Apple, Samsung reignite patent lawsuit settlement talks - report

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in General Discussion edited May 2014
Following Apple's most recent legal victory in California, and the news that both it and Google have agreed to end litigation with each other, Apple is said to have renewed settlement talks with Samsung, in an effort to end all ongoing lawsuits between the two rivals.



Citing unnamed sources involved with the discussions, The Korea Times reported on Monday that Samsung Electronics and Apple are in talks to settle their ongoing global patent disputes out of court. The two parties are engaged in numerous lawsuits that span across the globe, in which each has accused the other of patent infringement.

The talks are said to be "working-level discussions" where "the key issue is how to dismiss all lawsuits," one unnamed source was quoted as saying. Talks are said to have reignited after Apple was found to have infringed on some Samsung patents in their most recent U.S. trial.

While both Apple and Samsung were found guilty of patent infringement, the disparity was wide: While Apple paid only $158,000 in damages, Samsung was fined $119.6 million. Still, the retrial proved advantageous for Samsung, which saw its original damages reduced from some $1.05 billion.

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As for their current talks, the source said that it's likely that royalty payments will be made in return for patents owned by each, if a deal is made. The person said that time would be needed to iron out those details.

The tone for truce building was established last Friday, when Apple and Google announced they would drop all ongoing lawsuits between the two companies. Although Apple and Google never sued each other directly, Google subsidiary Motorola had a number of ongoing lawsuits involving Apple.

In addition to dropping their legal squabbles, Apple and Google both pledged to work together on "some areas" of patent reform. The cease fire between the companies did not come with a cross-license.
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  • Reply 1 of 49
    evilutionevilution Posts: 1,397member

    Tim's gone thermonuclear suck-up on these guys.

  • Reply 3 of 49
    slicksimslicksim Posts: 52member
    If the source is The Korea Times, it's got to be true.
  • Reply 4 of 49
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    ???? Tim. The less attention Samsung gets the better.
  • Reply 5 of 49
    fracfrac Posts: 480member
    "Talks" will headline as "Apple caves" "Samsung steamrollers Apple into submission"
    Natch.
  • Reply 6 of 49
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,452member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Frac View Post



    "Talks" will headline as "Apple caves" "Samsung steamrollers Apple into submission"

    Natch.

     

    Boy are you right on! This will all be portrayed as Apple caving in, Apple failing, Apple doomed, Apple defeated.

  • Reply 7 of 49
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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

     

     

    Boy are you right on! This will all be portrayed as Apple caving in, Apple failing, Apple doomed, Apple defeated.




    And then Apple will sell a billion iPhone 6's and the analysts will scratch their pointy heads.

  • Reply 8 of 49

    "While both Apple and Samsung were found guilty of patent infringement, the disparity was wide: While Apple paid only $158,000 in damages, Samsung was fined $119.6 million. Still, the retrial proved advantageous for Samsung, which saw its original damages reduced from some $1.05 billion."

     

    The author is a hack. It is implied in the above statement that Samsung had their damages reduced from $1.05B to $120M. Bull$hit. Those are 2 separate amounts from 2 separate trials.

     

    Why does this site post mis-information?

  • Reply 9 of 49
    joindupjoindup Posts: 80member
    "Thermonuclear" as in "mutual destruction"? Maybe Apple just see all the legal time and expense could be put to better use.
  • Reply 10 of 49
    realisticrealistic Posts: 1,154member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    Following Apple's most recent legal victory in California, and the news that both it and Google have agreed to end litigation with each other, Apple is said to have renewed settlement talks with Samsung, in an effort to end all ongoing lawsuits between the two rivals.



    Citing unnamed sources involved with the discussions, The Korea Times reported on Monday that Samsung Electronics and Apple are in talks to settle their ongoing global patent disputes out of court. 



    While both Apple and Samsung were found guilty of patent infringement, the disparity was wide: While Apple paid only $158,000 in damages, Samsung was fined $119.6 million. Still, the retrial proved advantageous for Samsung, which saw its original damages reduced from some $1.05 billion.

    A new low in AI reporting. Combining the results from two different trials incorrectly in the same article and paragraph even though they had nothing to do with each other.

  • Reply 11 of 49
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,408member
    "While both Apple and Samsung were found guilty of patent infringement, the disparity was wide: While Apple paid only <a href="http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/02/jury-reaches-verdict-in-apple-v-samsung-patent-trial" style="border-style:none;" target="_blank">$158,000 in damages</a>
    , Samsung was fined $119.6 million. Still, the retrial proved advantageous for Samsung, which saw its original damages reduced from some <a href="http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/08/24/jury_reaches_verdict_in_apple_v_samsung_trial" style="border-style:none;" target="_blank">$1.05 billion</a>
    ."

    The author is a hack. It is implied in the above statement that Samsung had their damages reduced from $1.05B to $120M. Bull$hit. Those are 2 separate amounts from 2 separate trials.

    Why does this site post mis-information?

    Never come here expecting news or accuracy. Everything is assumed to be idle rumors or propaganda.
  • Reply 12 of 49
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,740member

    Why would Apple trust Samsung to hold up their end of the bargain?  Is there anything in the past several years that would indicate Samsung would follow through on any agreement that might be negotiated, or would they continue to copy features on a wholesale basis?

  • Reply 13 of 49
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,740member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MarkyMarc43 View Post

     

    Why does this site post mis-information?


     

    Page views.  Specifically, ad impressions.

  • Reply 14 of 49
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,452member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John.B View Post

     

    Why would Apple trust Samsung to hold up their end of the bargain?  Is there anything in the past several years that would indicate Samsung would follow through on any agreement that might be negotiated, or would they continue to copy features on a wholesale basis?


     

    Samsung will continue to do what it does. This will be seen as capitulation by Apple. 

  • Reply 15 of 49
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,165member
    john.b wrote: »
    Why would Apple trust Samsung to hold up their end of the bargain?  Is there anything in the past several years that would indicate Samsung would follow through on any agreement that might be negotiated, or would they continue to copy features on a wholesale basis?

    Assuming there's any truth to the rumor why wouldn't you assume Tim Cook knows just what he's doing and is the better judge of what's right for Apple? That's been a common theme.
  • Reply 16 of 49
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Is this why Apple stock is up over 1% this morning when the rest of the market is pretty much flat?
  • Reply 17 of 49
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,408member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Is this why Apple stock is up over 1% this morning when the rest of the market is pretty much flat?

    One can never really assign a reason to that which is unreasonable, but it's a nice bump this morning so far. I presume trading will continue to be volatile up until the split.
  • Reply 18 of 49
    chipsychipsy Posts: 287member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

     

     

    Samsung will continue to do what it does. This will be seen as capitulation by Apple. 


    Isn't it a little early to worry about things like that. Remember we've been here before (several times) and it always failed.

  • Reply 19 of 49
    slicksimslicksim Posts: 52member
    Before you guys get too hot and bothered, can I remind you that the writer of this click bait article clearly can't add up, and further more, the article is based on hear say printed in The Korea Times.....and relax!
  • Reply 20 of 49
    ericthehalfbeeericthehalfbee Posts: 4,284member
    lkrupp wrote: »
    Boy are you right on! This will all be portrayed as Apple caving in, Apple failing, Apple doomed, Apple defeated.
    I've said this before and it bears repeating. While Apple and Motorola/Google never gave us any details (leaving people to speculate), I don't think Apple would allow that this time. I'm convinced if they do settle that Apple will want to publish some details so people will know they "won". Something like:

    "Apple today has announced a licensing agreement with Samsung where our patent portfolios will be cross licensed. Samsung will also agree to pay royalties to Apple and have signed a 'no-cloning' provision."

    This will make it clear that A) Samsung can't copy and B) Samsung is paying Apple. This would be seen as a win for Apple.
    john.b wrote: »
    Why would Apple trust Samsung to hold up their end of the bargain?  Is there anything in the past several years that would indicate Samsung would follow through on any agreement that might be negotiated, or would they continue to copy features on a wholesale basis?
    Why not? Apple trusts Samsung Semiconductor to honor their contracts to supply processors and other components.
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