I personally feel that Digital Comics should not be treated any different Digital Music.
When I purchase an MP3 file, I can actually access the file, copy it, back it up and play around with it.
If I buy a comic off Comixology, there is no straightforward way I can access my file. I cannot back it up, I cannot view it on any other app. I am at the mercy of Comixology to read the comic.
That extra bit of control is what makes me apprehensive of buying comics from Comixology.
I just buy trade paperbacks of storylines I am interested in and keep a .CBZ version of them for my iPad.
Kindle use is dead simple. I have the app on all my devices at work and home--on Windows, Apple and Android. Plus a Kindle reader. Does anybody really buy iBooks?
I still don't quite get all the outrage. I use the Barnes and Noble app because I had a Nook before I had an iPad. It really doesn't take much effort to navigate to bn.com, buy a book and then open the app and see the book there. Not having IAP option wouldn't stop me from using an app.
I comprehend it just fine. The goods might not actually go through the store (for things like subscriptions), but everything else that needs to be done to make the transaction possible is handled by Apple.
Why is it that people try to minimize the impact the App Store has, as if all Apple does is handle payments (like Moneris, for example)? You're forgetting that without Apple, Amazon (Comixology) doesn't have access to close to 800 million potential customers. Most of them with credit cards ALREADY on file. And customers who are proven through countless studies to spend more than other platforms do (like Android).
Paying Apple 30% is your cost to get access to the best platform in the world to sell your goods. If I was a manufacturer of a product and approached Walmart to get a national deal to sell my products in their stores, do you think Walmart isn't going to negotiate for the lowest possible price and in return they're going to give me access to the highest possible number of customers? What I lose by selling for less I make up for in greater sales.
BTW, I can purchase goods at Walmart where the product is in fact delivered by someone else not related to Walmart at all. For example, gift cards for restaurants. Do you think Walmart lets them hang them up for display in their store for free? What about iTunes gift cards? Or game time cards for online games? None of these are provided by Walmart - all they do is handle the transaction for a "subscription" to goods that someone else provides you in the end.
The difference being that Walmart does get the same percentage for selling a gift card that they do selling a TV. For a independent developer 30% is a bargain. They don't have to worry about finding someone to host their file, deliver it, and handle the financial transaction. By hosting, and delivering the content Amazon saves Apple money. So why wouldn't a reduced rate make sense?
At the end of the day the sale of these comics are neither going to make or break either company. It hurts us as readers.
Just out of curiosity, why can I buy Amazon.com products (like Lego or TP) through their iPhone/iPad apps but I can't buy Kindle or ComiXology products? What is the difference?
Just out of curiosity, why can I buy Amazon.com products (like Lego or TP) through their iPhone/iPad apps but I can't buy Kindle or ComiXology products? What is the difference?
No you are slow, one day Apple won't allow the parasite called Amazon to squat and when that happens, many like you will be crying Apple is evil as usual, Amazon and Google are currently freeloading within the Appstore.
How are Amazon squatting or freeloading if they are following the rules set by Apple?
Simple question, your responses seem to be a tad overly emotional
Ah, so it’s an opinion that Google takes 30% from their own store. Good to know!
If the thread that you and me were discussing had anything to do with Google and their take on iap I might agree. But we were talking about Amazon following apples rules for publishing apps in their app store. Follow the thread back if you are having trouble remembering
I find scary all these people who "think it normal" that Apple gets a share on these comics in any situation. No, it is not "normal".
They make a rule, which they can legally enforce, that if you go through their store, they get 30%. Fine, this is business.
If you go through the Internet, they don't get a share, and this is perfectly normal.
iPad is a fantastic platform, but it does not mean that Apple gets a free pass to tax anything that runs on iPad. Making the platform is not "owning the platform". You actually PAY for this platform, remember? **If you think you don't, you may ask your parents how much they paid for it. Also, go to bed early, you'll be smarter in school **
- If the sale happens BECAUSE of Apple, they (successfully,it seems) argue they deserve 30%. - If the sale happens through another retailer, they don't, by their own rules, and this is fair.
Any other situation would be a very evil monopoly, and they I certainly hope Apple would get ran into the ground by American people and/or their government, as it should.
Thankfully, even though some commenters here seem to have no clue, Apple obviously knows better than them. Go, Apple!
I'm real glad that AMZN took a big hit the other day.
They've been getting a free pass for far too long. Weak earnings after weak earnings, and yet Wall Street would keep rewarding them. Unbelievable.
Totally agreed. Not too mention the "interesting" situation with Judge Cote is bound to stop favouring AMZN at some point, and it might (I hope) backfire something really mad.
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I personally feel that Digital Comics should not be treated any different Digital Music.
When I purchase an MP3 file, I can actually access the file, copy it, back it up and play around with it.
If I buy a comic off Comixology, there is no straightforward way I can access my file. I cannot back it up, I cannot view it on any other app. I am at the mercy of Comixology to read the comic.
That extra bit of control is what makes me apprehensive of buying comics from Comixology.
I just buy trade paperbacks of storylines I am interested in and keep a .CBZ version of them for my iPad.
Kindle use is dead simple. I have the app on all my devices at work and home--on Windows, Apple and Android. Plus a Kindle reader. Does anybody really buy iBooks?
http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/04/27/gerry-conway-the-comixology-outrage/
The comments section is quite interesting.
I still don't quite get all the outrage. I use the Barnes and Noble app because I had a Nook before I had an iPad. It really doesn't take much effort to navigate to bn.com, buy a book and then open the app and see the book there. Not having IAP option wouldn't stop me from using an app.
So far Amazon has been in the growth, not profits mode. I have a feeling once that switches the love affair with Amazon will end.
The difference being that Walmart does get the same percentage for selling a gift card that they do selling a TV. For a independent developer 30% is a bargain. They don't have to worry about finding someone to host their file, deliver it, and handle the financial transaction. By hosting, and delivering the content Amazon saves Apple money. So why wouldn't a reduced rate make sense?
At the end of the day the sale of these comics are neither going to make or break either company. It hurts us as readers.
Delete.
Just out of curiosity, why can I buy Amazon.com products (like Lego or TP) through their iPhone/iPad apps but I can't buy Kindle or ComiXology products? What is the difference?
Apple doesn't get a cut for physical goods.
This. Would be the best possible situation.
Could be available in the Newsstand app.
Great comeback
How are Amazon squatting or freeloading if they are following the rules set by Apple?
Simple question, your responses seem to be a tad overly emotional
Well, you’ve been shown the truth and refuse to accept it. You don’t deserve anything other than what you’ve received.
Opinions and truth are not the same thing
Ah, so it’s an opinion that Google takes 30% from their own store. Good to know!
If the thread that you and me were discussing had anything to do with Google and their take on iap I might agree. But we were talking about Amazon following apples rules for publishing apps in their app store. Follow the thread back if you are having trouble remembering
They make a rule, which they can legally enforce, that if you go through their store, they get 30%. Fine, this is business.
If you go through the Internet, they don't get a share, and this is perfectly normal.
iPad is a fantastic platform, but it does not mean that Apple gets a free pass to tax anything that runs on iPad. Making the platform is not "owning the platform". You actually PAY for this platform, remember? **If you think you don't, you may ask your parents how much they paid for it. Also, go to bed early, you'll be smarter in school
- If the sale happens BECAUSE of Apple, they (successfully,it seems) argue they deserve 30%. - If the sale happens through another retailer, they don't, by their own rules, and this is fair.
Any other situation would be a very evil monopoly, and they I certainly hope Apple would get ran into the ground by American people and/or their government, as it should.
Thankfully, even though some commenters here seem to have no clue, Apple obviously knows better than them. Go, Apple!
I'm real glad that AMZN took a big hit the other day.
They've been getting a free pass for far too long. Weak earnings after weak earnings, and yet Wall Street would keep rewarding them. Unbelievable.
Totally agreed. Not too mention the "interesting" situation with Judge Cote is bound to stop favouring AMZN at some point, and it might (I hope) backfire something really mad.
Apple doesn't get a cut for physical goods.
Apart from the App Store app. Sorry
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This. Would be the best possible situation.
Could be available in the Newsstand app.
They already sell comics in the iBooks store and have for a while now.