If Samsung thinks they have some street 'cred' on their own without Android they will be surprised to learn that people who buy Galaxy are primarily Android fans not Samsung fans.
I used to believe this but not anymore. Samsung has plenty of street cred. If they can keep Tizen functioning somewhat like Android then many people won't ever know the difference.
You have never posted in support of Scamsung in any situation where they were in an adversarial position to Apple? I must apologize then, I could have sworn you had on many occasions.
[@]Gatorguy [/@] knows the repercussions of lying to Chuck Norris.
Who has more power? Googs or Sammy? I hope Sammy drops android and see both companies implode in mobile.
Sammy isn't gonna drop android. They've already did the math, and they'd lose. However, they can't stay with android due to the Chinese companies chewing away at their bottom end products and Apple owning the top end. So, Sammy is in a lose-lose situation.
Google, on the other hand, is in no better a situation. The people with the money to spend are more and more not buying android or using android to shop around. In other words Google's analytics are not as finely granular as they once were. Once the advertising clients see that and start demanding Google cut their advertising prices, life at Google will get worse (no more jet pack projects). Meanwhile the clock is running on Google's search patent (2 years and counting down), and iOS8 will put the bulk of iOS searchers behind a wall where their activity and interest will be mostly invisible to Google.
I see no good end game for these two crooked companies, and I find it fun to watch their tents burn.
Meanwhile the Microsoft sideshow provides its own spectacle of a clown fire department. Waaay too late and no clear plan on how to catch up, other then compete for the low end of the phone business in emerging markets.
"The phone will cost you one goat, and the service will require you bring me two chickens each month."
That's a far cry from business in the air conditioned halls of enterprise clients. How far the mighty have fallen!
If Samsung thinks they have some street 'cred' on their own without Android they will be surprised to learn that people who buy Galaxy are primarily Android fans not Samsung fans.
I used to believe this but not anymore. Samsung has plenty of street cred. If they can keep Tizen functioning somewhat like Android then many people won't ever know the difference.
...they will when they show up at the Google Play store and can't get their dose of malware.
It isn't personal. It is business and is all about money. The money for Android is in the advertising, the app store, and the collection of tracking information to best target the advertising. Samsung is likely seeing that the margins in making a handset are diminishing and the Chinese are having Samsung for lunch in China. What can you do about it? Create your own ecosystem that can run Android apps natively. Ditch Google Maps, Gmail, etc. and offer your own services and as a bridge open it up to third party bidders with the highest bidder getting first crack at it while you develop your in-house solutions.
MS does have a good mobile OS. Not great on ecosystem but that's more a result of not being popular which they can't seem to do this late in the game because they aren't popular.
I'll take your word for it then, after using every OS on a desk top they ever made I assumed it was as bad. I wondered if the out of favor thing was true, or not. MS not being popular is certainly pretty staggering to those of us who have been around before its shadow darkened the landscape.
[@]Gatorguy [/@] knows the repercussions of lying to Chuck Norris.
LOL. I actually watched that show many moons ago!
You just have to go back and read his posts during the Apple v Scamsung trials to see his leanings. Then I guess anyone that runs his master's OS is OK till they bite his master's hand.
I used to believe this but not anymore. Samsung has plenty of street cred. If they can keep Tizen functioning somewhat like Android then many people won't ever know the difference.
I agree, most of the knuckleheads buying Galaxies have no idea what OS they run.
I used to believe this but not anymore. Samsung has plenty of street cred. If they can keep Tizen functioning somewhat like Android then many people won't ever know the difference.
I'll take your word for it then, after using every OS on a desk top they ever made I assumed it was as bad. I wondered if the out of favor thing was true, or not. MS not being popular is certainly pretty staggering to those of us who have been around before its shadow darkened the landscape.
It is quite staggering how MS has been unable to parlay their popularity in desktop OS into mobile even after Apple showed them how to do it. Win 8 isn't bad, but it's not good either.
What else are they supposed to do? Sell exactly the same watch in terms of capabilities as its competitors?
That's what Google wants. They're saying, here, do exactly what everyone else is doing. May the cheapest version win.
Every company wants to be Apple and charge a premium for being unique valuable and different.
Assuming Scammy shafts Google, and I hope they do, who is left of any importance selling Android crap? I don't follow Android / Google news at all, other than reading Gatorguy here on AI, so I really don't know. Doesn't Google make some hardware themselves? Microsoft's downfall may have begun when they went into hardware so I hope so.
Hilarious, open source is a snake that has turned to bite the hand that reared it('s ugly head lol)!
This is all moot regardless, Scamsung's effort will fall by the way-side whether Apple releases a watch or not. Should Apple not enter the market, there are far more brilliant minds capable of capitalising on the art than Shamsung will ever rally. (My prophesy at least. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />)
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Cue Spock vs. Kirk music.
(or if you prefer, Carrey vs. Broderick music)
What else are they supposed to do? Sell exactly the same watch in terms of capabilities as its competitors?
That's what Google wants. They're saying, here, do exactly what everyone else is doing. May the cheapest version win.
Every company wants to be Apple and charge a premium for being unique valuable and different.
You must have skipped right over his next sentence where he actually mentions seeing post 7.
I used to believe this but not anymore. Samsung has plenty of street cred. If they can keep Tizen functioning somewhat like Android then many people won't ever know the difference.
How is it any different from them selling smartphones in terms of capability as its competitors, and kicking their butts doing so?
Gotta go with Kirk, leg flip and all.
[@]Gatorguy [/@] knows the repercussions of lying to Chuck Norris.
Sammy isn't gonna drop android. They've already did the math, and they'd lose. However, they can't stay with android due to the Chinese companies chewing away at their bottom end products and Apple owning the top end. So, Sammy is in a lose-lose situation.
Google, on the other hand, is in no better a situation. The people with the money to spend are more and more not buying android or using android to shop around. In other words Google's analytics are not as finely granular as they once were. Once the advertising clients see that and start demanding Google cut their advertising prices, life at Google will get worse (no more jet pack projects). Meanwhile the clock is running on Google's search patent (2 years and counting down), and iOS8 will put the bulk of iOS searchers behind a wall where their activity and interest will be mostly invisible to Google.
I see no good end game for these two crooked companies, and I find it fun to watch their tents burn.
Meanwhile the Microsoft sideshow provides its own spectacle of a clown fire department. Waaay too late and no clear plan on how to catch up, other then compete for the low end of the phone business in emerging markets.
That's a far cry from business in the air conditioned halls of enterprise clients. How far the mighty have fallen!
It isn't personal. It is business and is all about money. The money for Android is in the advertising, the app store, and the collection of tracking information to best target the advertising. Samsung is likely seeing that the margins in making a handset are diminishing and the Chinese are having Samsung for lunch in China. What can you do about it? Create your own ecosystem that can run Android apps natively. Ditch Google Maps, Gmail, etc. and offer your own services and as a bridge open it up to third party bidders with the highest bidder getting first crack at it while you develop your in-house solutions.
I'll take your word for it then, after using every OS on a desk top they ever made I assumed it was as bad. I wondered if the out of favor thing was true, or not. MS not being popular is certainly pretty staggering to those of us who have been around before its shadow darkened the landscape.
LOL. I actually watched that show many moons ago!
You just have to go back and read his posts during the Apple v Scamsung trials to see his leanings. Then I guess anyone that runs his master's OS is OK till they bite his master's hand.
I agree, most of the knuckleheads buying Galaxies have no idea what OS they run.
I used to believe this but not anymore. Samsung has plenty of street cred. If they can keep Tizen functioning somewhat like Android then many people won't ever know the difference.
Tizen has an emulation layer ala blackberry for Android Apps
It doesn't look too bad from recent showings.
HTML5 support is a plus
It's got the official backing and actual development hand of the Linux Foundation.
EFL display layer for UI work is back-ended by C as opposed to the JVM(ewww)
OS is OSS, SDK is closed source(somewhat annoying but not important).
Sounds good to me.
Shame on you!
It is quite staggering how MS has been unable to parlay their popularity in desktop OS into mobile even after Apple showed them how to do it. Win 8 isn't bad, but it's not good either.
Assuming Scammy shafts Google, and I hope they do, who is left of any importance selling Android crap? I don't follow Android / Google news at all, other than reading Gatorguy here on AI, so I really don't know. Doesn't Google make some hardware themselves? Microsoft's downfall may have begun when they went into hardware so I hope so.
Hilarious, open source is a snake that has turned to bite the hand that reared it('s ugly head lol)!
This is all moot regardless, Scamsung's effort will fall by the way-side whether Apple releases a watch or not. Should Apple not enter the market, there are far more brilliant minds capable of capitalising on the art than Shamsung will ever rally. (My prophesy at least.
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All the best.