I am sure you did and I am also sure they were on Wifi.
Thanks for the proof. It clearly states that the SGS 5 is capable of SVLTE. It uses CDMA for voice, and LTE for data simultaneously. Apple chose not to include that feature.
Thanks for the proof. It clearly states that the SGS 5 is capable of SVLTE. It uses CDMA for voice, and LTE for data simultaneously. Apple chose not to include that feature.
I wouldn't word it as Apple choosing not to include it, but rather Apple isn't able to include it when choosing to include other features or capabilities, like a reduced volume/size/weight and/or additional LTE bands.
I'll be surprised if this rumoured large-screen iPhone doesn't offer SVLTE.
Hope you enjoy using that fast 4G in the few square miles in Australia where Vodafone offers it. And since I don't run a web server from my iPhone I would love to hear how you put that 42 Mb/s upload speed to any practical use given that Vodafone only offers around 2.5GB of data a month at the high end or am I mistaken. We have more LTE towers in my one state than Vodafone has in all of Australia. I pay $50 for unlimited LTE data and I can actually use it all over the country not just in a few major cities.
I am sure you did and I am also sure they were on Wifi. You specifically said SVDO and that is not possible any longer since it requires two radios. Now SVLTE is a completely other thing entirely but that is not what you originally said. Are you now trying to say you meant SVLTE?
No I specifically said SVD, simultaneous voice & data. You claimed that it only worked with wifi which isn't true. The iPhone is the only LTE phone on VZW that cannot do SVD unless it's on Wifi.
I wouldn't word it as Apple choosing not to include it, but rather Apple isn't able to include it when choosing to include other features or capabilities, like a reduced volume/size/weight and/or additional LTE bands.
I'll be surprised if this rumoured large-screen iPhone doesn't offer SVLTE.
So they chose not to choose it? It matters how it happened, the fact still remains that the reason that the iPhone doesn't support SVLTE is not VZW's fault but Apple's.
So they chose not to choose it? It matters how it happened, the fact still remains that the reason that the iPhone doesn't support SVLTE is not VZW's fault but Apple's.
Of course, I didn't think that was up for debate. Verizon's back end supports it but Apple does not. But, yes, they choose to focus on other things they deemed more important that kept SV&D on CMDA-based devices as being a viable feature.
Frankly it's why I left Verizon last year to go back to AT&T last year but it seems that anyone that has been using Verizon's network when the iPhone had SV&D all those years repeatedly states that it's not a big deal and that they never make a call and use the internet at the same time.
That "few square miles" is larger than most American states and European countries, it works where I live, work and spend most of my time.
I know how large Australia is since I have visited several times and driven all the way down the coast from Cairns to Sydney over a 3 week drive. But your point has nothing whatsoever to do with addressing the fact that those areas in purple that represent LTE cover a very tiny area of the country which is understandable since you have a very large country with a very small population not much larger than Florida and smaller than Texas or California . Once you leave the main population centers there is no LTE and in fact you are lucky to even get any service at all if you get away from the major roads. The U.S. has to cover an equally large area but also ensure both capacity and coverage for close to a population around 15X as large. I notice you failed to answer my question as to what advantage that faster upload speed actually provides in actual usage.
Of course, I didn't think that was up for debate. Verizon's back end supports it but Apple does not. But, yes, they choose to focus on other things they deemed more important that kept SV&D on CMDA-based devices as being a viable feature.
Frankly it's why I left Verizon last year to go back to AT&T last year but it seems that anyone that has been using Verizon's network when the iPhone had SV&D all those years repeatedly states that it's not a big deal and that they never make a call and use the internet at the same time.
In all fairness, when you've never used something it's easy to call it "no big deal", but I'm sure all those people are now happily using SVLTE.
SVLTE is a dead technology that is simply a rather poor bandaid approach until VoLTE arrives. It relies on 1XRTT which is a 2G technology for voice and if you have ever spoken to someone on Verizon while they used data you probably noticed how poor the audio quality sounded. And not all phones have that feature as you suggested. The ones that did only did so as a last ditch effort to try and stem iPhone sales. It didn't work.
Apple has no need to implement a band aid technology that will very soon be terminated. The iPhone can sell without poorly implemented gimmicks.
SVLTE is a dead technology that is simply a rather poor bandaid approach until VoLTE arrives. It relies on 1XRTT which is a 2G technology for voice and if you have ever spoken to someone on Verizon while they used data you probably noticed how poor the audio quality sounded. And not all phones have that feature as you suggested. The ones that did only did so as a last ditch effort to try and stem iPhone sales. It didn't work.
Apple has no need to implement a band aid technology that will very soon be terminated. The iPhone can sell without poorly implemented gimmicks.
Interesting take. Do you have any thoughts when VoLTE will arrive insides that Verizon will completely support it for their LTE network and therefor more it an easy feature for Apple to adopt?
Interesting take. Do you have any thoughts when VoLTE will arrive insides that Verizon will completely support it for their LTE network and therefor more it an easy feature for Apple to adopt?
Your guess is as good as mine. But I do know that SVLTE is very gimmicky with some poor tradeoffs and we both know Apple doesn't like those type of compromises. Verizon is the only one who has decided to run dual transmission paths for LTE and pay the price accordingly to allow SVLTE. This is not a network issue, it is a device issue. The more bands you add, it becomes more and more difficult and expensive to try to keep dual path transmission for LTE and a 3G voice technology to be used together. It also becomes really difficult when one of those bands is TDD which is why Sprint will not attempt that with 2.5Ghz which is TDD. The iPhone 6 will certainly include support for band 41 which is the repurposed Clearwire band also because both Softbank in Japan as well as China also have need for it. As far as VoLTE they have been saying by the end of 2014 we will start seeing it. Metro PCS actually had begun implementing VoLTE before the T-Mo takeover. Short answer is when it makes sense to them financially and they see a benefit to switching off circuit based calls.
I know how large Australia is since I have visited several times and driven all the way down the coast from Cairns to Sydney over a 3 week drive. But your point has nothing whatsoever to do with addressing the fact that those areas in purple that represent LTE cover a very tiny area of the country which is understandable since you have a very large country with a very small population not much larger than Florida and smaller than Texas or California . Once you leave the main population centers there is no LTE and in fact you are lucky to even get any service at all if you get away from the major roads. The U.S. has to cover an equally large area but also ensure both capacity and coverage for close to a population around 15X as large. I notice you failed to answer my question as to what advantage that faster upload speed actually provides in actual usage.
96% of the population live in the Vodafone coverage area.
Near instantaneous uploads of photo's, video snapchats, Safari is snappier.
As far as downloads go, it takes a few seconds to get a song from iTunes, for example.
We live in an age of instant gratification, fast Internet is a part of that.
96% of the population live in the Vodafone coverage area.
Near instantaneous uploads of photo's, video snapchats, Safari is snappier.
As far as downloads go, it takes a few seconds to get a song from iTunes, for example.
We live in an age of instant gratification, fast Internet is a part of that.
Yeah and you might have a point if my speediest was slow which it wasn't. I can do all those things as well and pay half as much as you pay and also get unlimited data to boot. What are you limited to, around 2.5GB? You won't be uploading too many photos with that crappy limit. Your trolling in the iMessage thread and many other threads shows you are not interested in conversation as much as simply trolling.
Yeah and you might have a point if my speediest was slow which it wasn't. I can do all those things as well and pay half as much as you pay and also get unlimited data to boot. What are you limited to, around 2.5GB? You won't be uploading too many photos with that crappy limit. Your trolling in the iMessage thread and many other threads shows you are not interested in conversation as much as simply trolling.
As I sit here eating my lunch, thought I'd run a quick speedtest.
Gosh, now that they have all of this speed and stuff, maybe you think they would let me talk AND use data at the same time? Besides the holes in the network, not being able to do voice and data at the same time is the worst thing about switching to Verizon.
SVLTE is a dead technology that is simply a rather poor bandaid approach until VoLTE arrives. It relies on 1XRTT which is a 2G technology for voice and if you have ever spoken to someone on Verizon while they used data you probably noticed how poor the audio quality sounded. And not all phones have that feature as you suggested. The ones that did only did so as a last ditch effort to try and stem iPhone sales. It didn't work.
Apple has no need to implement a band aid technology that will very soon be terminated. The iPhone can sell without poorly implemented gimmicks.
Full dependence on VoLTE is years away. The CDMA network isn't going away anytime soon.
Btw I do SVLTE all the time and there's no discernable drop in call quality and I couldn't why there ever would if the call is over CDMA, and the data is LTE.
Gosh, now that they have all of this speed and stuff, maybe you think they would let me talk AND use data at the same time? Besides the holes in the network, not being able to do voice and data at the same time is the worst thing about switching to Verizon.
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Thanks for the proof. It clearly states that the SGS 5 is capable of SVLTE. It uses CDMA for voice, and LTE for data simultaneously. Apple chose not to include that feature.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6295/why-the-iphone-5-lacks-simultaneous-voice-and-lte-or-evdo-svlte-svdo-support-
I wouldn't word it as Apple choosing not to include it, but rather Apple isn't able to include it when choosing to include other features or capabilities, like a reduced volume/size/weight and/or additional LTE bands.
I'll be surprised if this rumoured large-screen iPhone doesn't offer SVLTE.
That "few square miles" is larger than most American states and European countries, it works where I live, work and spend most of my time.
No I specifically said SVD, simultaneous voice & data. You claimed that it only worked with wifi which isn't true. The iPhone is the only LTE phone on VZW that cannot do SVD unless it's on Wifi.
So they chose not to choose it?
Of course, I didn't think that was up for debate. Verizon's back end supports it but Apple does not. But, yes, they choose to focus on other things they deemed more important that kept SV&D on CMDA-based devices as being a viable feature.
Frankly it's why I left Verizon last year to go back to AT&T last year but it seems that anyone that has been using Verizon's network when the iPhone had SV&D all those years repeatedly states that it's not a big deal and that they never make a call and use the internet at the same time.
That "few square miles" is larger than most American states and European countries, it works where I live, work and spend most of my time.
I know how large Australia is since I have visited several times and driven all the way down the coast from Cairns to Sydney over a 3 week drive. But your point has nothing whatsoever to do with addressing the fact that those areas in purple that represent LTE cover a very tiny area of the country which is understandable since you have a very large country with a very small population not much larger than Florida and smaller than Texas or California . Once you leave the main population centers there is no LTE and in fact you are lucky to even get any service at all if you get away from the major roads. The U.S. has to cover an equally large area but also ensure both capacity and coverage for close to a population around 15X as large. I notice you failed to answer my question as to what advantage that faster upload speed actually provides in actual usage.
In all fairness, when you've never used something it's easy to call it "no big deal", but I'm sure all those people are now happily using SVLTE.
In all fairness, when you've never used something it's easy to call it "no big deal", but I'm sure all those people are now happily using SVLTE.
SVLTE is a dead technology that is simply a rather poor bandaid approach until VoLTE arrives. It relies on 1XRTT which is a 2G technology for voice and if you have ever spoken to someone on Verizon while they used data you probably noticed how poor the audio quality sounded. And not all phones have that feature as you suggested. The ones that did only did so as a last ditch effort to try and stem iPhone sales. It didn't work.
Apple has no need to implement a band aid technology that will very soon be terminated. The iPhone can sell without poorly implemented gimmicks.
Interesting take. Do you have any thoughts when VoLTE will arrive insides that Verizon will completely support it for their LTE network and therefor more it an easy feature for Apple to adopt?
That "few square miles" is larger than most American states and European countries, it works where I live, work and spend most of my time.
Daaaaaaaamn you burnt his ass to a crisp. Game Over. gwmac, time to retire from the internet for a couple years son, your ass is toast.
Interesting take. Do you have any thoughts when VoLTE will arrive insides that Verizon will completely support it for their LTE network and therefor more it an easy feature for Apple to adopt?
Your guess is as good as mine. But I do know that SVLTE is very gimmicky with some poor tradeoffs and we both know Apple doesn't like those type of compromises. Verizon is the only one who has decided to run dual transmission paths for LTE and pay the price accordingly to allow SVLTE. This is not a network issue, it is a device issue. The more bands you add, it becomes more and more difficult and expensive to try to keep dual path transmission for LTE and a 3G voice technology to be used together. It also becomes really difficult when one of those bands is TDD which is why Sprint will not attempt that with 2.5Ghz which is TDD. The iPhone 6 will certainly include support for band 41 which is the repurposed Clearwire band also because both Softbank in Japan as well as China also have need for it. As far as VoLTE they have been saying by the end of 2014 we will start seeing it. Metro PCS actually had begun implementing VoLTE before the T-Mo takeover. Short answer is when it makes sense to them financially and they see a benefit to switching off circuit based calls.
http://gigaom.com/2014/03/19/consumers-will-get-their-volte-phones-but-carriers-real-targets-are-business-users/
96% of the population live in the Vodafone coverage area.
Near instantaneous uploads of photo's, video snapchats, Safari is snappier.
As far as downloads go, it takes a few seconds to get a song from iTunes, for example.
We live in an age of instant gratification, fast Internet is a part of that.
96% of the population live in the Vodafone coverage area.
Near instantaneous uploads of photo's, video snapchats, Safari is snappier.
As far as downloads go, it takes a few seconds to get a song from iTunes, for example.
We live in an age of instant gratification, fast Internet is a part of that.
Yeah and you might have a point if my speediest was slow which it wasn't. I can do all those things as well and pay half as much as you pay and also get unlimited data to boot. What are you limited to, around 2.5GB? You won't be uploading too many photos with that crappy limit. Your trolling in the iMessage thread and many other threads shows you are not interested in conversation as much as simply trolling.
As I sit here eating my lunch, thought I'd run a quick speedtest.
Ho hum.
Full dependence on VoLTE is years away. The CDMA network isn't going away anytime soon.
Btw I do SVLTE all the time and there's no discernable drop in call quality and I couldn't why there ever would if the call is over CDMA, and the data is LTE.
Try reading the comments for why that is.
Oh, apparently Verizon wants to buy Dish now, for no other reason than AT&T purchased DirecTV.
Why is this allowed?
Frick me. My home Internet is 2.5% of that speed.