"Developer Shawn Hardin, showing off his company's video-game creation, slings pies, tomatoes and other bits of food at opponents linked online around the world.
Yet rather than using an iPhone, laptop or game console to play his company's "Global Food Fight," Hardin dons Google Glass and launches each new salvo with a nod of his head."
Does the writer Cliff Edwards know to play this game requires an Android smartphone? Why does Google play dumb that many media people have a misunderstanding of how Google Glass works?
While I can't speak for another user, as I'm unable to know their full intent, r4d4 was likely frustrated with the constant bombardment and unacceptable behaviour TS has become known for. I don't condone his choice of wording, but like many users I can share his frustration (as other users would be inclined to agree, and they are).
--As for the definition of a bully or 'bullying'--
Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively impose domination over others. The behaviour is often repeated and habitual.
31,800+ posts filled with numerous counts of bully-esque confrontations.
One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power.
Previous moderator of the website with connections to the current staff, high post count / board participation.
Behaviours used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets.
Familiar phrases such as "Shut up! Get out!" etc.
Justifications and rationalizations for such behaviour sometimes include differences of class, race, religion, gender, sexuality, appearance, behaviour, body language, personality, reputation, lineage, strength, size or ability.
In this case there is a difference of opinion / preference.
While I can't speak for another user, as I'm unable to know their full intent, r4d4 was likely frustrated with the constant bombardment and unacceptable behaviour TS has become known for. I don't condone his choice of wording, but like many users I can share his frustration (as other users would be inclined to agree, and they are).
--As for the definition of a bully or 'bullying'--
Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively impose domination over others. The behaviour is often repeated and habitual.
31,800+ posts filled with numerous counts of bully-esque confrontations.
One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power.
Previous moderator of the website with connections to the current staff, high post count / board participation.
Behaviours used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets.
Familiar phrases such as "Shut up! Get out!" etc.
Justifications and rationalizations for such behaviour sometimes include differences of class, race, religion, gender, sexuality, appearance, behaviour, body language, personality, reputation, lineage, strength, size or ability.
In this case there is a difference of opinion / preference.
If you have a problem with a post, the correct thing to do is flag it. This is a well-moderated forum.
As regards to the accusation of bullying; I think you'll have a very hard time making such an accusation stick, because in the five or so years I've been frequenting AI, I'm not sure I could point to a single instance. People can be gratuitously offensive or make personal attacks and may get banned, but those aren't instances of bullying. If they carried on then they might turn into that, but the person would get banned before it happened.
The problem with your long definition of bullying is that it is so broad and all-encompassing that it is very hard to apply to a forum environment. I feel that if the moderators saw a situation getting out of hand, or felt that someone was being unreasonably set upon, they would take action. And people do tend to come to others' defence. Also, in an adult forum, how do you gauge the strength of each person?
In the end, AI is a moderated forum which people are free to leave at any time! Real bullying is so awful because the victim has no way out. I speak from experience, more, I hope, as the victim than the bully.
If you have a problem with a post, the correct thing to do is flag it. This is a well-moderated forum.
As regards to the accusation of bullying; I think you'll have a very hard time making such an accusation stick, because in the five or so years I've been frequenting AI, I'm not sure I could point to a single instance. People can be gratuitously offensive or make personal attacks and may get banned, but those aren't instances of bullying. If they carried on then they might turn into that, but the person would get banned before it happened.
The problem with your long definition of bullying is that it is so broad and all-encompassing that it is very hard to apply to a forum environment. I feel that if the moderators saw a situation getting out of hand, or felt that someone was being unreasonably set upon, they would take action. And people do tend to come to others' defence. Also, in an adult forum, how do you gauge the strength of each person?
In the end, AI is a moderated forum which people are free to leave at any time! Real bullying is so awful because the victim has no way out. I speak from experience, more, I hope, as the victim than the bully.
While I do understand the procedure under normal circumstances, the fact is, when dealing with TS things are not normal. When you consider his history of bullying, this is as far as it gets from normal. There is a reason MacRumors and 9-to-5 had him banned. There is a reason he is no longer an administrator or moderator of this website. There is a reason some nut-case has a blog that tracks TS's rhetoric...
Anyways, continuing this discussion into the matter will only bring this conversation further off topic.
things are not normal. When you consider his history of bullying, this is as far as it gets from normal. There is a reason MacRumors and 9-to-5 had him banned.
Please just come off it. Or at least get your facts straight.
There is a reason he is no longer an administrator or moderator of this website.
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There is a reason some nut-case has a blog that tracks TS's rhetoric...
While I do understand the procedure under normal circumstances, the fact is, when dealing with TS things are not normal. When you consider his history of bullying, this is as far as it gets from normal. There is a reason MacRumors and 9-to-5 had him banned. There is a reason he is no longer an administrator or moderator of this website. There is a reason some nut-case has a blog that tracks TS's rhetoric...
Anyways, continuing this discussion into the matter will only bring this conversation further off topic.
You only have 61 posts, calm down dude. You're obviously trying too hard. Take a deep breath count to 20, ok now look out the window, see that tree with the breeze and now calm down. See, life is better.
I consider myself a pretty forward thinking person when it comes to tech, and I'm sorry but I just don't see the implementation in most of the scenarios this video showed as being appealing enough for mass popularity. I guarantee that there is a niche group but I just don't see it being huge. Nobody is talking to their watch out in public, the same way people aren't generally using Siri out in public. Nobody is taking that watch on a surfing adventure (unless waterproof maybe). The question that needs to be asked is what problems does having a smart watch solve that are otherwise a pain is the butt OR could be done so much better that a person feels the need to spend extra money on one. Trust me, I'm a fan of the innovation in this area because it's good for all of us....but I just haven't seen THEE smartwatch to usher in the category properly.
I watched the video and I'm NOT excited about it at all, even though I already want a smart watch. Something is missing here.
The usual calendar/messaging stuff isn't too exciting. But I like the idea of augmented reality without the goggles, i.e. you are walking past an historic building and you look down at your watch and it's already telling you the history of it, without even having to do a query.
The thing to be careful of with these kind of devices, is that they don't start nagging the user. With one that was centred around health for example, there is a danger of that.
Apple still has not revealed their smart watch or smart TV. There is no guarantee that Apple will produce anything better, if at all. Apple is no longer the leader that it once was. It can't even decide on a bigger screen iPhone.
Apple still has not revealed their smart watch or smart TV. There is no guarantee that Apple will produce anything better, if at all. Apple is no longer the leader that it once was. It can't even decide on a bigger screen iPhone.
I beg to differ. Apple does things when it makes sense to, and when technology allows it. Were people screaming about Apple making a smartphone while Palm, HP, and BB had a few years head start? How are those companies doing now?
Apple still has not revealed their smart watch or smart TV. There is no guarantee that Apple will produce anything better, if at all. Apple is no longer the leader that it once was. It can't even decide on a bigger screen iPhone.
Wrong. Apple releases things when they are ready and not because Joe Corp beats it to market. You can't rush innovation and quality.
I'm back bitches! Well at least 3/4 of me as I am now short a few parts, eeeewwww gross Relic. I'll start a new thread or post in my older one later to bring everyone up to speed, if your interested that is, the last thing I want is anyone to think I was anymore self centered then I already am.
Now though I want to talk about that a-hole comic figure Dick Tracy and his unholy influence that he has had on us. Though I think the technology behind these watches is defiantly interesting and as a gadget freak myself wouldn't mind getting a hold of the Motorola for a day or two. However, outside the circles of cheating High School-er's and people who have a Sky Mall Magazine Platinum Credit Card, are these things actually helpful to the rest of us in our daily struggles, also sometimes called life. To start with, voice commands, I feel embarrassed enough when using it alone and I use this technology everyday, in fact this very post was entered via speech recognition (I'm currently bed ridden and typing makes me nauseated). Anyway, the point being, I don't think I would ever talk to my gadget in public unless I was on LSD and it was talking back. Now as these things become more common in our society I'm sure the social stigma will die down a little but I'm defiantly not going to be that person who changes the minds of the people, so for now If you talk out load and there is no one or phone around to answer, your a wackadoodle. It is also your duty as a sane person to point out these talking into thin air nut jobs to the nearest police official. One last thought, say you wear this watch at all times and then say you were talking unkindly about someone, upon you mentioning that persons name will the watch automatically start composing a message. We’ve all butt dialed only to have your mother in law overhear a conversation about her mustache and horribly ugly, itchy, cat pee smelling sweaters that she knits her self and then gives them away as presents even though she is one of the wealthiest people you know and can afford real gifts, huh, I guess that was only me than. Weather, what is this fascination with always knowing what the weather will be like, the apps that are available today on tablets, phones, this one refrigerator from LG, and now watches have some of the most elaborate meteorological information available, what ever happened to just looking out the window. Messaging, how many more ways of texting do we need until we feel snuggly enough inside, knowing that our friends and family are always reachable. We complain that our government is tracking our every movement but I think the biggest problem we face today is trying to hide from that bitch Linda from down the street who has been trying to reach you for the last 3 days because her ADHD, Ritalin dosed children are selling candy bars that she had to replace twice already because they won't stop stuffing their fat mouths, so they can go to baseball camp but what they really need is to go to fat camp. Unfortunately she has your mobile number, Hangouts, Viber, Facetime, AOL, Yahoo, MSN, Facebook, ooVoo, Skype, Skout, Moco, WhatsApp, Line, NimBuzz, Instagram, Twitter and WeChat user id's as well. Sports scores, who cares about sports, what we really need is celebrity gossip info, I know I can't go a full day without hearing about what Angelina, Brad and their 15 techno colored bastard children are up to, woops, I went to far with that one.
I can go on and on as to why a the Google Watch is a silly device but as you can now start to see the real reason for me posting was just to say hello and that I missed you guys, I thought simply saying hello would be kind of boring so I wanted to show you guys what I used to bring to the table, nonsensical gibberish with a smile, hahaha, I guess I really am self centered. I’m feeling a little better now, not out of the woods yet, not by a long shot but I now have something I didn’t have before and that’s hope. Like I said above I will sit down and write a proper post of my situation.
So again, hello everyone……..
Soooo good to see you here again! Wow, full force I see. Love the mother in law thing, agree with the stigma, also don't see myself talking to my watch and I don't think you went to far with Angelina & Brad.
Look forward to read upon your situation. Good to read that there now is hope. Best to you.
At the current time most of these wearables are solutions in search of a problem. Do we really need a second screen for our smartphones? No. After the first couple of times you and your geek pals ooh and ahh over the geekasity of it all you'll realize that you're now tethered to two devices that need your constant attention, care, and feeding. Regressive.
Now on the other hand, if we look beyond the constant stimulation and entertainment addiction of the geekmass we'll find a ton of possibilities for wearable devices in other application areas like personal health monitoring, children/elderly/pet tracking and telemetry, personal safety (gas and oxygen monitoring for miners, soldiers, tank cleaners, people who work in enclosed spaces, etc.), wearable CO monitors for the deaf, near field communication for firefighters, police, and military, avalanche beacons for skiers, underwater telemetry pingers for divers, connected dosimeters for people who work in hazardous or radioactive enviroments, sleepy driver detectors, concussion detectors, sun exposure / sunburn risk avoidance, a way to see around corners, etc. Less "industrial" uses could include a wearable all-day pass that you use at a theme park that allows you to reserve ride times.
All I'm saying is don't fall into the trap of backward looking thinking or only seeing wearables as extensions to existing portable devices like smart phones. There are countless categories of real world applications that will emerge because of the capabilities that wearables will deliver - once they get the kinks worked out of them, like dealing with energy storage and energy harvesting. It would be realistic to consider all current uses of wearable technology as being very primitive and short sighted compared to what is possible. It's not a matter of IF, only a matter of WHEN.
A glass of water in the desert of the forum religious wars and feuds.
Anyway, the point being, I don't think I would ever talk to my gadget in public unless I was on LSD and it was talking back. Now as these things become more common in our society I'm sure the social stigma will die down a little but I'm defiantly not going to be that person who changes the minds of the people, so for now If you talk out load and there is no one or phone around to answer, your a wackadoodle. It is also your duty as a sane person to point out these talking into thin air nut jobs to the nearest police official.
I agree. My hope is that subvocalisation technology will be developed, and you will wear some kind of a choker and subvocalise to it.
One issue will be the app developers. These screen shots show apps running with no banner ads. Because of very little screen real-estate, an ad supported model may not work with this form factor. Will most apps need to be paid apps? A banner ad in this form factor will greatly diminish the experience. As they say, the devil will be in the details and I'm curious as to how this will shake out.
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Google's motto is do no evil. Is fooling people an evil thing? Look at this Bloomberg report.
"Google Glass Leads Video-Game Makers to Test Wearable Potential"
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-glass-leads-video-game-210732984.html
"Developer Shawn Hardin, showing off his company's video-game creation, slings pies, tomatoes and other bits of food at opponents linked online around the world.
Yet rather than using an iPhone, laptop or game console to play his company's "Global Food Fight," Hardin dons Google Glass and launches each new salvo with a nod of his head."
Does the writer Cliff Edwards know to play this game requires an Android smartphone? Why does Google play dumb that many media people have a misunderstanding of how Google Glass works?
@Benjamin Frost
While I can't speak for another user, as I'm unable to know their full intent, r4d4 was likely frustrated with the constant bombardment and unacceptable behaviour TS has become known for. I don't condone his choice of wording, but like many users I can share his frustration (as other users would be inclined to agree, and they are).
--As for the definition of a bully or 'bullying'--
Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively impose domination over others. The behaviour is often repeated and habitual.
31,800+ posts filled with numerous counts of bully-esque confrontations.
One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power.
Previous moderator of the website with connections to the current staff, high post count / board participation.
Behaviours used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets.
Familiar phrases such as "Shut up! Get out!" etc.
Justifications and rationalizations for such behaviour sometimes include differences of class, race, religion, gender, sexuality, appearance, behaviour, body language, personality, reputation, lineage, strength, size or ability.
In this case there is a difference of opinion / preference.
If you have a problem with a post, the correct thing to do is flag it. This is a well-moderated forum.
As regards to the accusation of bullying; I think you'll have a very hard time making such an accusation stick, because in the five or so years I've been frequenting AI, I'm not sure I could point to a single instance. People can be gratuitously offensive or make personal attacks and may get banned, but those aren't instances of bullying. If they carried on then they might turn into that, but the person would get banned before it happened.
The problem with your long definition of bullying is that it is so broad and all-encompassing that it is very hard to apply to a forum environment. I feel that if the moderators saw a situation getting out of hand, or felt that someone was being unreasonably set upon, they would take action. And people do tend to come to others' defence. Also, in an adult forum, how do you gauge the strength of each person?
In the end, AI is a moderated forum which people are free to leave at any time! Real bullying is so awful because the victim has no way out. I speak from experience, more, I hope, as the victim than the bully.
31,800+ posts
And there goes your argument right out the window.
I won’t apologize for believing that trolls don’t have the right to post here at all.
If you have a problem with a post, the correct thing to do is flag it. This is a well-moderated forum.
As regards to the accusation of bullying; I think you'll have a very hard time making such an accusation stick, because in the five or so years I've been frequenting AI, I'm not sure I could point to a single instance. People can be gratuitously offensive or make personal attacks and may get banned, but those aren't instances of bullying. If they carried on then they might turn into that, but the person would get banned before it happened.
The problem with your long definition of bullying is that it is so broad and all-encompassing that it is very hard to apply to a forum environment. I feel that if the moderators saw a situation getting out of hand, or felt that someone was being unreasonably set upon, they would take action. And people do tend to come to others' defence. Also, in an adult forum, how do you gauge the strength of each person?
In the end, AI is a moderated forum which people are free to leave at any time! Real bullying is so awful because the victim has no way out. I speak from experience, more, I hope, as the victim than the bully.
While I do understand the procedure under normal circumstances, the fact is, when dealing with TS things are not normal. When you consider his history of bullying, this is as far as it gets from normal. There is a reason MacRumors and 9-to-5 had him banned. There is a reason he is no longer an administrator or moderator of this website. There is a reason some nut-case has a blog that tracks TS's rhetoric...
Anyways, continuing this discussion into the matter will only bring this conversation further off topic.
things are not normal. When you consider his history of bullying, this is as far as it gets from normal. There is a reason MacRumors and 9-to-5 had him banned.
Please just come off it. Or at least get your facts straight.
Yeah, one guy.
You said it yourself: nut case.
While I do understand the procedure under normal circumstances, the fact is, when dealing with TS things are not normal. When you consider his history of bullying, this is as far as it gets from normal. There is a reason MacRumors and 9-to-5 had him banned. There is a reason he is no longer an administrator or moderator of this website. There is a reason some nut-case has a blog that tracks TS's rhetoric...
Anyways, continuing this discussion into the matter will only bring this conversation further off topic.
You only have 61 posts, calm down dude. You're obviously trying too hard. Take a deep breath count to 20, ok now look out the window, see that tree with the breeze and now calm down. See, life is better.
I consider myself a pretty forward thinking person when it comes to tech, and I'm sorry but I just don't see the implementation in most of the scenarios this video showed as being appealing enough for mass popularity. I guarantee that there is a niche group but I just don't see it being huge. Nobody is talking to their watch out in public, the same way people aren't generally using Siri out in public. Nobody is taking that watch on a surfing adventure (unless waterproof maybe). The question that needs to be asked is what problems does having a smart watch solve that are otherwise a pain is the butt OR could be done so much better that a person feels the need to spend extra money on one. Trust me, I'm a fan of the innovation in this area because it's good for all of us....but I just haven't seen THEE smartwatch to usher in the category properly.
I watched the video and I'm NOT excited about it at all, even though I already want a smart watch. Something is missing here.
The thing to be careful of with these kind of devices, is that they don't start nagging the user. With one that was centred around health for example, there is a danger of that.
Apple still has not revealed their smart watch or smart TV. There is no guarantee that Apple will produce anything better, if at all. Apple is no longer the leader that it once was. It can't even decide on a bigger screen iPhone.
If these sentences had any logical connection whatsoever, you wouldn’t be being told to shut up right now.
I beg to differ. Apple does things when it makes sense to, and when technology allows it. Were people screaming about Apple making a smartphone while Palm, HP, and BB had a few years head start? How are those companies doing now?
Wrong. Apple releases things when they are ready and not because Joe Corp beats it to market. You can't rush innovation and quality.
Soooo good to see you here again! Wow, full force I see. Love the mother in law thing, agree with the stigma, also don't see myself talking to my watch and I don't think you went to far with Angelina & Brad.
Look forward to read upon your situation. Good to read that there now is hope. Best to you.
At the current time most of these wearables are solutions in search of a problem. Do we really need a second screen for our smartphones? No. After the first couple of times you and your geek pals ooh and ahh over the geekasity of it all you'll realize that you're now tethered to two devices that need your constant attention, care, and feeding. Regressive.
Now on the other hand, if we look beyond the constant stimulation and entertainment addiction of the geekmass we'll find a ton of possibilities for wearable devices in other application areas like personal health monitoring, children/elderly/pet tracking and telemetry, personal safety (gas and oxygen monitoring for miners, soldiers, tank cleaners, people who work in enclosed spaces, etc.), wearable CO monitors for the deaf, near field communication for firefighters, police, and military, avalanche beacons for skiers, underwater telemetry pingers for divers, connected dosimeters for people who work in hazardous or radioactive enviroments, sleepy driver detectors, concussion detectors, sun exposure / sunburn risk avoidance, a way to see around corners, etc. Less "industrial" uses could include a wearable all-day pass that you use at a theme park that allows you to reserve ride times.
All I'm saying is don't fall into the trap of backward looking thinking or only seeing wearables as extensions to existing portable devices like smart phones. There are countless categories of real world applications that will emerge because of the capabilities that wearables will deliver - once they get the kinks worked out of them, like dealing with energy storage and energy harvesting. It would be realistic to consider all current uses of wearable technology as being very primitive and short sighted compared to what is possible. It's not a matter of IF, only a matter of WHEN.
A glass of water in the desert of the forum religious wars and feuds.
Thank you.
Anyway, the point being, I don't think I would ever talk to my gadget in public unless I was on LSD and it was talking back. Now as these things become more common in our society I'm sure the social stigma will die down a little but I'm defiantly not going to be that person who changes the minds of the people, so for now If you talk out load and there is no one or phone around to answer, your a wackadoodle. It is also your duty as a sane person to point out these talking into thin air nut jobs to the nearest police official.
I agree. My hope is that subvocalisation technology will be developed, and you will wear some kind of a choker and subvocalise to it.
...and you will wear some kind of a choker...
Google dreams of such a day.