Before Apple's iPhone was too small, it was too "monstrously" big

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  • Reply 141 of 151
    leighrleighr Posts: 257member
    Of course, Apple pioneered , and still sells the biggest smartphone - it's called the iPad. For those who may have forgotten, when the iPad was first launched it was lampooned in the Press, and by other tech companies as "just a big iPhone". Then, competitors phone's started to get bigger, almost the size of the iPad Mini. So big phones are nothing new for Apple, they were first to market. That said, personally I'll stick with the smaller form factor of the iphone5.
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  • Reply 142 of 151
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    leighr wrote: »
    Of course, Apple pioneered , and still sells the biggest smartphone - it's called the iPad. For those who may have forgotten, when the iPad was first launched it was lampooned in the Press, and by other tech companies as "just a big iPhone". Then, competitors phone's started to get bigger, almost the size of the iPad Mini. So big phones are nothing new for Apple, they were first to market. That said, personally I'll stick with the smaller form factor of the iphone5.

    I don't ever remember anyone ever calling the iPad a "big iPhone", however I do remember it being called a "big iPod". HTC released the HD2 whose screen size was 4.3" phone in 2009, several months before the iPad was introduced.
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  • Reply 143 of 151
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,570moderator
    Samsung actually made the Galaxy Mini because of complaints their flagship phone was too big:

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-28/the-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini-is-coming-and-quickly

    "in certain corners of the world—and demographic segments—there was resistance. “Our research showed that some customers, particularly some female customers, found the size of the phone to be too large,” says Samsung Mobile marketing chief D.J. Lee."

    Is it better to have 3 beds, one for each bear or just the one that suits goldilocks?

    Customers asked for bigger screens so Samsung delivered, customers then asked for smaller screens so Samsung delivered. The difference with Apple is they didn't ask what size to make the original phone. Due to the size of the market now, there are going to be people pulling in both directions due to the variation in hand sizes. However, Samsung's dual model setup doesn't look good because they don't treat both devices equally.
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  • Reply 144 of 151
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Marvin wrote: »
    Customers asked for bigger screens so Samsung delivered

    I agreed with everything except this. I don't think that customers asked for a bigger screen. Samsung wasn't very popular before the SGS 3, and a great many of the people that bought it came from another manufacturer. People wanted a phone that had more style than the offerings of Moto, and HTC.
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  • Reply 145 of 151
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,570moderator
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Marvin wrote: »
    Customers asked for bigger screens so Samsung delivered

    I agreed with everything except this. I don't think that customers asked for a bigger screen. Samsung wasn't very popular before the SGS 3, and a great many of the people that bought it came from another manufacturer. People wanted a phone that had more style than the offerings of Moto, and HTC.

    Comment at the bottom

    http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/16/its-time-for-a-larger-iphone/

    "I had the chance to go to a seminar here in Seoul at the Samsung headquarters where the lady presenting the strategy behind the Galaxy Note told us:
    Ok we asked customers, what's wrong with the ipad? they said "it's too big!"
    And the iPhone? "it's too small"! customers said.
    SO... because we are so smart we made something in between...and the Galaxy note was born."

    The Galaxy S2 ripped off the iPhone 4 design. The Note came before the S3 and they designed the S3 around the Note.
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  • Reply 146 of 151
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    I agreed with everything except this. I don't think that customers asked for a bigger screen. Samsung wasn't very popular before the SGS 3, and a great many of the people that bought it came from another manufacturer. People wanted a phone that had more style than the offerings of Moto, and HTC.

     

    Samsung, not popular?

     

    They were the number one handset vendor in the US long before the S3 launched, before the Galaxy S even launched and number two handset vendor worldwide before they took the crown from Nokia in 2012.

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  • Reply 147 of 151
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    hill60 wrote: »
    Samsung, not popular?

    They were the number one handset vendor in the US long before the S3 launched, before the Galaxy S even launched and number two handset vendor worldwide before they took the crown from Nokia in 2012.

    Not as a flagship Android device manufacturer. The SGS 2 was not a singular model in the US, each carrier had their own distinct model. Before the SGS 3 the most commonly owned high end Android device was made by Motorola, or HTC.
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  • Reply 148 of 151
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Marvin wrote: »
    Comment at the bottom

    http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/16/its-time-for-a-larger-iphone/

    "I had the chance to go to a seminar here in Seoul at the Samsung headquarters where the lady presenting the strategy behind the Galaxy Note told us:
    Ok we asked customers, what's wrong with the ipad? they said "it's too big!"
    And the iPhone? "it's too small"! customers said.
    SO... because we are so smart we made something in between...and the Galaxy note was born."

    The Galaxy S2 ripped off the iPhone 4 design. The Note came before the S3 and they designed the S3 around the Note.


    This is from the first article you linked.
    When the Galaxy S3 came out in May of 2012, it wasn’t clear that the phone’s considerably larger display would be a hit

    And this is also from Samsung's research.
    Our research showed that some customers, particularly some female customers, found the size of the phone to be too large

    Their research findings are contradictory.
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  • Reply 149 of 151
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,570moderator
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Marvin wrote: »
    Comment at the bottom

    http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/16/its-time-for-a-larger-iphone/

    "I had the chance to go to a seminar here in Seoul at the Samsung headquarters where the lady presenting the strategy behind the Galaxy Note told us:
    Ok we asked customers, what's wrong with the ipad? they said "it's too big!"
    And the iPhone? "it's too small"! customers said.
    SO... because we are so smart we made something in between...and the Galaxy note was born."

    The Galaxy S2 ripped off the iPhone 4 design. The Note came before the S3 and they designed the S3 around the Note.

    This is from the first article you linked.
    When the Galaxy S3 came out in May of 2012, it wasn’t clear that the phone’s considerably larger display would be a hit

    And this is also from Samsung's research.
    Our research showed that some customers, particularly some female customers, found the size of the phone to be too large

    Their research findings are contradictory.

    The second research was after the S3, the first was before it. Customers don't know what they don't want until they see it. They didn't make the S3 Mini until a while after the S3 shipped.

    Around the time of the S2, likely before it, they asked customers what they wanted and they said smaller than an iPad bigger than an iPhone so they made the Note so as not to risk their flagship smartphone business. They must have had a positive reception for the Note and then designed the S3 around the Note. When the S3 shipped in May 2012, they again asked customers what they thought and women said nope it's too big. They managed to design and ship the S3 Mini by November 2012, which is highlighted in the earlier article as being something very few companies could do in such a short timeframe.
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  • Reply 150 of 151
    leighrleighr Posts: 257member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    I don't ever remember anyone ever calling the iPad a "big iPhone", however I do remember it being called a "big iPod". HTC released the HD2 whose screen size was 4.3" phone in 2009, several months before the iPad was introduced.

    Here's just a couple of examples of the "it's just a big iPhone, nothing revolutionary" talk that was going on at the time of iPad1 launch:

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/apple-ipad-yawn-2010-1
    http://wehatemacs.com/en/index.php?id=3&sub=1

    I guess they must feel pretty stupid now though - much like the people who said that iPhone 5s won't sell, iPhone 5c won't sell, etc. etc. Of course, Steve Ballmer is now their king!
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  • Reply 151 of 151
    insa80insa80 Posts: 5member

    Nice article well i always choose big screen sets...!

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