Blockchain CEO calls Apple 'gatekeeper to innovation,' says Bitcoin app removal signals payments pus

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  • Reply 41 of 196
    Originally Posted by tkell31 View Post

    I'm curious, but what's to stop someone from creating another currency like itcoin, icoin, or idiotcoin?  

     

    Absolutely nothing whatsoever. That’s why there ARE thousands of them.

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  • Reply 42 of 196
    e1618978e1618978 Posts: 6,075member
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    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post



    Fact: Apple didn't say why they pulled the app. Which is strange and I'm sure frustrating to the developer, but they should attempt to communicate with Apple developer relations instead of jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon on CNBC.



    They have removed every bit coin app, though.



    http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/09/how-does-apple-really-feel-about-bitcoin/



    I think that the iBooks thing was BS, and Amazon is an abusive monopoly.   Here the shoe is on the other foot - Apple is abusing its market power in an attempt to corner a position in payments.



    This is no different that the stuff Microsoft used to do.  For all of you arguing that Apple's actions are not anticompetitive, try to imagine somebody using the same arguments about Microsoft in the year 2000 or so - you all have become the people that you used to hate.



    tzeshan - android is not a safe platform to use bit coin on, too much malware.

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  • Reply 43 of 196
    Originally Posted by e1618978 View Post

    I think that the iBooks thing was BS, and Amazon is an abusive monopoly.   Here the shoe is on the other foot - Apple is abusing its market power in an attempt to corner a position in payments.

     

    Because the only possible way to make a payment on an iDevice is to use Apple’s servi–oh, wait, that’s completely wrong.

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  • Reply 44 of 196
    e1618978e1618978 Posts: 6,075member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Because the only possible way to make a payment on an iDevice is to use Apple’s servi–oh, wait, that’s completely wrong.




    If Apple is successful, then it won't be the only way to make a payment, but it will be the most convent way to make a payment, which will result in a monopoly  (just like Amazon prime is going to result in a monopoly).



    You just want that to happen, is all.

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  • Reply 45 of 196
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    e1618978 wrote: »

    They have removed every bit coin app, though.

    http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/09/how-does-apple-really-feel-about-bitcoin/


    I think that the iBooks thing was BS, and Amazon is an abusive monopoly.   Here the shoe is on the other foot - Apple is abusing its market power in an attempt to corner a position in payments.


    This is no different that the stuff Microsoft used to do.  For all of you arguing that Apple's actions are not anticompetitive, try to imagine somebody using the same arguments about Microsoft in the year 2000 or so - you all have become the people that you used to hate.


    tzeshan - android is not a safe platform to use bit coin on, too much malware.

    What market power. Everyone says Google has 80% market share with Android.
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  • Reply 46 of 196
    Originally Posted by e1618978 View Post

    If Apple is successful, then it wont be the only way to make a payment, but it will be the most convent way to make a payment, which will result in a monopoly

     

    That’s absolutely psychotic. Convenience ? monopoly.

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  • Reply 47 of 196
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    e1618978 wrote: »
    Apple is abusing its market power in an attempt to corner a position in payments.

    What you're talking about is specifically supporting bitcoin yet you're claim is very, very different. Apps by Intuit, PayPal and Square readily come to mind as a way of making a payment using an iDevice.

    Let me know when Apple starts banning all apps that support payments using legal tender.
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  • Reply 48 of 196
    kenwkkenwk Posts: 25member
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    Originally Posted by bottleworks View Post

     

    It's amazing and terrifying how people on this web site will defend Apple no matter what.  This is simple anti-competitive behavior. 

     

     

    Don't be naive.  That means they would have to ban US currency too.  Also, virtually every other currency in existence.  Also PayPal. 

     

    Don't you people get that, by allowing Apple (or Google) to ban/approve apps and content,  you no longer have control over your own personal lives. 




    Sounds like you are the one that is naive, if you have a currency that is freely traded with no tracking then this is a problem.  This invites all kind of illegal actives and tax frauds.  The governments around the world will not allow this to go mainstream. 

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  • Reply 49 of 196
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bottleworks View Post

     

    It's amazing and terrifying how people on this web site will defend Apple no matter what.  This is simple anti-competitive behavior. 


    Typical bitcoin-speak. There’s nothing anti-competitive here. Last I looked, there were dozens of payment apps on the App Store, including PayPal, Square, Intuit, many banks, etc.

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  • Reply 50 of 196
    Originally Posted by kenwk View Post

    Sounds like you are the one that is naive, if you have a currency that is freely traded with no tracking then this is a problem.  This invites all kind of illegal actives and tax frauds.  The governments around the world will not allow this to go mainstream. 

     

    Wasn’t it just recently that The Silk Road was raided? It was discovered that they were in possession of HALF OF THE BITCOINS EVER MINED. HALF. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

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  • Reply 51 of 196
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Go away.

    You could be a rich man if you charged $.05 to anyone that says "I own so and so, but....". :lol:
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  • Reply 52 of 196
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Wasn’t it just recently that The Silk Road was raided? It was discovered that they were in possession of HALF OF THE BITCOINS EVER MINED. HALF. :lol:

    Yes, I'm not sure about the 'half' part but it was a large sum.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9910TR20131002?irpc=932
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  • Reply 53 of 196
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    That’s absolutely psychotic. Convenience ? monopoly.
    Microsoft never blocked other internet browsers.

    So yes, making your own solution more convenient can be an abuse of power.

    Apple isn't a monopoly, so if it did remove BlockCoin for competitive reasons it likely isn't an illegal abuse, but still an abuse nevertheless.
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  • Reply 54 of 196
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    Microsoft never blocked other internet browsers.

     

    And Apple’s blocking Bitcoin from their… Oh, wait, they’re not, are they?

     

    So yes, making your own solution more convenient can be an abuse of power.


     

    Yes. And? Until that says, ‘is’, the point is moot.

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  • Reply 55 of 196
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    crowley wrote: »
    Microsoft never blocked other internet browsers.

    They didn't have to, most people didn’t have the internet speeds to download software, plus why buy a browser if MS is giving it away for free.
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  • Reply 56 of 196
    e1618978e1618978 Posts: 6,075member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Wasn’t it just recently that The Silk Road was raided? It was discovered that they were in possession of HALF OF THE BITCOINS EVER MINED. HALF. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />




    150k is not half of 10 million...    Whoever told you it was half is terrible at math.

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  • Reply 57 of 196
    Originally Posted by e1618978 View Post

    150k is not half of 10 million...    Whoever told you it was half is terrible at math.

     

    That was then; this is now, yeah?

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  • Reply 58 of 196
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    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post



    They didn't have to, most people didn’t have the internet speeds to download software, plus why buy a browser if MS is giving it away for free.

    Netscape was giving it away for free before Microsoft, which simply adopted Netscape’s strategy.  And it was Netscape’s complaint to the DoJ that started the whole investigation that led to the finding of monopoly.

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  • Reply 59 of 196
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Netscape was giving it away for free before Microsoft, which simply adopted Netscape’s strategy.  And it was Netscape’s complaint to the DoJ that started the whole investigation that led to the finding of monopoly.

    I've never heard that Netscape was giving their browser away for free. What was their business model if the browser was free?
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  • Reply 60 of 196
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Netscape was giving it away for free before Microsoft, which simply adopted Netscape’s strategy.  And it was Netscape’s complaint to the DoJ that started the whole investigation that led to the finding of monopoly.

    It was only free for some, noncommercial and educational users, but others had to license it.
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