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I've seen elsewhere some argue that this is doomed to failure if it isn't open. Pardon my ignorance but what exactly do they mean by open? Apple creating software for this for Android and Windows Phone? 3rd party hardware manufacturers supporting more than iPhones? We know Apple's primarily business model is designing software and services to support hardware sales. So my guess is Apple will create a platform that will make you want to buy an iOS device. I see this as being similar to CarPlay. And if this utilizes Bluetooth LE that can't really be considered closed can it?
I've seen elsewhere some argue that this is doomed to failure if it isn't open. Pardon my ignorance but what exactly do they mean by open? Apple creating software for this for Android and Windows Phone? 3rd party hardware manufacturers supporting more than iPhones? We know Apple's primarily business model is designing software and services to support hardware sales. So my guess is Apple will create a platform that will make you want to buy an iOS device. I see this as being similar to CarPlay. And if this utilizes Bluetooth LE that can't really be considered closed can it?
Exactly, this will be used to spur more iOS device sales. If Apple offers a compelling and attractive home automation solution, and having an iPhone is the only way to use it, thats a pretty damn big differentiator. Creating an Android app would be moronic and would be naturally plagues with much added complexity in terms of reliability.
Home automation is the natural progression and it is smart of Apple to lay down the foundation before it gets to fractured or Google breaks down the door.
AppleTV would make perfect sense to be the center of a connected home for security (IP cameras, remote locks) and convenience (wirelessly controlled power outlets, switches and other devices).
I hope that Apple will adopt the current wireless protocols already established in the marketplace, such as ZigBee or Z-Wave (which are supported by heavyweights GE, Honeywell, Leviton). Then Apple can add their layer of polished applications software on top of these protocols, and an AppleTV would be perfect to tie these devices all together.
This may disrupt the current home security industry with their IP cameras and separate recording devices, or the emerging home automation market.
Exactly, this will be used to spur more iOS device sales. If Apple offers a compelling and attractive home automation solution, and having an iPhone is the only way to use it, thats a pretty damn big differentiator. Creating an Android app would be moronic and would be naturally plagues with much added complexity in terms of reliability.
Some of the freaking out over this reminds me of CarPlay, When that was announced some immediately assumed it meant their car buying decisions would revolve around what phone they used. All these people that want Apple to be "open" just need to get over it already. It's not happening. It works for Google only because they make most of their money off advertising. There's a reason Microsoft is getting into the hardware business (outside of mice and keyboards).
Apple users are 86.7% more likely to consider home automation than Android users. Yeah, I just pulled that figure out of my ass, but I'm pretty sure that the figure is not that far away from reality.
Home automation is probably not something that is cheap, and Apple households are far more likely to opt for such solutions than Android households. I saw that HP just released a brand new Android tablet that is priced at $100, and is on sale for $80 already. Anybody buying such devices are most likely not the kind of people that are thinking about any home automation. The amount of sub $100 tablets available is just disgusting. It's the opposite of environmentally friendly, they're just cheap junk, they're pollution, soon to end up in a landfill somewhere. The last thing on those people's mind is any home automation.
When home automation takes off, it'll be Apple leading the way, as usual.
Apple users are 86.7% more likely to consider home automation than Android users. Yeah, I just pulled that figure out of my ass, but I'm pretty sure that the figure is not that far away from reality.
Home automation is probably not something that is cheap, and Apple households are far more likely to opt for such solutions than Android households. I saw that HP just released a brand new Android tablet that is priced at $100, and is on sale for $80 already. Anybody buying such devices are most likely not the kind of people that are thinking about any home automation. The amount of sub $100 tablets available is just disgusting. It's the opposite of environmentally friendly, they're just cheap junk, they're pollution, soon to end up in a landfill somewhere. The last thing on those people's mind is any home automation.
When home automation takes off, it'll be Apple leading the way, as usual.
I think it's not just the price range that keeps Android users from using home automation. The security is probably a driving force with anyone who gives serious thought to it. Would you trust Android with control of your home? I wouldn't trust Android with the information I put in my iPhone/iPad, inviting that software into my home on a grand scale is a definite no-go.
So, you're saying that if it's done half-assed then it can be accomplished now.
Nope, that's not what I said but thanks for putting words into my mouth. Also, "half-assed" is a word you're using to define something you know absolutely nothing about yet. Don't see why a wireless solution is automatically "half-assed".
To be accurate, Apple would have to have been thinking, designing, and engineering along these lines for at least a year, likely several to be ready to announce the effort next week. So Google's quite recent purchase of Nest amounts to Google attempting to buy their way into a game that Apple has already been playing at.
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Now we know why Google bought Nest. This is all too funny! OMG, the copycats at Google.
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Chasing Google again then, gotta catch up /s
I have to say -- it's in my brain already.
Interesting but wouldn't the home need to be hard-wired for Apple to be able to enable this?
As Anan mentioned... this would have to be years in the future.
Mentioning pie in the sky dreams seems very unApple to me. That's Google's game.
I've seen elsewhere some argue that this is doomed to failure if it isn't open. Pardon my ignorance but what exactly do they mean by open? Apple creating software for this for Android and Windows Phone? 3rd party hardware manufacturers supporting more than iPhones? We know Apple's primarily business model is designing software and services to support hardware sales. So my guess is Apple will create a platform that will make you want to buy an iOS device. I see this as being similar to CarPlay. And if this utilizes Bluetooth LE that can't really be considered closed can it?
Exactly, this will be used to spur more iOS device sales. If Apple offers a compelling and attractive home automation solution, and having an iPhone is the only way to use it, thats a pretty damn big differentiator. Creating an Android app would be moronic and would be naturally plagues with much added complexity in terms of reliability.
As Anan mentioned... this would have to be years in the future.
Mentioning pie in the sky dreams seems very unApple to me. That's Google's game.
No, not necessary. Depends on implementation and scope. It can be accomplished through wifi and BL4.0.
I love it! I love it! I love it!
Home automation is the natural progression and it is smart of Apple to lay down the foundation before it gets to fractured or Google breaks down the door.
No, not necessary. Depends on implementation and scope. It can be accomplished through wifi and BL4.0.
So, you're saying that if it's done half-assed then it can be accomplished now.
AppleTV would make perfect sense to be the center of a connected home for security (IP cameras, remote locks) and convenience (wirelessly controlled power outlets, switches and other devices).
I hope that Apple will adopt the current wireless protocols already established in the marketplace, such as ZigBee or Z-Wave (which are supported by heavyweights GE, Honeywell, Leviton). Then Apple can add their layer of polished applications software on top of these protocols, and an AppleTV would be perfect to tie these devices all together.
This may disrupt the current home security industry with their IP cameras and separate recording devices, or the emerging home automation market.
And it would all tie into the iPhone and iPad.
This makes perfect sense.
Apple users are 86.7% more likely to consider home automation than Android users. Yeah, I just pulled that figure out of my ass, but I'm pretty sure that the figure is not that far away from reality.
Home automation is probably not something that is cheap, and Apple households are far more likely to opt for such solutions than Android households. I saw that HP just released a brand new Android tablet that is priced at $100, and is on sale for $80 already. Anybody buying such devices are most likely not the kind of people that are thinking about any home automation. The amount of sub $100 tablets available is just disgusting. It's the opposite of environmentally friendly, they're just cheap junk, they're pollution, soon to end up in a landfill somewhere. The last thing on those people's mind is any home automation.
When home automation takes off, it'll be Apple leading the way, as usual.
I think it's not just the price range that keeps Android users from using home automation. The security is probably a driving force with anyone who gives serious thought to it. Would you trust Android with control of your home? I wouldn't trust Android with the information I put in my iPhone/iPad, inviting that software into my home on a grand scale is a definite no-go.
So, you're saying that if it's done half-assed then it can be accomplished now.
Nope, that's not what I said but thanks for putting words into my mouth. Also, "half-assed" is a word you're using to define something you know absolutely nothing about yet. Don't see why a wireless solution is automatically "half-assed".
To be accurate, Apple would have to have been thinking, designing, and engineering along these lines for at least a year, likely several to be ready to announce the effort next week. So Google's quite recent purchase of Nest amounts to Google attempting to buy their way into a game that Apple has already been playing at.
iOS in the car
iOS in the home.
iOS in your brain.
All we need now is an iCar, an iStore an iHospital and an iAirline and we're all set. I'm hanging for an iBeer right now.
One word: iBeacons
Two words: Two words.
So Google's quite recent purchase of Nest amounts to Google attempting to buy their way into a game that Apple has already been playing at.
I wonder how many Apple users are buying Nest detectors now? I would venture to guess that the figure has dropped dramatically.
Does Apple still sell those in their stores? They should obviously pull them from the shelves now.
And I wonder how many Google users (Android) are buying Nest detectors now?
A connected home is still many years away.
You have to start somewhere. Fully connected is still far away I suppose, but partially connected is a good place to start.