Samsung issues apology to cancer-stricken semiconductor plant workers

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  • Reply 41 of 63
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member

    So where are the hired army of pro-Samsung shills now?

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  • Reply 42 of 63
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    mstone wrote: »
    That is way too technical for me. I'm only aware of my numerous Japanese and Chinese associates who often switch out an "l" with an "r" when enunciating English words. A typical example is the English word "Bleach" would be spoken as "Breach".

    From what I've read (or seemingly remember reading) there appears to be different core linguistic reasons and ways in which the "R"/"L" issue goes between Japanese, Chinese, and Korean languages, but it's well above my head to understand exactly why which means I wouldn't even be able to explain it.

    I'm slightly torn by modern communication driving less common languages into extinction, but at the same time we're homogenizing language which will allow for better and more accurate communication which means less of a chance for miscommunication and more time for working on progress.
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  • Reply 43 of 63
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 6,007member

    SamsungInsider...WTH does this have to do with Apple News/Rumors? Who the F&^%$! cares!

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  • Reply 44 of 63
    georgeip5georgeip5 Posts: 225member
    Wow. They just stooped even lower for the 7th time. And I though announcing that galaxy s 5hit in Steve Jobs birthday was low. They always amaze to find a way to lower them selves and dig beneath the mine shaft.
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  • Reply 45 of 63
    dickprinterdickprinter Posts: 1,060member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by macxpress View Post

     

    SamsungInsider...WTH does this have to do with Apple News/Rumors? Who the F&^%$! cares!


    It's nice when the shoe is on the other foot. Apple gets dragged through the coals when they don't provide safe working conditions for their assembly partners so it's only fair that AI reports when Samsung is found to infract in the same way.

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  • Reply 46 of 63
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,358member
    True, and a good observation. The chaebol system is dynastic and familial in nature, which makes sense in Eastern culture, which strongly values loyalty and group harmony over individual talent.

    and this is the reason why Apple will win in the end...
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  • Reply 47 of 63
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,358member
    isammi wrote: »
    A solution not found in a timely manner?
    What an apology!
    Very hypocritical!

    you are right... it is a complete "dick move" on his part...talk about condescending...
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  • Reply 48 of 63
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member

    Incidentally, the Samsung chairman is still unconscious. His days may be numbered.

     

    http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/05/14/apple-samsung-dynasty-successor/

     

    If he dies, expect an epic insider struggle for power at Samsung.

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  • Reply 49 of 63
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    It's nice when the shoe is on the other foot. Apple gets dragged through the coals when they don't provide safe working conditions for their assembly partners so it's only fair that AI reports when Samsung is found to infract in the same way.

    Apple gets blamed when it's a company they are in anyway associated with, even of the issue in no way involves components of products made for Apple.

    The only reason this is unusual is that the headlines don't elude to Apple which is good and bad. Good because it doesn't blame Apple but bad because it means Samsung's mindshare is high enough they don't need to tie the story to Apple to get page hits.
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  • Reply 50 of 63
    vl-tonevl-tone Posts: 337member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    From what I've read (or seemingly remember reading) there appears to be different core linguistic reasons and ways in which the "R"/"L" issue goes between Japanese, Chinese, and Korean languages, but it's well above my head to understand exactly why which means I wouldn't even be able to explain it.



    I'm slightly torn by modern communication driving less common languages into extinction, but at the same time we're homogenizing language which will allow for better and more accurate communication which means less of a chance for miscommunication and more time for working on progress.

     

    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand Japanese is spoken/written using a predefined set of syllables that don't include the "L" sound. Japanese also integrated a lot of english words to their language and write them using those syllables, replacing the "L" sound with an "uR" sound. When Japanese say "clear" (an English word they actually use), they pronounce it "cu-r-ear". (Yeah, most of my Japanese knowledge comes from watching Game Center CX  :) )

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  • Reply 51 of 63
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    vl-tone wrote: »
    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand Japanese is spoken/written using a predefined set of syllables that don't include the "L" sound. Japanese also integrated a lot of english words to their language and write them using those syllables, replacing the "L" sound with an "uR" sound. When Japanese say "clear" (an English word they actually use), they pronounce it "cu-r-ear". (Yeah, most of my Japanese knowledge comes from watching Game Center CX  :) )

    This may answer your questions. Unfortunately I can't read it right now so I can't say either way if you're right or wrong, but I can say that how they are heard is not consistent among all Asiatic languages.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_speakers_learning_r_and_l
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  • Reply 52 of 63
    mac-sochistmac-sochist Posts: 675member
    vl-tone wrote: »
    solipsismx wrote: »
    From what I've read (or seemingly remember reading) there appears to be different core linguistic reasons and ways in which the "R"/"L" issue goes between Japanese, Chinese, and Korean languages, but it's well above my head to understand exactly why which means I wouldn't even be able to explain it.


    I'm slightly torn by modern communication driving less common languages into extinction, but at the same time we're homogenizing language which will allow for better and more accurate communication which means less of a chance for miscommunication and more time for working on progress.

    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand Japanese is spoken/written using a predefined set of syllables that don't include the "L" sound. Japanese also integrated a lot of english words to their language and write them using those syllables, replacing the "L" sound with an "uR" sound. When Japanese say "clear" (an English word they actually use), they pronounce it "cu-r-ear". (Yeah, most of my Japanese knowledge comes from watching Game Center CX  :) )

    Japanese has a single-tongue-tap "r" that sounds to an English-speaker's ear like a "d". They don't have the English growled "r" (hardly anybody does). Japanese doesn't have an "l" sound, but hear an English "l" as being an allophone of their phoneme "r".

    Chinese is the complete opposite. They have an "l" sound, but "r" only occurs in that "erh" ending that's so overused in the Peking dialect (Kind of their version of Cockney.) It's really an r-colored "zh", like the Polish "rz"—nothing like the English (or Japanese) "r".

    Koreans have no issue with "l" and "r", although both are of course single-tongue-tap sounds that differ only in the position of the blade of the tongue. The English growled "r" and "l" are difficult for practically everybody.
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  • Reply 53 of 63
    taniwhataniwha Posts: 347member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

     

    So where are the hired army of pro-Samsung shills now?


    Do you have any idea how boring your comments are, or do you still think you're intelligent ?

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  • Reply 54 of 63
    imemberimember Posts: 247member

    Go home Shamesung, nobody wants you!

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  • Reply 55 of 63
    Funny, the NY Times could've gotten a Pulitzer for this.
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  • Reply 56 of 63
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

    "Samsung issues apology to cancer-stricken semiconductor plant workers" and will give each stricken worker a refirbished Galaxy Gear watch...

     

    “…Of note is the battery of the Galaxy Gear watch, which borrows a trick from older watches. Remember those wristwatches with glow in the dark numbers created by radium salt? Well, the Galaxy Gear offers you the newest in battery luxury. It runs off of depleted uranium, ensuring that your watch’s battery will last… longer than you do!”

     

     "According to the AP, Samsung chairman Lee Kun-hee -- whose father founded the conglomerate in 1938 -- wants to resolve the cancer dispute before handing the company's reins to his son."


     

    He just doesn’t want to be around to be blamed when they start keeling over. Very nice of him, throwing his son under the bus. That’s EXACTLY what he’s doing.

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  • Reply 57 of 63
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    taniwha wrote: »
    Do you have any idea how boring your comments are, or do you still think you're intelligent ?

    Aha! There's one now.
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  • Reply 58 of 63
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    I'm not seeing the racism in that comment. I read sowwy as an insincere, childlike usage of the word sorry. Not as the lallation of the letters "L" and "R". If his goal was to insult a native Asian speaker wouldn't he have spelled is solly?

    You are correct.
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  • Reply 59 of 63
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Aha! There's one now.

    You should have answered with…

    400

    or…

    400

    I'm a big fan of the running theme and coming full circle.
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  • Reply 60 of 63
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    You should have answered with…

    400

    or…

    400

    I'm a big fan of the running theme and coming full circle.

    Now I'm sowwy I didn't introduce the joke a bit better.
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