To DED - should IDC (and the other so called "research" firms) be referred to S.E.C., D.O.J., F.B.I or any other regulatory agency for their willful misleading of the public and subscribers? What they are doing is essentially stock manipulation and fraud to consumers. Why should they continue to get away with this type of manipulative reporting and not get investigated/punished.
We have freedom of speech. I think journalistic criticism is a powerful enough response to marketing companies publishing data like this. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much interest in criticism in the tech community.
It would be difficult to build a case against groups that publish information and then change their figures after the fact to keep a story going. It's publicly reported, and anyone with the curiosity to investigate can. I am a bit disappointed that nobody else in the industry finds this sort of thing worthy of mention.
Not so much optimal reading, I wanted and e reader that also allowed me to have apps and the ability to surf the net or view email when I was taking a break from reading. The kindle gets the abuse and battery burn during the weekend and the iPad does the heavy lifting during the week.
Then why not buy another iPad - and have more apps to run? Makes no sense to me.
it kind of makes sense to me. I have a hard time buy nice things for myself. When I do, I take very good care of it and try to make it last.
Its like having a very nice sports car that you keep in mint condition, under car cover and only take out on sunny days. For the not so nice days, you take the cheap beater. I think that is why the poster has a nice iPad and a beater Kindle. Given more budget, I think we would all like to own just the nice stuff. I'm not sure I have made a good analogy here, but that is the one that came to me first.
Then why not buy another iPad - and have more apps to run? Makes no sense to me.
The consideration is simply price, the Kindle was much cheaper for my needs, if I had my druthers and didn't care about price I would have the iPad Air and the Mini.
Then why not buy another iPad - and have more apps to run? Makes no sense to me.
The consideration is simply price, the Kindle was much cheaper for my needs, if I had my druthers and didn't care about price I would have the iPad Air and the Mini.
tookieman2013,
I appreciate your honesty.
regards.
btw, I find that if I complain often enough about the crap I bought for myself, someone that loves me often give me what I really wanted as a gift. Bless their hearts.
The consideration is simply price, the Kindle was much cheaper for my needs, if I had my druthers and didn't care about price I would have the iPad Air and the Mini.
Thanks for the info. For some reason I was under the impression that you had gotten the larger Fire HDX - which is about the same price as an iPad Mini (non-retina). You're right - the HDX is $60 cheaper than iPad Mini retina and $160 cheaper than iPad Air.
The consideration is simply price, the Kindle was much cheaper for my needs, if I had my druthers and didn't care about price I would have the iPad Air and the Mini.
Thanks for the info. For some reason I was under the impression that you had gotten the larger Fire HDX - which is about the same price as an iPad Mini (non-retina). You're right - the HDX is $60 cheaper than iPad Mini retina and $160 cheaper than iPad Air.
not that I trying to promote HDX in any way, but currently Amazon is blowing them out for $199. Which would be $100 cheap than Mini, $200 cheaper than Mini Retina, and $300 cheaper than the Air.
Thanks for the info. For some reason I was under the impression that you had gotten the larger Fire HDX - which is about the same price as an iPad Mini (non-retina). You're right - the HDX is $60 cheaper than iPad Mini retina and $160 cheaper than iPad Air.
I understand the questions, I probably should have given more info, therefore making my though processes seem more realistic. My retina is 4G LTE which cost $529, my HDX is 4G LTE as well, but cost $329 and Amazon let me pay for it over five payments, so I went for it. Without the payments and price incentive I would have saved my pennies.
it's clear to anyone with a brain that IDC, Gartner, and SA "cook the books" to make their paying clients look good and badmouth Apple at every opportunity since they know Apple will never pay their bribes. just like it is clear that Samsung constantly lies about its sales figures.
but none of the media - tech or traditional - call them out for any of it. they've all devolved to regurgitators and bullshitters (aka pundits), while checking facts is real work. and sensationalism sells, not real analysis.
so called web journalism, for tech at least, is a joke.
it's clear to anyone with a brain that IDC, Gartner, and SA "cook the books" to make their paying clients look good and badmouth Apple at every opportunity since they know Apple will never pay their bribes. just like it is clear that Samsung constantly lies about its sales figures.
but none of the media - tech or traditional - call them out for any of it. they've all devolved to regurgitators and bullshitters (aka pundits), while checking facts is real work. and sensationalism sells, not real analysis.
so called web journalism, for tech at least, is a joke.
IDC, and probably the others you mentioned, earns the vast majority of their revenue from individual and institutional investors buying/subscribing to their research reports. They're not public relations firms. If their data is truly as inaccurate and intentionally slanted to make Apple look bad as DED would like you to be believe then investors wouldn't spend thousands of dollars buying the research would they? That would make no sense since it would be useless. http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Interactive_Data_(IDC)
So you start by complementing DED for a 'good article' and then degenerate into criticising him repeatedly for ranting.
Nothing like engaging in stereotypical trollish behaviour. You might just as well have written 'I like Apple but' to save us the effort of reading any further.
It is a good article, and fairly accurate. I think saying the tablet market is 'collapsing' is overly dramatic and that Daniel has it fairly right, Apple is flat to falling, and Samsung is falling faster. Samsung falling faster isn't necessarily good news for Apple as the tablet market future doesn't look like it is going to be gaining for either side.
I do criticize his 'media is biased against Apple' argument- mostly based on what I wrote. A few months ago he was ranting against them not including iPad sales in PC's due to an anti-Apple bias. Now they include them and he rants against that as anti-Apple bias. I would have zero argument with it if he had a consistent argument (whether or not I agreed with that argument). As long he continues to change his view from article to article depending on which method is more pro-Apple I think he deserves a little chiding. If IDC is doing the same thing (in the opposite direction) they deserve more than a little chiding.
I've linked this before -- but, it's always worth reminding ourselves.
That video reminds me of how I've always thought phones should be as programmable as possible when it comes to alert methods. You could have it only immediately audibly notify you in the case of emails that are marked urgent, calls from your kids, etc. to ensure that if something is an emergency you are reachable. Then everything else could wait until later under a given setting. The video also reminds me why I have always preferred to live in areas where less developed parks and trails are within driving distance. Unfortunately from my perspective even the national parks in the US feel a bit commercialized compared to back country areas.
A good article. I think 'collapsing' is a strong word to use for either Apple or Samsung. The tablet industry is going to head toward reduced sales and eventually flatten out at a decent baseline level. Its not like there is going to stop being a demand for them- its just not going to be the same demand as during the first few years where many people just didn't have one.
Wanting tablets to be included with PC's would be more believable if the view was consistent. Adding tablets to be included with PC's would allow the favorable headline of 'PC sales are absolutely booming, largely due to the iPad and other tablet PC's gaining substantial market share'
Unfortunately that would also mean you have to include those other PC's in all the data that wouldn't be as 'Pro-Apple' Web usage statistics would now get dramatically skewed less pro-Apple as the majority is still done on 'traditional' PC's. Dominant share of web sales? Not really, as I think only between 17-30% of sales was done on 'tablets.' So the headline would have to change from "Apple gets 80% of tablet online shopping" to "Apple gets 15% of online sales"
If IDC is switching views back and forth to whichever side has a negative Apple outlook that is pretty dubious. Daniel wanting to flip his definition back and forth on numerous occasions is at least understandable since he's supposed to just pick whichever selectively skews things most pro-Apple on any given article. At a minimum it is entertaining... Seeing a huge rant article about why tablets need to be included as PC's one month, followed by headlines seperating data from the two in regards to online sales, followed by a huge rant claiming the data is biased because they are including exactly the data in the way DED originally suggested.....
I don't even believe they included all PC's, laptops, or even netbooks- only ones that are capable of being stand alone tablets? The T-100 is probably a poor choice for the author's argument. It is sold as a tablet. They keyboard is sold as an optional accessory.
So you start by complementing DED for a 'good article' and then degenerate into criticising him repeatedly for ranting.
Nothing like engaging in stereotypical trollish behaviour. You might just as well have written 'I like Apple but' to save us the effort of reading any further.
Hey, I, too compliment DED when he writes a good article, and criticize him when he rants, elides or misrepresents facts, cites himself, etc.
No comment on this particular article.
I don't consider myself a troll and think I have far less biases and agenda than DED.
I do point out that DED's habit of posting comments to his own articles under the pseudonym @Corrections [blocked] is disingenuous at best -- providing trollish support for his own agenda/articles while, frequently, demeaning dissenters,
well you've just proven that the problem with "bias" isn't AppleInsider, but in your own noggin, where the truth is contemptible and the Apple logo makes you defensive and angry.
Just to clarify - are you suggesting that AppleInsider is not biased?
If so, that is possibly the most risible statement I've heard in my whole life.
Amusing that you mention people getting defensive and angry, when the mildest criticism of Apple is enough to get plenty of the regulars here foaming at the mouth.
Euphonious,
please don't take Daniels comments out of context. Lets look at the whole paragraph including the TOPIC sentence.
It's also quite embarrassing for you comment on the article without having even read it. And if you did read it, and all you can offer is contempt for the truth and a quick turnaround segue into how great Amazon's failing, low-priced iPad copy is and how much contempt you carry for Apple, well you've just proven that the problem with "bias" isn't AppleInsider, but in your own noggin, where the truth is contemptible and the Apple logo makes you defensive and angry.
regarding foaming at the month. Any praise for Apple makes people come here foaming at the mouth with evidence they didn't even bother to read the whole article. This is the whole point of what Daniel said. Please don't remove that part. That was the whole point of the paragraph and why that was stated first.
If you look at the post that @Corrections replied to (shown in blue below, and later in context) you will see that he unfairly unloaded on @Relic.
I have my ups and downs. today is a good day. I have a fire going in my bedroom so it's nice and warm, using my snoring dog as a pillow and just surfing. Decided to check out Appleinsider to see if anything is new. Same o'l, same o'l, Samsung bashing, nothing is better than an iPad, Apple is our lord and savior in a sea of evil companies trying to copy what they have achieved.
Clearly, @Relic does not appear to be replying to this article -- rather commenting on AI in general. @Relic, is sometimes a bit contrary (aren't we all) and often prefers competitive products.
While, I don't always agree with Relic, I usually enjoy her posts and reasoned discussions -- can't say the same for @Corrections -- that's why I blocked him!
FWIW, @Relic had been hospitalized for months under intense medication, and we thought we'd lost her late last year.
Good to see you post again. Do hope this means you're feeling better now.
THAT is impressive! I have the same res, but it's a 30" ACD - hardly portable. Although tech has come a long way, there is still so much we would like to evolve even further.
Best,
Phil
I have my ups and downs. today is a good day. I have a fire going in my bedroom so it's nice and warm, using my snoring dog as a pillow and just surfing. Decided to check out Appleinsider to see if anything is new. Same o'l, same o'l, Samsung bashing, nothing is better than an iPad, Apple is our lord and savior in a sea of evil companies trying to copy what they have achieved. Did you ever buy an Apple PowerMac, I would be interested to hear from people who have one. Especially if their worth it, I'm kind of tempted. I can build a dual CPU 12 Core Xeon, 64GB system easily enough and cheaper but what I can't get is the graphic cards for the price Apple is offering.
I've linked this before -- but, it's always worth reminding ourselves.
The problem with the "camera you have with you" is that you always have it with you!
I hadn't seen that before and so true! I have finally taken to confiscating my kids phones and tablets when we are on a road trip every few hours so they can look outside at the scenery.
well you've just proven that the problem with "bias" isn't AppleInsider, but in your own noggin, where the truth is contemptible and the Apple logo makes you defensive and angry.
Just to clarify - are you suggesting that AppleInsider is not biased?
If so, that is possibly the most risible statement I've heard in my whole life.
Amusing that you mention people getting defensive and angry, when the mildest criticism of Apple is enough to get plenty of the regulars here foaming at the mouth.
Euphonious,
please don't take Daniels comments out of context. Lets look at the whole paragraph including the TOPIC sentence.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corrections
It's also quite embarrassing for you comment on the article without having even read it. And if you did read it, and all you can offer is contempt for the truth and a quick turnaround segue into how great Amazon's failing, low-priced iPad copy is and how much contempt you carry for Apple, well you've just proven that the problem with "bias" isn't AppleInsider, but in your own noggin, where the truth is contemptible and the Apple logo makes you defensive and angry.
regarding foaming at the month. Any praise for Apple makes people come here foaming at the mouth with evidence they didn't even bother to read the whole article. This is the whole point of what Daniel said. Please don't remove that part. That was the whole point of the paragraph and why that was stated first.
If you look at the post that @Corrections replied to (shown in blue below, and later in context) you will see that he unfairly unloaded on @Relic.
Quote:
I have my ups and downs. today is a good day. I have a fire going in my bedroom so it's nice and warm, using my snoring dog as a pillow and just surfing. Decided to check out Appleinsider to see if anything is new. Same o'l, same o'l, Samsung bashing, nothing is better than an iPad, Apple is our lord and savior in a sea of evil companies trying to copy what they have achieved.
Clearly, @Relic does not appear to be replying to this article -- rather commenting on AI in general. @Relic, is sometimes a bit contrary (aren't we all) and often prefers competitive products.
While, I don't always agree with Relic, I usually enjoy her posts and reasoned discussions -- can't say the same for @Corrections -- that's why I blocked him!
FWIW, @Relic had been hospitalized for months under intense medication, and we thought we'd lost her late last year.
Good to see you post again. Do hope this means you're feeling better now.
THAT is impressive! I have the same res, but it's a 30" ACD - hardly portable. Although tech has come a long way, there is still so much we would like to evolve even further.
Best,
Phil
I have my ups and downs. today is a good day. I have a fire going in my bedroom so it's nice and warm, using my snoring dog as a pillow and just surfing. Decided to check out Appleinsider to see if anything is new. Same o'l, same o'l, Samsung bashing, nothing is better than an iPad, Apple is our lord and savior in a sea of evil companies trying to copy what they have achieved. Did you ever buy an Apple PowerMac, I would be interested to hear from people who have one. Especially if their worth it, I'm kind of tempted. I can build a dual CPU 12 Core Xeon, 64GB system easily enough and cheaper but what I can't get is the graphic cards for the price Apple is offering.
Dick Applebaum,
#1. Passionate author at AI, spends time and effort to research and create an editorial, for a popular website which attracts Apple fans and unfortunately trolls.
#2. Reader in pain comes to AI for entertainment (apparently not because she is an Apple fan per your description of her), says how much she thinks nothing has changed without even bothering to read the article. Call author names and tries to discredit him. I've heard of grumpy old men that just complain to get attention, I guess there is no reason we can't have the same with women.
#3. Author responds to defend himself and his work. Basically saying, read the article and its contents before making accusations. Otherwise, they have no basis for what they said other than bias.
#4. Now you block the author because he defended himself and what he said.
I am not sure I understand the motivation to your post. Are passionate authors not people too? Should they just sit there while grump people come here, who have never wrote, researched or published anything in their life throw mud at him without have the common respect to even read what he actually wrote?
If people can't be civil and respectful of someone's hard work and just comes here to bash without actually reading it, then to me it says a lot about that person, how to categorize them, and what respect I will give them going forward.
Makes me want to go buy 4 more iPads, the new MBA, and when the 6 comes out, a new iPhone for everyone in my family. What about the new iWatch? I'll pick up one of those too!
#1. Passionate author at AI, spends time and effort to research and create an editorial, for a popular website which attracts Apple fans and unfortunately trolls. #2. Reader in pain comes to AI for entertainment (apparently not because she is an Apple fan per your description of her), says how much she thinks nothing has changed without even bothering to read the article. Call author names and tries to discredit him. I've heard of grumpy old men that just complain to get attention, I guess there is no reason we can't have the same with women. #3. Author responds to defend himself and his work. Basically saying, read the article and its contents before making accusations. Otherwise, they have no basis for what they said other than bias. #4. Now you block the author because he defended himself and what he said.
I am not sure I understand the motivation to your post. Are passionate authors not people too? Should they just sit there while grump people come here, who have never wrote, researched or published anything in their life throw mud at him without have the common respect to even read what he actually wrote?
If people can't be civil and respectful of someone's hard work and just comes here to bash without actually reading it, then to me it says a lot about that person, how to categorize them, and what respect I will give them going forward.
well you've just proven that the problem with "bias" isn't AppleInsider, but in your own noggin, where the truth is contemptible and the Apple logo makes you defensive and angry.
Just to clarify - are you suggesting that AppleInsider is not biased?
If so, that is possibly the most risible statement I've heard in my whole life.
Amusing that you mention people getting defensive and angry, when the mildest criticism of Apple is enough to get plenty of the regulars here foaming at the mouth.
Euphonious,
please don't take Daniels comments out of context. Lets look at the whole paragraph including the TOPIC sentence.
It's also quite embarrassing for you comment on the article without having even read it. And if you did read it, and all you can offer is contempt for the truth and a quick turnaround segue into how great Amazon's failing, low-priced iPad copy is and how much contempt you carry for Apple, well you've just proven that the problem with "bias" isn't AppleInsider, but in your own noggin, where the truth is contemptible and the Apple logo makes you defensive and angry.
regarding foaming at the month. Any praise for Apple makes people come here foaming at the mouth with evidence they didn't even bother to read the whole article. This is the whole point of what Daniel said. Please don't remove that part. That was the whole point of the paragraph and why that was stated first.
If you look at the post that @Corrections replied to (shown in blue below, and later in context) you will see that he unfairly unloaded on @Relic.
I have my ups and downs. today is a good day. I have a fire going in my bedroom so it's nice and warm, using my snoring dog as a pillow and just surfing. Decided to check out Appleinsider to see if anything is new. Same o'l, same o'l, Samsung bashing, nothing is better than an iPad, Apple is our lord and savior in a sea of evil companies trying to copy what they have achieved.
Clearly, @Relic does not appear to be replying to this article -- rather commenting on AI in general. @Relic, is sometimes a bit contrary (aren't we all) and often prefers competitive products.
While, I don't always agree with Relic, I usually enjoy her posts and reasoned discussions -- can't say the same for @Corrections -- that's why I blocked him!
FWIW, @Relic had been hospitalized for months under intense medication, and we thought we'd lost her late last year.
Good to see you post again. Do hope this means you're feeling better now.
THAT is impressive! I have the same res, but it's a 30" ACD - hardly portable. Although tech has come a long way, there is still so much we would like to evolve even further.
Best,
Phil
I have my ups and downs. today is a good day. I have a fire going in my bedroom so it's nice and warm, using my snoring dog as a pillow and just surfing. Decided to check out Appleinsider to see if anything is new. Same o'l, same o'l, Samsung bashing, nothing is better than an iPad, Apple is our lord and savior in a sea of evil companies trying to copy what they have achieved. Did you ever buy an Apple PowerMac, I would be interested to hear from people who have one. Especially if their worth it, I'm kind of tempted. I can build a dual CPU 12 Core Xeon, 64GB system easily enough and cheaper but what I can't get is the graphic cards for the price Apple is offering.
Dick Applebaum,
#1. Passionate author at AI, spends time and effort to research and create an editorial, for a popular website which attracts Apple fans and unfortunately trolls. #2. Reader in pain comes to AI for entertainment (apparently not because she is an Apple fan per your description of her), says how much she thinks nothing has changed without even bothering to read the article. Call author names and tries to discredit him. I've heard of grumpy old men that just complain to get attention, I guess there is no reason we can't have the same with women. #3. Author responds to defend himself and his work. Basically saying, read the article and its contents before making accusations. Otherwise, they have no basis for what they said other than bias. #4. Now you block the author because he defended himself and what he said.
I am not sure I understand the motivation to your post. Are passionate authors not people too? Should they just sit there while grump people come here, who have never wrote, researched or published anything in their life throw mud at him without have the common respect to even read what he actually wrote?
If people can't be civil and respectful of someone's hard work and just comes here to bash without actually reading it, then to me it says a lot about that person, how to categorize them, and what respect I will give them going forward.
@Relic is a technology fan -- everything from cars to watches
She claims (and I believe her) to have purchased, or currently owns, many Apple products -- when they suit her needs
if you review her post history vis a vis DED's -- I think you will find her less biased than DED
we do not know whether she read the article or not -- I suspect she did
her post, while in this thread, does not appear to be directed at this article or its author -- rather to AI in general
many here (including myself) post OT or general comments not related to the particular thread (I posted a response to the @Relic post asking about the new Mac Pro -- from another AI thread).
almost always, a DED article will include a link to another DED article (there are 12 links in this DED article -- 6 of them are to other DED articles)
where did @Relic call the author names and try to discredit him?
grumpy -- maybe so, maybe no ...
#3 I maintain that the author responded inappropriately to @Relic's post. If you have followed DED as long as many here, you will realize that he tends to take things too personally -- especially anything against Apple or for one of DED's despised Apple competitors -- Yes, despised is a strong word, but DED seldom seems to miss an opportunity to rant against MS, Sammy, or the perceived villain du jour, even if it isn't germane to the article/post at hand.
#4 I blocked @Corrections long ago, and complained to AI, when I first realized he was/is getting special treatment afforded no other author or poster:
DED has his say in the article -- his agenda, his biases, his selection and version of the facts -- that's as it should be in an editorial
@Corrections gets to post supporting facts to his own articles while (pretending?) to be a separate voice -- that's unfair
@Corrections gets to criticize/demean other posters while (pretending?) to be a separate voice -- that's unfair
I am not sure I understand the motivation to your post. Are passionate authors not people too? Should they just sit there while grump people come here, who have never wrote, researched or published anything in their life throw mud at him without have the common respect to even read what he actually wrote?
If people can't be civil and respectful of someone's hard work and just comes here to bash without actually reading it, then to me it says a lot about that person, how to categorize them, and what respect I will give them going forward.
The motivations for my post are truth and fairness!
Passionate authors are people too -- and, like all of us, they are due all the valid praise and criticism they deserve. As stated earlier, I do not think @Relic's post was referring to the article or the author -- rather, the author overreacted and demeaned the poster. Again, we don't know that @Relic did not read the article -- and I don't think she bashed him.
I suspect if you will take the time to review the post history from @Relic and the post history from @Corrections -- that you will find that @Relic is more fair and reasoned than @Corrections -- and just as passionate.
I get the feeling that you feel very sympathetic to Relic due to her illness, and that is clouding your judgement. Her posts tend to be full of character and can be amusing. And I'm inclined to give her a free pass due to her predicament. But that doesn't excuse the sweeping statements that she made, which were ill-considered.
As for your comments about Daniel Eran Dilger: I don't know if you've got some kind of grudge against him, but what you say doesn't ring true at all. His writing is consistently intelligent, well-researched and shows a mind-boggling attention to detail and awareness of history, which I haven't come across with any other writer on the web. Many writers write in what they think is an 'intelligent' style, but those writers tend to end up resorting to lots of grand generalisations using fancy words without citing sources. They chuck a graph or two in to make it seem like they've done their homework, then wander off into intelli-speak land. Dilger, on the other hand, is a pleasure to read for two reasons: firstly, for all the length of his articles, his writing is actually concise, yet packed with detail. Secondly, he has developed a pleasantly distinctive character to his writing—sometimes more flamboyant, sometimes less so, but always containing a certain 'je ne sais quoi.'
In short, he is a fine writer, which may be why he has a regular column at AI.
I often enjoy and normally agree with your posts, so I was surprised not to.
Comments
To DED - should IDC (and the other so called "research" firms) be referred to S.E.C., D.O.J., F.B.I or any other regulatory agency for their willful misleading of the public and subscribers? What they are doing is essentially stock manipulation and fraud to consumers. Why should they continue to get away with this type of manipulative reporting and not get investigated/punished.
We have freedom of speech. I think journalistic criticism is a powerful enough response to marketing companies publishing data like this. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much interest in criticism in the tech community.
It would be difficult to build a case against groups that publish information and then change their figures after the fact to keep a story going. It's publicly reported, and anyone with the curiosity to investigate can. I am a bit disappointed that nobody else in the industry finds this sort of thing worthy of mention.
Then why not buy another iPad - and have more apps to run? Makes no sense to me.
it kind of makes sense to me. I have a hard time buy nice things for myself. When I do, I take very good care of it and try to make it last.
Its like having a very nice sports car that you keep in mint condition, under car cover and only take out on sunny days. For the not so nice days, you take the cheap beater. I think that is why the poster has a nice iPad and a beater Kindle. Given more budget, I think we would all like to own just the nice stuff. I'm not sure I have made a good analogy here, but that is the one that came to me first.
Then why not buy another iPad - and have more apps to run? Makes no sense to me.
The consideration is simply price, the Kindle was much cheaper for my needs, if I had my druthers and didn't care about price I would have the iPad Air and the Mini.
Then why not buy another iPad - and have more apps to run? Makes no sense to me.
The consideration is simply price, the Kindle was much cheaper for my needs, if I had my druthers and didn't care about price I would have the iPad Air and the Mini.
tookieman2013,
I appreciate your honesty.
regards.
btw, I find that if I complain often enough about the crap I bought for myself, someone that loves me often give me what I really wanted as a gift. Bless their hearts.
Thanks for the info. For some reason I was under the impression that you had gotten the larger Fire HDX - which is about the same price as an iPad Mini (non-retina). You're right - the HDX is $60 cheaper than iPad Mini retina and $160 cheaper than iPad Air.
Thanks for the info. For some reason I was under the impression that you had gotten the larger Fire HDX - which is about the same price as an iPad Mini (non-retina). You're right - the HDX is $60 cheaper than iPad Mini retina and $160 cheaper than iPad Air.
not that I trying to promote HDX in any way, but currently Amazon is blowing them out for $199. Which would be $100 cheap than Mini, $200 cheaper than Mini Retina, and $300 cheaper than the Air.
Thanks for the info. For some reason I was under the impression that you had gotten the larger Fire HDX - which is about the same price as an iPad Mini (non-retina). You're right - the HDX is $60 cheaper than iPad Mini retina and $160 cheaper than iPad Air.
I understand the questions, I probably should have given more info, therefore making my though processes seem more realistic. My retina is 4G LTE which cost $529, my HDX is 4G LTE as well, but cost $329 and Amazon let me pay for it over five payments, so I went for it. Without the payments and price incentive I would have saved my pennies.
but none of the media - tech or traditional - call them out for any of it. they've all devolved to regurgitators and bullshitters (aka pundits), while checking facts is real work. and sensationalism sells, not real analysis.
so called web journalism, for tech at least, is a joke.
IDC, and probably the others you mentioned, earns the vast majority of their revenue from individual and institutional investors buying/subscribing to their research reports. They're not public relations firms. If their data is truly as inaccurate and intentionally slanted to make Apple look bad as DED would like you to be believe then investors wouldn't spend thousands of dollars buying the research would they? That would make no sense since it would be useless.
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Interactive_Data_(IDC)
So you start by complementing DED for a 'good article' and then degenerate into criticising him repeatedly for ranting.
Nothing like engaging in stereotypical trollish behaviour. You might just as well have written 'I like Apple but' to save us the effort of reading any further.
It is a good article, and fairly accurate. I think saying the tablet market is 'collapsing' is overly dramatic and that Daniel has it fairly right, Apple is flat to falling, and Samsung is falling faster. Samsung falling faster isn't necessarily good news for Apple as the tablet market future doesn't look like it is going to be gaining for either side.
I do criticize his 'media is biased against Apple' argument- mostly based on what I wrote. A few months ago he was ranting against them not including iPad sales in PC's due to an anti-Apple bias. Now they include them and he rants against that as anti-Apple bias. I would have zero argument with it if he had a consistent argument (whether or not I agreed with that argument). As long he continues to change his view from article to article depending on which method is more pro-Apple I think he deserves a little chiding. If IDC is doing the same thing (in the opposite direction) they deserve more than a little chiding.
I've linked this before -- but, it's always worth reminding ourselves.
That video reminds me of how I've always thought phones should be as programmable as possible when it comes to alert methods. You could have it only immediately audibly notify you in the case of emails that are marked urgent, calls from your kids, etc. to ensure that if something is an emergency you are reachable. Then everything else could wait until later under a given setting. The video also reminds me why I have always preferred to live in areas where less developed parks and trails are within driving distance. Unfortunately from my perspective even the national parks in the US feel a bit commercialized compared to back country areas.
Hey, I, too compliment DED when he writes a good article, and criticize him when he rants, elides or misrepresents facts, cites himself, etc.
No comment on this particular article.
I don't consider myself a troll and think I have far less biases and agenda than DED.
I do point out that DED's habit of posting comments to his own articles under the pseudonym @Corrections [blocked] is disingenuous at best -- providing trollish support for his own agenda/articles while, frequently, demeaning dissenters,
If you look at the post that @Corrections replied to (shown in blue below, and later in context) you will see that he unfairly unloaded on @Relic.
Clearly, @Relic does not appear to be replying to this article -- rather commenting on AI in general. @Relic, is sometimes a bit contrary (aren't we all) and often prefers competitive products.
While, I don't always agree with Relic, I usually enjoy her posts and reasoned discussions -- can't say the same for @Corrections -- that's why I blocked him!
FWIW, @Relic had been hospitalized for months under intense medication, and we thought we'd lost her late last year.
Welcome back @Relic!
Here's the @Relic post in context:
I've linked this before -- but, it's always worth reminding ourselves.
The problem with the "camera you have with you" is that you always have it with you!
I hadn't seen that before and so true! I have finally taken to confiscating my kids phones and tablets when we are on a road trip every few hours so they can look outside at the scenery.
well you've just proven that the problem with "bias" isn't AppleInsider, but in your own noggin, where the truth is contemptible and the Apple logo makes you defensive and angry.
Just to clarify - are you suggesting that AppleInsider is not biased?
If so, that is possibly the most risible statement I've heard in my whole life.
Amusing that you mention people getting defensive and angry, when the mildest criticism of Apple is enough to get plenty of the regulars here foaming at the mouth.
Euphonious,
please don't take Daniels comments out of context. Lets look at the whole paragraph including the TOPIC sentence.
It's also quite embarrassing for you comment on the article without having even read it. And if you did read it, and all you can offer is contempt for the truth and a quick turnaround segue into how great Amazon's failing, low-priced iPad copy is and how much contempt you carry for Apple, well you've just proven that the problem with "bias" isn't AppleInsider, but in your own noggin, where the truth is contemptible and the Apple logo makes you defensive and angry.
regarding foaming at the month. Any praise for Apple makes people come here foaming at the mouth with evidence they didn't even bother to read the whole article. This is the whole point of what Daniel said. Please don't remove that part. That was the whole point of the paragraph and why that was stated first.
If you look at the post that @Corrections replied to (shown in blue below, and later in context) you will see that he unfairly unloaded on @Relic.
Clearly, @Relic does not appear to be replying to this article -- rather commenting on AI in general. @Relic, is sometimes a bit contrary (aren't we all) and often prefers competitive products.
While, I don't always agree with Relic, I usually enjoy her posts and reasoned discussions -- can't say the same for @Corrections -- that's why I blocked him!
FWIW, @Relic had been hospitalized for months under intense medication, and we thought we'd lost her late last year.
Welcome back @Relic!
Here's the @Relic post in context:
Good to see you post again. Do hope this means you're feeling better now.
THAT is impressive! I have the same res, but it's a 30" ACD - hardly portable. Although tech has come a long way, there is still so much we would like to evolve even further.
Best,
Phil
I have my ups and downs. today is a good day. I have a fire going in my bedroom so it's nice and warm, using my snoring dog as a pillow and just surfing. Decided to check out Appleinsider to see if anything is new. Same o'l, same o'l, Samsung bashing, nothing is better than an iPad, Apple is our lord and savior in a sea of evil companies trying to copy what they have achieved. Did you ever buy an Apple PowerMac, I would be interested to hear from people who have one. Especially if their worth it, I'm kind of tempted. I can build a dual CPU 12 Core Xeon, 64GB system easily enough and cheaper but what I can't get is the graphic cards for the price Apple is offering.
Dick Applebaum,
#1. Passionate author at AI, spends time and effort to research and create an editorial, for a popular website which attracts Apple fans and unfortunately trolls.
#2. Reader in pain comes to AI for entertainment (apparently not because she is an Apple fan per your description of her), says how much she thinks nothing has changed without even bothering to read the article. Call author names and tries to discredit him. I've heard of grumpy old men that just complain to get attention, I guess there is no reason we can't have the same with women.
#3. Author responds to defend himself and his work. Basically saying, read the article and its contents before making accusations. Otherwise, they have no basis for what they said other than bias.
#4. Now you block the author because he defended himself and what he said.
I am not sure I understand the motivation to your post. Are passionate authors not people too? Should they just sit there while grump people come here, who have never wrote, researched or published anything in their life throw mud at him without have the common respect to even read what he actually wrote?
If people can't be civil and respectful of someone's hard work and just comes here to bash without actually reading it, then to me it says a lot about that person, how to categorize them, and what respect I will give them going forward.
Makes me want to go buy 4 more iPads, the new MBA, and when the 6 comes out, a new iPhone for everyone in my family. What about the new iWatch? I'll pick up one of those too!
Hear! Hear!
By the numbers:
#1 agree
#2 disagree mas o menos (Cinco De Mayo speak):
#3 I maintain that the author responded inappropriately to @Relic's post. If you have followed DED as long as many here, you will realize that he tends to take things too personally -- especially anything against Apple or for one of DED's despised Apple competitors -- Yes, despised is a strong word, but DED seldom seems to miss an opportunity to rant against MS, Sammy, or the perceived villain du jour, even if it isn't germane to the article/post at hand.
#4 I blocked @Corrections long ago, and complained to AI, when I first realized he was/is getting special treatment afforded no other author or poster:
The motivations for my post are truth and fairness!
Passionate authors are people too -- and, like all of us, they are due all the valid praise and criticism they deserve. As stated earlier, I do not think @Relic's post was referring to the article or the author -- rather, the author overreacted and demeaned the poster. Again, we don't know that @Relic did not read the article -- and I don't think she bashed him.
I suspect if you will take the time to review the post history from @Relic and the post history from @Corrections -- that you will find that @Relic is more fair and reasoned than @Corrections -- and just as passionate.
I get the feeling that you feel very sympathetic to Relic due to her illness, and that is clouding your judgement. Her posts tend to be full of character and can be amusing. And I'm inclined to give her a free pass due to her predicament. But that doesn't excuse the sweeping statements that she made, which were ill-considered.
As for your comments about Daniel Eran Dilger: I don't know if you've got some kind of grudge against him, but what you say doesn't ring true at all. His writing is consistently intelligent, well-researched and shows a mind-boggling attention to detail and awareness of history, which I haven't come across with any other writer on the web. Many writers write in what they think is an 'intelligent' style, but those writers tend to end up resorting to lots of grand generalisations using fancy words without citing sources. They chuck a graph or two in to make it seem like they've done their homework, then wander off into intelli-speak land. Dilger, on the other hand, is a pleasure to read for two reasons: firstly, for all the length of his articles, his writing is actually concise, yet packed with detail. Secondly, he has developed a pleasantly distinctive character to his writing—sometimes more flamboyant, sometimes less so, but always containing a certain 'je ne sais quoi.'
In short, he is a fine writer, which may be why he has a regular column at AI.
I often enjoy and normally agree with your posts, so I was surprised not to.