Come on people. 4.7" is fine to fit in pocket and use. Apple will keep sizes that sell to the masses. This means that if what they offer does not work for you you are the exception not the rule.
A recent RBC Capital Markets survey of 705 would-be iPhone buyers showed 64% wanting the next iPhone model even if it's bigger, but only 26% were interested in one with a 5.5" display.
Sorry for the convoluted way I stated this, but that's the result of the flawed and leading way RBC presented the question to survey participants.
I don't care if somebody chooses the 4.7 or the 5.5. Choose whatever the hell you like. As long as Apple moves a crapload of phones, which they most certainly will, then that's what counts.
It's funny how Android makers all abandoned competing with Apple in the 4" phone space, because none of them could make a decent phone, so they had to move to larger phones. When the larger iPhone gets released, I am fully expecting that to destroy everything else out there!
Android makers will have nowhere to run! They can't go smaller! Apple already owns that space and they can't go much larger either, because then you're in iPad Mini territory, and we all know that Apple owns tablets too! Android makers and Fandroids are stuck! Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Can't go down, can't go up! Screw them all!
It's just so large...I really hope we get a 4" iPhone 6.
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Originally Posted by Blastdoor
A few thoughts:
1. one-handed use is nice, but there are clearly tradeoffs. I can understand that some users might want to sacrifice one handed use for the benefits of a larger device. I think it's fine that those users are able to buy an iPhone that better suits their needs.
2. I also hope we get a 4" iPhone 6, and I hope it's not crippled somehow. Apple should not impose artificial tradeoffs between devices.
3. I recognize that there may legitimately be some features that can be added to a big iPhone that can't be added to a small iPhone. For example, the thermals are probably different on the big iPhone (so maybe the CPU can run a little faster) and the big iPhone has more room for the battery (meaning it could be thinner, or have longer battery life).
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Originally Posted by mjtomlin
I'm of the opinion that when it comes to mobile devices, mobility is key, so a smaller device is better than carrying around a larger device. I like to keep my phone in my back pocket, the current iPhone is about as large as I'd ever want to go (maybe even slightly larger - although I do miss the 3.5" models). However I know a lot of people who do not keep their phones in their pocket, they set them on the bar or table or just hold it in their hands, so I can see that a larger device wouldn't be a hindrance to them.
I honestly don't really care what the damned screen size is as long as the overall size of the device doesn't get much bigger (or they keep the 4" phone around). I am also going to be extremely disappointed if these leaked parts are real. I think Apple can do a MUCH better job than just stretching the old design. Last year with iOS 7 Jony concentrated on a new radical design for the software. I think this year, we'll see a different hardware design; if Apple is going to move to a much larger display size, I'm pretty sure they'll rework the entire design.
iPhone 6... 4" and 4.7"
And I still believe any 5.5" display will not end up in an iPhone, but rather a new iPod.
If Apple makes a new 4 inch iPhone it'll likely be a plastic cased iPhone 5S sold for $99 on contract. The new iPhone 6 (or whatever it's called) will likely only be available at 4.7 inches, with the possibility of a 5.5 inch Phablet version.
Android makers will have nowhere to run! They can't go smaller! Apple already owns that space and they can't go much larger either, because then you're in iPad Mini territory, and we all know that Apple owns tablets too! Android makers and Fandroids are stuck! Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Can't go down, can't go up! Screw them all!
At what point is a phablet no longer a phablet? Where is the cut off size?
I swear, if I ever saw some anonymous person sitting on a train or bus and holding up a 13" phablet to their head and using it as a phone, I would have no choice but to be pointing my finger in their general direction and I would be laughing out loud at how stupid they look. I don't think that I would be able to control myself." src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
I'm curious as to whether the front glass being sanded off at the edges like that is an indicator of it being sapphire instead of glass now. I can't believe that with all the glass front pieces being passed around in China that no one has bothered to test it to see one way or the other. It would only take a few moments to find out.
iPhone Air 5.5 with A8 and 16GB: $299 (on contract) iPhone Air 4.7 with A8 and 16GB: $199 (on contract) iPhone Color* 4.0 with A7 and 16GB: $99 (on contract) iPhone 5C 4.0 with A6 and 8GB: $0 (on contract)
*The iPhone "Color" is an iPhone 5S repackaged in a plastic case just like the 5C, but it will include Touch ID.
Offering a phone with 8GB storage these days is laughable. Heck Apple should get rid of 16GB and have 32/64/128 configuration at current prices. Yeah the bean counters in Apple finance would probably get heartburn but I think they'd get over it once they saw the massive increase in sales.
A 4.7" screen is about 0.3" wider and 0.6" taller than a 4" screen. Also, Apple may reduce the borders around the screen, so the iPhone 6's overall dimensions don't even change by that much. So let's don't exaggerate the difference. It will be modest.
Offering a phone with 8GB storage these days is laughable. Heck Apple should get rid of 16GB and have 32/64/128 configuration at current prices. Yeah the bean counters in Apple finance would probably get heartburn but I think they'd get over it once they saw the massive increase in sales.
I agree with you, but I don't think this is the year Apple doubles storage for the iPhone. Sales are going to be through the roof, regardless, because this is the first large screen phone Apple is selling. So that being the case, Apple may as well profit from people paying $100 for minimal storage upgrades for one more year.
I think that Apple will double storage on the iPads this year though, with the iPhone getting 32/64/128 options next year.
Offering a phone with 8GB storage these days is laughable. Heck Apple should get rid of 16GB and have 32/64/128 configuration at current prices. Yeah the bean counters in Apple finance would probably get heartburn but I think they'd get over it once they saw the massive increase in sales.
I disagree. 16GB still remains a good choice of size for the lowest phone. I don't want Apple to be giving away extra space for free. And I also think that 8GB is acceptable for a third world phone.
If somebody needs more space, then no problem, you simply choose a model that has more space.
At what point is a phablet no longer a phablet? Where is the cut off size?
It's a made up word, but it is generally understood to be any size "between a phone and a tablet." But if average phones become phablets, and tablets don't get bigger, I would argue that the term becomes meaningless.
Tablets could get bigger, but so far, there hasn't been a race to upsize tablets.
I find it highly unlikely- dare I say impossible- that the 6 will have an A7. Itll be A8 for both and the "6c" (if thats what its called) or "5S" will be the A7- todays specs. If I were to guess I'd guess we'd see a 4.7 6, a 5.5 6, a 4 5S (99), and a 4 5C (free). Not sure why they'd change it up this year since thats how its been for years.
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Originally Posted by TheWhiteFalcon
The A6 is going away, excepting the massive iPad 4.
The 'free' iPhone will likely have the A6 as well- which, according to the past, would be the 5c.
iPhone Air 5.5 with A8 and 16GB: $299 (on contract)
iPhone Air 4.7 with A8 and 16GB: $199 (on contract)
iPhone Color* 4.0 with A7 and 16GB: $99 (on contract)
iPhone 5C 4.0 with A6 and 8GB: $0 (on contract)
*The iPhone "Color" is an iPhone 5S repackaged in a plastic case just like the 5C, but it will include Touch ID.
I think this is most accurate from any of the other kind of crazy ones ya'll are predicting. Although I think they'll keep the 5S as is and not put a plastic case on it. Also- the 4.7 wouldn't be called the Air if the 5.5 is.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
Offering a phone with 8GB storage these days is laughable. Heck Apple should get rid of 16GB and have 32/64/128 configuration at current prices. Yeah the bean counters in Apple finance would probably get heartburn but I think they'd get over it once they saw the massive increase in sales.
Except its not just the cost of the storage they're thinking of. That's being simple-minded. It isnt the $5 difference in storage costs.
They are calculating how many "upgrades" theyd lose from people who pay $100 extra for 32gb- which is what I do. I'd spend $650 instead of $750. Hey- I'm all for that- but it goes beyond "bean counting" when you're talking $100-$300.
I'm with blackbook on this- no need for Apple to upgrade to 32gb this round. Why? Because they can afford it and out of the goodness of their own hearts? They won't sell more- they just won't make as much money. 32gb base will likely be a "6s" feature.
Tablets could get bigger, but so far, there hasn't been a race to upsize tablets.
I think it has to do with the same reason that Android makers have abandoned the small phone market.
Large Android tablets (around 10" or so) have all been failures, and it seems to me that Android makers are concentrating on smaller tablets instead, around 7-8". Look at the Google Nexus 7, the Kindle Fire tablets etc.
I don't think that there is a single large sized Android tablet that has ever done well.
Why does the home button still need to be so big? it could be smaller and thus the lower and upper space off the screen could be tighten up and the phone would physically be much smaller... They could easily get 1/2 inch if they did that...
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A recent RBC Capital Markets survey of 705 would-be iPhone buyers showed 64% wanting the next iPhone model even if it's bigger, but only 26% were interested in one with a 5.5" display.
Sorry for the convoluted way I stated this, but that's the result of the flawed and leading way RBC presented the question to survey participants.
http://qz.com/225557/most-people-want-a-bigger-iphone-some-are-even-willing-to-pay-extra-for-it/
It surprises me more people are interested in a "free" 5C than a $99 5S.
Bring it on! I welcome both sizes!
I don't care if somebody chooses the 4.7 or the 5.5. Choose whatever the hell you like. As long as Apple moves a crapload of phones, which they most certainly will, then that's what counts.
It's funny how Android makers all abandoned competing with Apple in the 4" phone space, because none of them could make a decent phone, so they had to move to larger phones. When the larger iPhone gets released, I am fully expecting that to destroy everything else out there!
Android makers will have nowhere to run! They can't go smaller! Apple already owns that space and they can't go much larger either, because then you're in iPad Mini territory, and we all know that Apple owns tablets too! Android makers and Fandroids are stuck! Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Can't go down, can't go up! Screw them all!
It's just so large...I really hope we get a 4" iPhone 6.
A few thoughts:
1. one-handed use is nice, but there are clearly tradeoffs. I can understand that some users might want to sacrifice one handed use for the benefits of a larger device. I think it's fine that those users are able to buy an iPhone that better suits their needs.
2. I also hope we get a 4" iPhone 6, and I hope it's not crippled somehow. Apple should not impose artificial tradeoffs between devices.
3. I recognize that there may legitimately be some features that can be added to a big iPhone that can't be added to a small iPhone. For example, the thermals are probably different on the big iPhone (so maybe the CPU can run a little faster) and the big iPhone has more room for the battery (meaning it could be thinner, or have longer battery life).
I'm of the opinion that when it comes to mobile devices, mobility is key, so a smaller device is better than carrying around a larger device. I like to keep my phone in my back pocket, the current iPhone is about as large as I'd ever want to go (maybe even slightly larger - although I do miss the 3.5" models). However I know a lot of people who do not keep their phones in their pocket, they set them on the bar or table or just hold it in their hands, so I can see that a larger device wouldn't be a hindrance to them.
I honestly don't really care what the damned screen size is as long as the overall size of the device doesn't get much bigger (or they keep the 4" phone around). I am also going to be extremely disappointed if these leaked parts are real. I think Apple can do a MUCH better job than just stretching the old design. Last year with iOS 7 Jony concentrated on a new radical design for the software. I think this year, we'll see a different hardware design; if Apple is going to move to a much larger display size, I'm pretty sure they'll rework the entire design.
iPhone 6... 4" and 4.7"
And I still believe any 5.5" display will not end up in an iPhone, but rather a new iPod.
If Apple makes a new 4 inch iPhone it'll likely be a plastic cased iPhone 5S sold for $99 on contract. The new iPhone 6 (or whatever it's called) will likely only be available at 4.7 inches, with the possibility of a 5.5 inch Phablet version.
They can always make a 13" Android phablet.
Possibility of the new lineup?
iPhone6 Air: 5.5" (A8)
iPhone6: 4.7" (A7)
iPhone 6c: 4" (A6)
Large
Medium
Small
Fast
Kinda Fast
Not Very Fast
I think... The line up will be (prices are with 2yr contract / and without)...
iPhone 6: 4.7" (A8, 32GB) $299 / $750
iPhone 6: 4" (A8, 32GB) $199 / $650
iPhone 6c: 4" (A7, 16GB) $99 / $550
iPhone 5c: 4" (A6, 8GB) $0 / $350
Yes, I'm going to will the 5.5" iPhone out of existence, even though it doesn't really exist yet. ;-)
Possibility of the new lineup?
iPhone6 Air: 5.5" (A8)
iPhone6: 4.7" (A7)
iPhone 6c: 4" (A6)
Large
Medium
Small
Fast
Kinda Fast
Not Very Fast
I think we'll see this:
iPhone Air 5.5 with A8 and 16GB: $299 (on contract)
iPhone Air 4.7 with A8 and 16GB: $199 (on contract)
iPhone Color* 4.0 with A7 and 16GB: $99 (on contract)
iPhone 5C 4.0 with A6 and 8GB: $0 (on contract)
*The iPhone "Color" is an iPhone 5S repackaged in a plastic case just like the 5C, but it will include Touch ID.
They can alway make a 13" Android phablet.
Apple beat them to it with the continuity features on Yosemite
They can alway make a 13" Android phablet.
At what point is a phablet no longer a phablet? Where is the cut off size?
I swear, if I ever saw some anonymous person sitting on a train or bus and holding up a 13" phablet to their head and using it as a phone, I would have no choice but to be pointing my finger in their general direction and I would be laughing out loud at how stupid they look. I don't think that I would be able to control myself.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
I'm curious as to whether the front glass being sanded off at the edges like that is an indicator of it being sapphire instead of glass now. I can't believe that with all the glass front pieces being passed around in China that no one has bothered to test it to see one way or the other. It would only take a few moments to find out.
Offering a phone with 8GB storage these days is laughable. Heck Apple should get rid of 16GB and have 32/64/128 configuration at current prices. Yeah the bean counters in Apple finance would probably get heartburn but I think they'd get over it once they saw the massive increase in sales.
I agree with you, but I don't think this is the year Apple doubles storage for the iPhone. Sales are going to be through the roof, regardless, because this is the first large screen phone Apple is selling. So that being the case, Apple may as well profit from people paying $100 for minimal storage upgrades for one more year.
I think that Apple will double storage on the iPads this year though, with the iPhone getting 32/64/128 options next year.
Offering a phone with 8GB storage these days is laughable. Heck Apple should get rid of 16GB and have 32/64/128 configuration at current prices. Yeah the bean counters in Apple finance would probably get heartburn but I think they'd get over it once they saw the massive increase in sales.
I disagree. 16GB still remains a good choice of size for the lowest phone. I don't want Apple to be giving away extra space for free. And I also think that 8GB is acceptable for a third world phone.
If somebody needs more space, then no problem, you simply choose a model that has more space.
It's a made up word, but it is generally understood to be any size "between a phone and a tablet." But if average phones become phablets, and tablets don't get bigger, I would argue that the term becomes meaningless.
Tablets could get bigger, but so far, there hasn't been a race to upsize tablets.
Possibility of the new lineup?
iPhone6 Air: 5.5" (A8)
iPhone6: 4.7" (A7)
iPhone 6c: 4" (A6)
Large
Medium
Small
Fast
Kinda Fast
Not Very Fast
I find it highly unlikely- dare I say impossible- that the 6 will have an A7. Itll be A8 for both and the "6c" (if thats what its called) or "5S" will be the A7- todays specs. If I were to guess I'd guess we'd see a 4.7 6, a 5.5 6, a 4 5S (99), and a 4 5C (free). Not sure why they'd change it up this year since thats how its been for years.
The A6 is going away, excepting the massive iPad 4.
The 'free' iPhone will likely have the A6 as well- which, according to the past, would be the 5c.
I think we'll see this:
iPhone Air 5.5 with A8 and 16GB: $299 (on contract)
iPhone Air 4.7 with A8 and 16GB: $199 (on contract)
iPhone Color* 4.0 with A7 and 16GB: $99 (on contract)
iPhone 5C 4.0 with A6 and 8GB: $0 (on contract)
*The iPhone "Color" is an iPhone 5S repackaged in a plastic case just like the 5C, but it will include Touch ID.
I think this is most accurate from any of the other kind of crazy ones ya'll are predicting. Although I think they'll keep the 5S as is and not put a plastic case on it. Also- the 4.7 wouldn't be called the Air if the 5.5 is.
Offering a phone with 8GB storage these days is laughable. Heck Apple should get rid of 16GB and have 32/64/128 configuration at current prices. Yeah the bean counters in Apple finance would probably get heartburn but I think they'd get over it once they saw the massive increase in sales.
Except its not just the cost of the storage they're thinking of. That's being simple-minded. It isnt the $5 difference in storage costs.
They are calculating how many "upgrades" theyd lose from people who pay $100 extra for 32gb- which is what I do. I'd spend $650 instead of $750. Hey- I'm all for that- but it goes beyond "bean counting" when you're talking $100-$300.
I'm with blackbook on this- no need for Apple to upgrade to 32gb this round. Why? Because they can afford it and out of the goodness of their own hearts? They won't sell more- they just won't make as much money. 32gb base will likely be a "6s" feature.
Tablets could get bigger, but so far, there hasn't been a race to upsize tablets.
I think it has to do with the same reason that Android makers have abandoned the small phone market.
Large Android tablets (around 10" or so) have all been failures, and it seems to me that Android makers are concentrating on smaller tablets instead, around 7-8". Look at the Google Nexus 7, the Kindle Fire tablets etc.
I don't think that there is a single large sized Android tablet that has ever done well.