Visionaries of the tech world who foresaw Apple's future

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  • Reply 81 of 106
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    hill60 wrote: »
    No, because he had more class than to publicise his charitable efforts.

    http://www.apple.com/au/product-red/

    Because you assume it's self-serving, whereas it could be to make more people aware, and in turn increase donations towards the charity. I'm not claiming it's either or, but it has helped a great many people.
  • Reply 82 of 106
    Well, I like Dvorak because his curmudgeon style is a good offset to all the "this will be great!" commercial hype surrounding each and every new shiny thing to come to market.

    However when he started being a Mac fan on "This Week In Tech" -- a podcast from some of the old ScreenSavers crew captained by Leo LaPorte; I started to worry about Apple.

    Anyway -- I think that most of these naysayers were not being insightful as much as they were waving a baton and pretending to lead the parade. They were all "right place, right time" heroes of their day and they felt invulnerable.

    So, cut Dvorak some slack -- we need our crusty eccentrics. He hits 50% out of the park, and 50% in the ditch. That's 90% better than most of the tech prostitutes in the media.
  • Reply 83 of 106
    emesemes Posts: 239member
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    No, because he had more class than to publicise his charitable efforts.

     

    http://www.apple.com/au/product-red/




    Pfft. One organization is hardly comparable to Gate's exploits, especially one that has not been nearly as successful as the B&MGF.

  • Reply 84 of 106
    emesemes Posts: 239member
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    So how does the surface compare to the 64bit desktop class architecture Apple's A7 ARM based CPU brings to the game?




    With an equally 64bit Intel core i5?

     

    Unless you meant the Surface RT, in which case I did not say it was as good as the iPad. Just that in terms of functionality as mobile OS tablets they are essentially the same.

  • Reply 85 of 106
    emes wrote: »

    Haha. It's all very fun to laugh at Gates, but ...bla, bla, bla...

    If you want to grace yourself with reading about the rest of his incredibly generous and life-saving endeavors, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation

    You didn't see Steve Jobs doing that kind of thing.

    Sooo, you, like most fools, think public generosity is more important than generosity done in secret?? You're right, though, "You didn't see Steve Jobs doing that kind of thing," because he didn't do it for the attention. Finally, it was Bill's friend, out of Omaha that prodded the prick to be a donor instead of a dick.
  • Reply 86 of 106
    So, cut Dvorak some slack -- we need our crusty eccentrics. He hits 50% out of the park, and 50% in the ditch. That's 90% better than most of the tech prostitutes in the media.

    He hit damn near all of them into the ditch... of the few he didn't strike out against. Anyway, Mark Stephens (aka Robert X. Cringely) did a more accurate job of prognosticating while being a curmudgeon.
  • Reply 87 of 106
    emesemes Posts: 239member
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    Sooo, you, like most fools, think public generosity is more important than generosity done in secret??

    That's not what I said. You're completely misinterpreting my post. My point is that Bill is just more generous with his money than Steve was. And even if what you say is true and he had to be forced into philanthropy, the end justifies the means, as he has helped millions of people around the world.

  • Reply 88 of 106
    Blissful writing.

    “Meanwhile, Samsung is focusing on copying Apple's paleo-retail strategy of partnering with Best Buy to erect themed tables in genius-free settings.”

    Genius.
  • Reply 89 of 106
    formosa wrote: »
    My favorite quote after the iPhone was announced was made by Palm CEO Ed Colligan:

    "We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone,'' he said. "PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in.''

    In a sense, Mr. Colligan was right. Apple didn't just walk in; they upended the tables.
  • Reply 90 of 106
    hill60 wrote: »
    I'm surprised Balmer wasn't included...

    <iframe width="640" height="385" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/eywi0h_Y5_U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>


    ...then again he doesn't really need a sarcastic take on his reality.

    <iframe width="640" height="385" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/VWkRgNTJZuM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

    Some people are beyond sarcasm.
  • Reply 91 of 106
    He deserves everything his pointy little head worked so hard to earn. As a wise man one observed, "It's not what you put in your mouth that corrupts you, it's what comes out of your mouth..."

    Indeed; from the heart of man spews forth evil.
  • Reply 92 of 106
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    He deserves everything his pointy little head worked so hard to earn. As a wise man one observed, "It's not what you put in your mouth that corrupts you, it's what comes out of your mouth..."

    What does the abolishment of dietary laws have to do with the article? :lol:
  • Reply 93 of 106
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    What does the abolishment of dietary laws have to do with the article? image

     

    Most people use their mouths to also speak from... if you use a different orifice then that's your business,  ;)

  • Reply 94 of 106
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    That's not what I said. You're completely misinterpreting my post. My point is that Bill is just more generous with his money than Steve was. And even if what you say is true and he had to be forced into philanthropy, the end justifies the means, as he has helped millions of people around the world.


    Hmmm, let me quote you word for word, "You didn't see Steve Jobs doing that kind of thing."

     

    And that's exactly what I took you to task for. Did you not say that??? Let me help you out here...

     

    "You didn't SEE Steve Jobs doing that kind of thing."

     

    No, I didn't SEE Steve Jobs doing that because while he did do that, he didn't do it publicly. Of the five ways of giving, in the Hebrew language, doing so publicly is the lowest of all.

  • Reply 95 of 106
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
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    Just that in terms of functionality as mobile OS tablets they are essentially the same.


     

    Apart from the 64bit bit that is.

  • Reply 96 of 106
    emesemes Posts: 239member
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    Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

     

    Hmmm, let me quote you word for word, "You didn't see Steve Jobs doing that kind of thing."

     

    And that's exactly what I took you to task for. Did you not say that??? Let me help you out here...

     

    "You didn't SEE Steve Jobs doing that kind of thing."

     

    No, I didn't SEE Steve Jobs doing that because while he did do that, he didn't do it publicly. Of the five ways of giving, in the Hebrew language, doing so publicly is the lowest of all.




    Oh dear.

     

    My point is that, no matter how he did it or for whatever reason, Bill Gates has helped millions of people, and so laughing at him is an incredible insult as well as a sign of vast immaturity and ignorance.

     

    I don't know why you brought up the Hebrew language as a form of proof, but the reason Gates made his philanthropy public was to get others including Zuckerberg and Buffet to join in and help, which is actually even more helpful.

  • Reply 97 of 106
    emesemes Posts: 239member
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    Apart from the 64bit bit that is.




    Actually, the benchmark scores between the Surface 2 and iPad Air weren't that far off. The Surface 2 actually beat the iPad in Sunspider.

  • Reply 98 of 106
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    emes wrote: »

    Actually, the benchmark scores between the Surface 2 and iPad Air weren't that far off. The Surface 2 actually beat the iPad in Sunspider.

    How does it go at real time audio processing, you know, doing real work?
  • Reply 99 of 106
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,186member
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    I'm surprised Balmer wasn't included...


    Ballmer would have qualified except he never accomplished anything productive.

  • Reply 100 of 106
    hydrogenhydrogen Posts: 314member
    cpsro wrote: »
    Ballmer would have qualified except he never accomplished anything productive.


    Depends on the criteria used ... Sweat ?
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