because if I knew the first thing to do and had the facilities I'd be producing the blasted thing. Sadly this Boxee remote will not work with the Apple TV :-(
I use my Harmony universal remote to control my entire system, including the AppleTV. Having multiple remotes is a pain-in-the-rear even if each remote is designed as well as it could be (which they usually aren't). I anticipate that Apple is headed in a similar direction (reducing the number of remotes you need for total system control down to just one or none) so I wouldn't expect to see them do much with regard to improving that silly little remote that comes with the AppleTV. I think that within a year we will be much happier with whatever solution replaces it.
… Crap, nothing. I figured the MacBook lines and the AirPort family would have the subcategory, but, uh… they don’t. Oh well. I still find it interesting, since it’s not needed for ONE product being sold.
… Crap, nothing. I figured the MacBook lines and the AirPort family would have the subcategory, but, uh… they don’t. Oh well. I still find it interesting, since it’s not needed for ONE product being sold.
Ha, good catch. I love my Apple TV, and I'd love it even more if I have a family of devices to choose from.
We've been talking about the living room and playing games on the AppleTV.... Maybe even some multiplayer games on the AppleTV using our iPads or iPhones as game controllers/mirrors.
Think about that, a multiplayer game using AirPlay and iDevices as controllers/mirrors -- is a form of collaboration.
We may be ignoring the elephant in the room!
For AppleTV, the elephant in the room may be the room itself
Think about collaboration in the classroom, meeting room, lunchroom, boardroom, lecture room, operating room, examination room…
It's been a while, but the last time I looked -- most classrooms have a TV. What if those classroom TVs had an AppleTV with apps that let the teacher and the students collaborate with their iPads.
The same thing goes for all the other rooms listed above…
I suspect that there is rooms for Apple to sell hundreds of millions of AppleTVs.
I am in Pro AV, and I see quite a few AppleTVs in meeting rooms, and even construction trailers during the process of getting facilities built. It's a great way to put up PDF plans on a projector from an iPad for collaboration purposes. Obviously, not everyone has MacBooks out there, but there are certain companies that have enough users with MacBooks to further justify having some ATVs on hand for a cheap and easy way to wirelessly connect to a projector. Right now, I'm not so sure all the tools are there for larger deployments in the enterprise, or classrooms for that matter (how would one manage hundreds of ATVs in a facility?), but if anyone out there has some suggestions, I'd like to hear them.
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as far as the remote
i bought a GE and a 4 function RCA universal remote and its soooooo easy to program just have to make sure the universal remote has dvr buttons to take advantage of the full tav settings. THEY WORK GREAT
the apple remote is way cool but way easy to lose
I am sure that's why gaming is HUGE on AppleTV.
Fair point.
I agree but casual games on a console and one on a mobile device are quite different.
Another possible reason to split out the Apple TV from the iPod section is that perhaps the iPod section will be phased out at some point in the not-so-distant future...
I agree but casual games on a console and one on a mobile device are quite different.
I completely agree but I also think the target demographics are different to an extent. I would equate it to someone that owns an iPhone or iPod touch instead of a PSP (not including those that own both as they are outliers in my opinion). Those that are interested in playing games on iOS might not really be interested in the PSP. I wouldn't be surprised if the hits Nintendo has been taking with the 3DS is in large part due to gaming on iOS and even Android.
I also think the barrier of entry to develop on iOS is lower. From what I've been hearing is that Microsoft and Sony have come around a bit to smaller developers and casual gaming by making it easier to release on their platforms but I think the entire Apple ecosystem is ahead of the game, no pun intended. Developing and releasing content on the App Store is for the most part, straightforward. We have also seen that both Apple and developers are willing to do iOS exclusives or initially release on iOS versus rival platforms, and I think that if Apple makes a play for gaming in the living room, we will see more of them.
Great, but how about NFL, so we can stream the SuperBowl and then the whole season? American College Football would be nice too...
I want the Speed2 channel too! http://www.speed2.com
The biggest feature needed is so I can turn on my HDTV and it goes direct to Apple TV -- need better integration with TV manufacturers!
From what I can recall, the NFL is married to DirecTV for now. I think negotiations have been going on since last year for when the contract expires. It's probably one of the biggest sports distribution contracts that goes up and it's a multi-billion, multi-year agreement.
In Denmark, FIFA 14 on iOS costs 1/15 of the console version, with the game features unlocked. Truth is that consoles are cheap, but console games are very expensive.
All that could be changed by an Apple TV at the right price point. It'll never run my fav game (WoW), but casual gaming on my biiig Samsung LED TV? Yes please!
Apple TV with and with out express when I got my new time capsule it improved house coverage I don't need an additional router also don't wireless extenders cut the speed by 1/2??
Make it 64 bit and push higher end games
Improve interface throughout
Give BT access to headsets to help assesibility
Second input with DVr for over the air broadcast
I'd cut the cable and get an hd antenna
We've been talking about the living room and playing games on the AppleTV.... Maybe even some multiplayer games on the AppleTV using our iPads or iPhones as game controllers/mirrors.
Think about that, a multiplayer game using AirPlay and iDevices as controllers/mirrors -- is a form of [B][I]collaboration.[/I][/B]
We may be ignoring the elephant in the room!
For AppleTV, the elephant in the room may be the room itself
Think about collaboration in the classroom, meeting room, lunchroom, boardroom, lecture room, operating room, examination room…
It's been a while, but the last time I looked -- most classrooms have a TV. What if those classroom TVs had an AppleTV with apps that let the teacher and the students collaborate with their iPads.
The same thing goes for all the other rooms listed above…
I suspect that there is [B][I][COLOR=blue]rooms[/COLOR][/I][/B] for Apple to sell hundreds of millions of AppleTVs.
To reiterate what another poster said, our language is literally laced with archaic terminology. Probably half of the terms you use on a daily basis are archaic in origin, but the meaning has evolved with the times. So for example, I suspect your phone no longer has a rotary dial on it, but we still use the term "dial" to refer to entering a number on a phone to make a call. Better yet, I suspect that you do not have to use a whip to drive a team of horses or oxen pulling your car, but we still refer to the person operating the car as the "driver."
I've been living with Apple TVs about 3 years now and the main complaint i've got about it is boy do I hate that included remote. While the remote looks nice and makes a great first impression, the initial "wow it's so tiny, and it's aluminium" honeymoon period eventually wears off and the grim reality of the fact that it not only is crappy old IR technology, but additionally has a miserably-narrow and somewhat weak signal band for an IR remote sets in.
And don't get me started on that "remote app". By the time I've actually gotten the app opened I'm bored. Apple needs to produce a decent bluetooth keyboard remote. And I'm mean ASAP! And no, I'm not talking about Apple's bluetooth keyboard on my sofa or ottoman. I'm talking about something along the lines of this:
Even as an optional extra I'd buy something like this in a heartbeat. Perhaps this is a good Kickstarted project for someone? Because if I knew the first thing to do and had the facilities I'd be producing the blasted thing. Sadly this Boxee remote will not work with the Apple TV :-(
I use my Harmony universal remote to control my entire system, including the AppleTV. Having multiple remotes is a pain-in-the-rear even if each remote is designed as well as it could be (which they usually aren't). I anticipate that Apple is headed in a similar direction (reducing the number of remotes you need for total system control down to just one or none) so I wouldn't expect to see them do much with regard to improving that silly little remote that comes with the AppleTV. I think that within a year we will be much happier with whatever solution replaces it.
Thompson
I think the most interesting thing about this move (that no one has mentioned) is this link:
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_appletv/family/appletv
This is what you see when you click the far right button in the Apple TV category.
I’ll type it again:
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_appletv/family/appletv
See that? Know what else has that subcategory?
… Crap, nothing. I figured the MacBook lines and the AirPort family would have the subcategory, but, uh… they don’t. Oh well. I still find it interesting, since it’s not needed for ONE product being sold.
Oh yes
Make it 4K UHD Apple.
I think the most interesting thing about this move (that no one has mentioned) is this link:
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_appletv/family/appletv
This is what you see when you click the far right button in the Apple TV category.
I’ll type it again:
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_appletv/family/appletv
See that? Know what else has that subcategory?
… Crap, nothing. I figured the MacBook lines and the AirPort family would have the subcategory, but, uh… they don’t. Oh well. I still find it interesting, since it’s not needed for ONE product being sold.
Ha, good catch. I love my Apple TV, and I'd love it even more if I have a family of devices to choose from.
Ya' know...
We've been talking about the living room and playing games on the AppleTV.... Maybe even some multiplayer games on the AppleTV using our iPads or iPhones as game controllers/mirrors.
Think about that, a multiplayer game using AirPlay and iDevices as controllers/mirrors -- is a form of collaboration.
We may be ignoring the elephant in the room!
For AppleTV, the elephant in the room may be the room itself
Think about collaboration in the classroom, meeting room, lunchroom, boardroom, lecture room, operating room, examination room…
It's been a while, but the last time I looked -- most classrooms have a TV. What if those classroom TVs had an AppleTV with apps that let the teacher and the students collaborate with their iPads.
The same thing goes for all the other rooms listed above…
I suspect that there is rooms for Apple to sell hundreds of millions of AppleTVs.
I am in Pro AV, and I see quite a few AppleTVs in meeting rooms, and even construction trailers during the process of getting facilities built. It's a great way to put up PDF plans on a projector from an iPad for collaboration purposes. Obviously, not everyone has MacBooks out there, but there are certain companies that have enough users with MacBooks to further justify having some ATVs on hand for a cheap and easy way to wirelessly connect to a projector. Right now, I'm not so sure all the tools are there for larger deployments in the enterprise, or classrooms for that matter (how would one manage hundreds of ATVs in a facility?), but if anyone out there has some suggestions, I'd like to hear them.