Apple vs. Samsung docs reveal Galaxy Tab was a flop and Samsung knew it

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  • Reply 81 of 190
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    dasanman69 wrote: »

    Thanks! That's a good example of a helpful and informative post . :)

    So there's really no new "top secret sales data revealed" in this article. As DED would have said, we've seen all this before... and reported right here at AI.
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  • Reply 82 of 190
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    No. It's not obvious. It depends on the laws of the countries where their stock is traded. It depends on what they put in the filings with the various stock exchanges.

    In case you haven't noticed, their ability to tell the truth and operate ethically is questionable at best. Their chief executive has a criminal record.

    Nope didn't miss it. I pointed it out as a matter of fact, highlighting Dick Applebaum's followup post.
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  • Reply 83 of 190
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    gunner1954 wrote: »
    ......all those cheap 'picutre frame' tablets that use Android......

    That's a new one. I'm unaware of those. A quick search didn't turn up any. Do you have links of any such devices?
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  • Reply 84 of 190
    jmey267jmey267 Posts: 57member
    How is Samsung not being sued by investors for misleading there shareholders. Or why has Koreas version of the SEC not investigated this?
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  • Reply 85 of 190
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    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post



    I think he said the analytic companies excluded Japan in the charts to show Android was "winning" everywhere but the US.

     

    Aaah, okay.  

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  • Reply 86 of 190
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    jmey267 wrote: »
    How is Samsung not being sued by investors for misleading there shareholders. Or why has Koreas version of the SEC not investigated this?
    http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/178163/exclusive-apple-vs-samsung-docs-reveal-galaxy-tab-was-a-flop-and-samsung-knew-it#post_2514508
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  • Reply 87 of 190
    b9botb9bot Posts: 238member
    So again more proof that Samsung lies, cheats, steals to get business even when there is no business. It's poor attempts at putting down Apple's products in its advertising appear to be a big failure not to anyones surprise. The corruption of this companies leaders seems to have no bounds and it seems that the legal system is totally blind to there actions as they keep getting away with lie after lie after lie. The the anal-ists seem to be blindingly following them like there some sort of god praising Samsung and Android when in reality the facts show totally the opposite going on and yet none of them saw it, not one.
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  • Reply 88 of 190
    hametahameta Posts: 79member
    Aaah, okay.  

    IDIOT
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  • Reply 89 of 190
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by singularity View Post

    So if the tab range was a complete disaster and selling an embarrassing amount in the US then by showing it isn't Apple undermining their own argument on how it has lost billions in profit and irreparable harm?




    Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf View Post

    How could Apple claim billions in lost sales if Samsung's Tab sold so poorly? Money doesn't just disappear into thin air. It has to end up in someone's hands. If not Samsung's, then whose?

     

    How on Earth do you not understand this?

     

    Originally Posted by mark6051 View Post

    This doesnt really seem to happening so the truth and veracity of all this of it may never be known.

     

    They’re in court right now. Everything being uncovered here is the truth. The fact that Wall Street couldn’t care less that Samsung has lied to them for six years is MEANINGLESS to the veracity of these documents.

     

    This is Wall Street. The same place that shorts Apple for having THE FOURTH BEST QUARTER OF ANY COMPANY IN HUMAN HISTORY. Nothing they do is anything even remotely close to justice.

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  • Reply 90 of 190
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    hameta wrote: »
    IDIOT

    There's no need for name calling.
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  • Reply 91 of 190

    The reality distortion field play well by samsung. :\

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  • Reply 92 of 190
    So does Googlesung pay more than the 20¢ per post that the Koch Brothers pay to troll liberal blogs? If not, 9633 posts in 37 months only comes to ~$52/month. Not much of a career.
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  • Reply 93 of 190
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    So does Googlesung pay more than the 20¢ per post that the Koch Brothers pay to troll liberal blogs? If not, 9633 posts in 37 months only comes to ~$52/month. Not much of a career.

    Is this your pet peeve? What have the Koch brothers to do with anything?
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  • Reply 94 of 190
    evilutionevilution Posts: 1,399member

    Cue the Samsung/Android fanbois saying that Sumsung purposely gave Apple doctored low figures to try and reduce the amount they have to pay Apple.

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  • Reply 95 of 190
    drwamdrwam Posts: 38member
    To Samsung, IDC, Gartner and Strategy Analytics:
    You were liars in 2011. Why should we not believe you are liars now?
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  • Reply 96 of 190
    So does Googlesung pay more than the 20¢ per post that the Koch Brothers pay to troll liberal blogs? If not, 9633 posts in 37 months only comes to ~$52/month. Not much of a career.

    Is this your pet peeve? What have the Koch brothers to do with anything?

    That's the best-known example of paid trolling. I'm just wondering if Gatorguy is making more than that.
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  • Reply 97 of 190

    By using the tablet sales numbers Apple's lawyers are going to contrast Samsung's quite successful phone* business to their abysmal tablet** sales.

     

    That shows a direct correlation between Samsung's copying/stealing and their market success.

     

    * The Galaxy S I and S II were almost identical to iPhone 3G/3GS. The look of the S III changed a lot but they kept the GUI and interactions as close to iOS as possible.

    ** With the Galaxy Tab series Samsung never reached the same level of blatant copying as there was already serious tension between the two companies.

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  • Reply 97 of 190
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    hameta wrote: »
    IDIOT

    Uncalled for.
    So does Googlesung pay more than the 20¢ per post that the Koch Brothers pay to troll liberal blogs? If not, 9633 posts in 37 months only comes to ~$52/month. Not much of a career.

    Probably the same rate George Soros pays.
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  • Reply 99 of 190
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

    A long time and generally respected member such as yourself ....

    Thank you.

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  • Reply 100 of 190
    d4njvrzfd4njvrzf Posts: 797member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by capasicum View Post

     

    By using the tablet sales numbers Apple's lawyers are going to contrast Samsung's quite successful phone* business to their abysmal tablet** sales.

     

    That shows a direct correlation between Samsung's copying/stealing and their market success.

     

    * The Galaxy S I and S II were almost identical to iPhone 3G/3GS. The look of the S III changed a lot but they kept the GUI and interactions as close to iOS as possible.

    ** With the Galaxy Tab series Samsung never reached the same level of blatant copying as there was already serious tension between the two companies.


    Samsung marketed the S3 was by emphasizing how different it was from the iPhone, not by saying "look! we can do this too!" That was the first device where they genuinely tried to distinguish themselves from Apple, to the point that some observers remarked that it looked as though it were designed by lawyers. Remember this advert?

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