Know what Google calls their beta software? "Beta."
Know what Apple calls their beta software? "Version 1.0"
Know what Microsoft calls their beta software? "New and improved version 2.1"
I really wondered why Apple didn't call this a beta when it first arrived. That would have caused far less complaints. Look at the two years that Siri was called a beta. So it wasn't as though there wasn't a recent precedent. In fact, Siri was still being called a beta a year after Maps came out.
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Know what Google calls their beta software? "Beta."<br />
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Know what Apple calls their beta software? "Version 1.0"<br />
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I really wondered why Apple didn't call this a beta when it first arrived. That would have caused far less complaints. Look at the two years that Siri was called a beta. So it wasn't as though there wasn't a recent precedent. In fact, Siri was still being called a beta a year after Maps came out.
I noticed Apple sometimes fails in a big, splashy way (Maps, MobileMe, FCPX), but steadily improves their software in a most quiet, low-profile manner. It really needs to be the other way around.
Here in Atlanta a major exit/connection between to highways that opened several weeks ago was on Google maps the day after it opened. Has yet to show up on Apple Maps
Apple Maps still doesn't have the 400 flyover bridge?
I use Apple Maps exclusively (I refuse to install google apps on my devices), and it works well for the most part (excellent UI and directions). But there are some very frustrating, and fundamental flaws. I currently live in a large US city (Houston) and twice recently I have made a basic search and was sent to some location in a foreign country. I searched "top golf" and was taken to England; I searched for "813 saint emmanuel" and was taken to Belgium. Sometimes if I type in the name of my city I'll get the correct result, other times not. I reported these a couple weeks ago but no corrections yet, although I did use a bit of an angry tone, so maybe the recipient wasn't particularly motivated to help me out. (Hopefully they do make these corrections though, as these are two very popular locations in Houston, the first being a great combination of driving range, food, and booze, the second being the location for the Houston food truck park).
And that would add another layer, which means time, to the process. In the long run, it might not save them any money either.
If that were the case -- especially for a trivial task such as checking whether an address is right, against some global database or set of databases -- a considerable, and very successful outsourcing industry (that performs far more sophisticated tasks for many dozens of sophisticated companies similar to Apple) would not exist.
Moreover, it's not as though Apple does no outsourcing.
That is exactly why I literally never use Apple Maps on the phone. The maps are fine, directions too. But the SEARCH, ie getting from an address to a point on the Apple Map is just really bad. This is where Google - the search company - is clearly years ahead.
And your examples are the norm more than anything else.
In Australia, Maps still has fundamental systematic flaws.
Whole towns are not labelled. As you zoom into a region, Maps will show you a random small suburb as if it were a city. And not show you the city. Not show you ANY of the cities and tows in the region. But show you a random suburb from one or two of them.
Regional council areas (shires) are often shown with a location marker as if they are a town. Often the regional name does correspond to any city/town/suburb, and the location marker is sitting in an empty tract of forest.
For the average user, basic problems like these greatly undermines confidence in a map. You start using it and quickly your basic concept of a region (the large cities and towns, for starters) isn't reflected on the map, you doubt if it knows the small details.
And yeah, search results are bizarre. Search for such simple generic things, and get results in another country.
Ok, definitely good news. But if I understand this correctly it doesn't mean that user corrections will be adapted within one day but just that it updates once a day. So that still could mean quite some time between your report and the fix. Could well be just smaller batches once a day instead of larger batches once a week. Which wouldn't actually solve the update speed between report and fix persé or just a tad.
I have made updates to Google Maps weeks ago and they still have not fix them. I still do not understand how they get business locations wrong. My tomtom find them but my android phone running google maps can not see to find places which have been at the same location since they open many years ago.
And yeah, search results are bizarre. Search for such simple generic things, and get results in another country.
I never understood this about both Google Maps and Apple Maps. If you are zoomed into an area and initiate a search, it should warn you if your search is going to move to a new location more than, let's say, twice the distance of your current zoom level. If you are looking for a type of business, it should say something like "There are no matches near your current view. The closest location is x miles away." As it is now, it could take you to a completely different location miles from where you were exploring, requiring several minutes to manually return to the previous location and zoom level.
I notice that some people still like to poke fun at Apple maps when it is mentioned, and those same ignoramuses need to be made aware that their outdated memes and stupid jokes are incorrect, but that probably wont stop them of course, even if they are made aware of new facts.
I agree that it probably won't stop them. I see people spout tired and outdated Android memes/jokes here all the time. New facts seem to have no bearing when there are old facts that better suit their agendas.
I had not submitted any problems for a while, but Apple has added a new option for you to be notified when the problem has been fixed. I submitted four problems 13 days ago, and I received a notice 7 days later that one of the problems had already been fixed. (The other three have not yet been fixed.)
Given that I have not seen any changes being made to correct problems I reported a year or two ago, this represents a huge improvement. I hope this responsiveness will continue!
I agree that it probably won't stop them. I see people spout tired and outdated Android memes/jokes here all the time. New facts seem to have no bearing when there are old facts that better suit their agendas.
Wow, that's crazy. What kind of an evil spirited person would ever spout tired and outdated Android memes & jokes here?
Why Apple gets vilified for their bugs more than any other company is a mystery.
If you market yourself as a premium company and charge premium prices, you better deliver a premium product. Apple charges a premium for their products and services because they "just work" and that's been their marketing strategy for a long time now. They promote themselves as someone who waits until things are just right before they release a product to the masses. Apple Maps was FAR from a premium product when it was released. That's why Apple got vilified so much. Well, that and the fact that they took away the better option from it's users while forcing their inferior solution onto that user base. All that said, most of my Apple using friends are now very satisfied with the current state of Apple Maps. We live in a very large metropolitan area in the US and Apple Maps can almost always do what they need it to. There are still rare occasions where it can't, but those times are very rare and they have Google Maps as a backup for those occasions.
Does anyone know if the app for both iOS & OS X has been updated to where we have more routing options when we wish to avoid highways, toll roads, ferries and dirt roads, etc.? The freeway is very congested most of the times when I leave to start my swing shift, that I sometimes have to resort to Waze or Google Maps since both the OS X and iOS Maps app versions does not have these routing options. The inclusion of them would make the app so perfect that I would consider deleting both Google Maps and Waze.
In north texas i have had no major issues with maps. I routinely use siri for maps now since i hate typing for maps info. Both siri and maps seems to get me where i want to go without issues. Considering deleting the google maps app but havent brought myself to do it... "Just in case" i am travelling and apple can't hack it.
Google has been doing for longer but apple will catch up fast...
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Know what Google calls their beta software? "Beta."
Know what Apple calls their beta software? "Version 1.0"
Know what Microsoft calls their beta software? "New and improved version 2.1"
I really wondered why Apple didn't call this a beta when it first arrived. That would have caused far less complaints. Look at the two years that Siri was called a beta. So it wasn't as though there wasn't a recent precedent. In fact, Siri was still being called a beta a year after Maps came out.I noticed Apple sometimes fails in a big, splashy way (Maps, MobileMe, FCPX), but steadily improves their software in a most quiet, low-profile manner. It really needs to be the other way around.
Here in Atlanta a major exit/connection between to highways that opened several weeks ago was on Google maps the day after it opened. Has yet to show up on Apple Maps
Apple Maps still doesn't have the 400 flyover bridge?
I use Apple Maps exclusively (I refuse to install google apps on my devices), and it works well for the most part (excellent UI and directions). But there are some very frustrating, and fundamental flaws. I currently live in a large US city (Houston) and twice recently I have made a basic search and was sent to some location in a foreign country. I searched "top golf" and was taken to England; I searched for "813 saint emmanuel" and was taken to Belgium. Sometimes if I type in the name of my city I'll get the correct result, other times not. I reported these a couple weeks ago but no corrections yet, although I did use a bit of an angry tone, so maybe the recipient wasn't particularly motivated to help me out. (Hopefully they do make these corrections though, as these are two very popular locations in Houston, the first being a great combination of driving range, food, and booze, the second being the location for the Houston food truck park).
If that were the case -- especially for a trivial task such as checking whether an address is right, against some global database or set of databases -- a considerable, and very successful outsourcing industry (that performs far more sophisticated tasks for many dozens of sophisticated companies similar to Apple) would not exist.
Moreover, it's not as though Apple does no outsourcing.
I noticed the report a problem options have been greatly improved in iOS 8 beta too. Finally!
Nope
That is exactly why I literally never use Apple Maps on the phone. The maps are fine, directions too. But the SEARCH, ie getting from an address to a point on the Apple Map is just really bad. This is where Google - the search company - is clearly years ahead.
And your examples are the norm more than anything else.
Whole towns are not labelled. As you zoom into a region, Maps will show you a random small suburb as if it were a city. And not show you the city. Not show you ANY of the cities and tows in the region. But show you a random suburb from one or two of them.
Regional council areas (shires) are often shown with a location marker as if they are a town. Often the regional name does correspond to any city/town/suburb, and the location marker is sitting in an empty tract of forest.
For the average user, basic problems like these greatly undermines confidence in a map. You start using it and quickly your basic concept of a region (the large cities and towns, for starters) isn't reflected on the map, you doubt if it knows the small details.
And yeah, search results are bizarre. Search for such simple generic things, and get results in another country.
All reported, see what they can do.
And yeah, search results are bizarre. Search for such simple generic things, and get results in another country.
I never understood this about both Google Maps and Apple Maps. If you are zoomed into an area and initiate a search, it should warn you if your search is going to move to a new location more than, let's say, twice the distance of your current zoom level. If you are looking for a type of business, it should say something like "There are no matches near your current view. The closest location is x miles away." As it is now, it could take you to a completely different location miles from where you were exploring, requiring several minutes to manually return to the previous location and zoom level.
Given that I have not seen any changes being made to correct problems I reported a year or two ago, this represents a huge improvement. I hope this responsiveness will continue!
I agree that it probably won't stop them. I see people spout tired and outdated Android memes/jokes here all the time. New facts seem to have no bearing when there are old facts that better suit their agendas.
Wow, that's crazy. What kind of an evil spirited person would ever spout tired and outdated Android memes & jokes here?
Why Apple gets vilified for their bugs more than any other company is a mystery.
If you market yourself as a premium company and charge premium prices, you better deliver a premium product. Apple charges a premium for their products and services because they "just work" and that's been their marketing strategy for a long time now. They promote themselves as someone who waits until things are just right before they release a product to the masses. Apple Maps was FAR from a premium product when it was released. That's why Apple got vilified so much. Well, that and the fact that they took away the better option from it's users while forcing their inferior solution onto that user base. All that said, most of my Apple using friends are now very satisfied with the current state of Apple Maps. We live in a very large metropolitan area in the US and Apple Maps can almost always do what they need it to. There are still rare occasions where it can't, but those times are very rare and they have Google Maps as a backup for those occasions.
You're an idiot -- you know nothing at all about Apple.
Get out of here.
(Go ahead, report me. I'll probably get a warning. But I had to call you for what you are).
Google has been doing for longer but apple will catch up fast...
Don't let the fandroids bother you. Most of their trolling stems from insecurity and other personality disorders.