Samsung's 'prepped' witness angers judge in final day of patent trial testimony

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in General Discussion edited May 2014
On the last day of testimony in the Apple v. Samsung patent trial, Samsung counsel and its final expert witness were berated by presiding Judge Lucy Koh over possible coaching on what to say regarding claim construction of a contentious Apple patent.

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Apple and Samsung met in court on Monday to hash out the definition of a claim relating to Apple's '647 patent covering data detectors. Specifically, Apple's definition of "analyzer servers" as presented in Apple v. Samsung differs from a ruling handed down by the Court of Appeals for Federal Circuit last week that overturned the dismissal of a separate action involving Apple and Motorola.

In its ruling, the CAFC sided with Judge Richard A. Posner's interpretation of analyzer servers, not Apple's version as argued in the trial against Samsung. Since Judge Koh allowed Apple to assert the patent and its claim construction, she granted both parties an hour of time and one witness each to clarify the patent in an extension to proceedings.

Apple recalled Carnegie Mellon professor Todd Mowry to testify that Samsung is still in infringement of Apple's "quick links" patent even with Judge Posner's interpretation, reports CNET.

To counter, Samsung recalled University of North Carolina professor Kevin Jeffay. In his testimony, Jeffay said he held a particular interpretation of the analyzer server -- one incongruent with Apple's definition -- but claimed the court ordered him not to discuss it. Judge Koh was not pleased.

According to tweets from mLex correspondent Mike Swift, the jurist did not appreciate "that Samsung 'prepped' Jeffay to say he was blocked from using correct construction." Judge Koh ultimately struck his statements from the record, adding that the expert's deposition was "very inconsistent."

Samsung was charged for the time, limiting Jeffay's testimony to a non-infringement argument based largely on prior art in the form of Borland's Sidekick software first launched on MS-DOS in 1984.

Apple and Samsung will present closing arguments on Tuesday, after which jurors will deliberate and render a verdict as per a 53-page set of finalized instructions handed out earlier today.

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  • Reply 1 of 42
    Samsung is crooked to the core.
    The most dishonest company on the planet.
  • Reply 2 of 42
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Not a good day for Samsung.

    Samsung is crooked to the core.
    The most dishonest company on the planet.

    I'm not so sure. Did you consider any psychics as owning businesses?
  • Reply 3 of 42
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,136member
    So as usual, Samsung (and its lawyers) get caught lying, cheating, bending the truth, etc... and they know the worst they will get is a slap on the wrist. They play the system to their advantage knowing the judge(s) don't have the chops to make an example.
  • Reply 4 of 42
    solipsismx wrote: »
    Not a good day for Samsung.
    I'm not so sure. Did you consider any psychics as owning businesses?

    I knew you were going to say that.

    That'll be $25.
  • Reply 5 of 42
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

    So, the final verdict might be coming tomorrow afternoon already? Or maybe on wednesday?

     

    I want to see Samsung lose so badly.

  • Reply 6 of 42
    revenantrevenant Posts: 621member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post



    So as usual, Samsung (and its lawyers) get caught lying, cheating, bending the truth, etc... and they know the worst they will get is a slap on the wrist. They play the system to their advantage knowing the judge(s) don't have the chops to make an example.

    their lawyers were told sanctions might come their way if it happened again (trying to introduce a new testimony) they would face new sanctions.  and the a little after they coached a witness to say something that was not true and in the end, just lost a little time.

     

    so... basically- they can do what they want when copying/selling phones and then do what they want in court.  and let's face it- even if apple does win, it will be rounded down until it is about 90 million.

     

    however, if it were the other way around...

  • Reply 7 of 42
    tastowetastowe Posts: 108member
    I am piss off at samsung employees because they are cheating and stealing patents from apple and blackberry company. I am not going to buy any samsung galaxy smartphones. So I am to kick the Samsung business with their smartphone out my United States. The stupid customers did bought rip off samsung smartphones. The google are cheating at their employees too. So what I say about Andy Rubin is big troublemaker google employee because he did wrote a android software by copying from iOS after the first iPhone came out.
  • Reply 8 of 42
    If people stop using Google search, Google+. Et al, they will lost their only meaningful source of income and will stop to continue to update android, which were copied by their fxxking chief by sitting on Apple's board...Samjerks will no longer be able to copy any Apple's ideas, analysts and journalists will be fired no because they wrote untrue stories, but rather no cheaters to pay them to lie...we will save on tax dollars to feed those Cote et al...case solved.
  • Reply 9 of 42
    crysisftwcrysisftw Posts: 128member

    I hope Apple win this (again), and Samsung learn something from this (unlikely).

  • Reply 10 of 42
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by water cooler View Post


     stop using Google search

    Time to start using bing

  • Reply 11 of 42
    tripotripo Posts: 74member
    try using www.ask.com instead of google.
    Information is toooooo much power.
  • Reply 12 of 42
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,650member
    tripo wrote: »
    try using www.ask.com instead of google.
    Information is toooooo much power.

    Isn't Ask.com's toolbar and start page widely considered malware? :\
  • Reply 13 of 42
    Time to start using bing

    Yahoo presents the information a bit nicer. I've been using Yahoo as the standard search on all my iDevices and Macs for months now. I don't miss Google search at all.
  • Reply 14 of 42
    thx607thx607 Posts: 14member
    I would suggest duck duck go, disconnect, and Adblock. For the last 6 months I have been dropping google. I started, not because google vs apple. I could care less what two companies do with each other. But rather, I don't want my personal data in the hands of a marketer . I think google has created some neat things but ultimately I choose to find similar stuff elsewhere.
  • Reply 15 of 42
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    If people stop using Google search, Google+. Et al, they will lost their only meaningful source of income and will stop to continue to update android, which were copied by their fxxking chief by sitting on Apple's board...Samjerks will no longer be able to copy any Apple's ideas, analysts and journalists will be fired no because they wrote untrue stories, but rather no cheaters to pay them to lie...we will save on tax dollars to feed those Cote et al...case solved.

    I personal don't think google is all that bad. Id prefer to not use an android device, but base android is not that similar to iOS. Yes, they changed their direction completely when iOS came out- but they had to- or they'd never take off (see Blackberry). Now touchwiz and samsung is a completely different story. They are the worst of the worst in the tech field. So glad apple is doing these lawsuits. Although not "good" publicity for apple- it at least shines the light on how rotten Samsung is.
  • Reply 16 of 42
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    I could read this story over and over...LOL!

    Koh really lost it and went medieval on Samsung in the courtroom.
  • Reply 17 of 42
    thedbathedba Posts: 790member
    F
    Yahoo presents the information a bit nicer. I've been using Yahoo as the standard search on all my iDevices and Macs for months now. I don't miss Google search at all.
    For the kind of search I do, I find Yahoo's engine adequate.
    Just like you, my Mac and both iPhone and iPad, now default over to Yahoo.
  • Reply 18 of 42
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by AppleSauce007 View Post

    Samsung is crooked to the core.

    The most dishonest company on the planet.

     

    Come on, Kimmy; retake the south! You know you want to!

  • Reply 19 of 42
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member
    Yahoo presents the information a bit nicer. I've been using Yahoo as the standard search on all my iDevices and Macs for months now. I don't miss Google search at all.

    thedba wrote: »
    F
    For the kind of search I do, I find Yahoo's engine adequate.
    Just like you, my Mac and both iPhone and iPad, now default over to Yahoo.


    I switched to Yahoo! soon after Google backstabbed Apple. Often, the results are; seemingly; superior.
  • Reply 20 of 42

    Isn't the correct term "coached"? All witnesses are "prepped" before a case (for example, explained how things will go and the types of questions they'll be asked).

     

    "Coaching", IMO, is when the lawyers are telling the witness what to say beforehand when asked a specific question.

     

    Regardless, chalk up another one for Samsung.

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