So far, is it good enough to use on your main Mac or not? I am not gonna whine of course; just wanna know how much of a "beta" it really is as far as daily usage is concerned.
Apple isn't finished adding or changing things so my answer is no, I wouldn't put it on a production machine. It's good enough (no offense but I've always hated this slogan because it shows how people are willing to accept something that isn't very good) for testing.
This is a question that is always asked by people who shouldn't be installing it.
I am using it as my daily driver on an important work machine....WHY? Because I know what I'm doing, and when things go wrong, I can recover quickly. I can be back in business from a time machine backup, for either yosemite or mavericks, at any time i wish.
I've seen random kernel panics occur all the way up through and including DP4. There are major unresolved issues. If you don't know how to cope with the possibility that your machine might turn it off and lose or corrupt data at any moment....you don't belong anywhere near a "beta".
Please spare us from such condescending attitudes; I probably use Apple computers for a longer time than you do - but thanks for your answer in the third paragraph; I am not stupid and am aware of the risks, so will install it in a separate HD for now.
Apple isn't finished adding or changing things so my answer is no, I wouldn't put it on a production machine. It's good enough (no offense but I've always hated this slogan because it shows how people are willing to accept something that isn't very good) for testing.
great beta !!! is working flawlessly on my Mac Pro 2009 , if this is the unfinished product , the final version will rock , super fast , reminds me more and more of OS 7 , and off course the upcoming 8 , kudos !!!!
This is a question that is always asked by people who shouldn't be installing it.
I am using it as my daily driver on an important work machine....WHY? Because I know what I'm doing, and when things go wrong, I can recover quickly. I can be back in business from a time machine backup, for either yosemite or mavericks, at any time i wish.
I've seen random kernel panics occur all the way up through and including DP4. There are major unresolved issues. If you don't know how to cope with the possibility that your machine might turn it off and lose or corrupt data at any moment....you don't belong anywhere near a "beta".
Same here.
I am using Apple OS X 10.10 Yosemite on my primary machine (have several others) but have a Time Machine backup.
I am seeing many kernel panics in Apple OS X 10.10 Yosemite DP 4 and would advise most people to not install the public beta at this time.
And here come 10,000 morons who install this and then whine about things being broken.
I got a beta invite and everything sucks and is broken. I'm going on the internet to complain. Hey everyone! I'm here to find people that agree with me. Yosemite beta sucks and is broken.
Seems like Apple's servers are getting hammered. Plus some on MacRumors are having issues saying their code has already been redeemed. And people wonder why Apple doesn't do a public beta for iOS?
Probably because there's no way to bail out of beta iOS.
On a Mac, one can easily install Yosemite Beta on a different partition or separate drive (retaining Mavericks). That option is not available for iDevices.
"Apple also recommends installing the OS X Yosemite Beta on a secondary Mac, since the software is still in pre-release testing and may contain issues."
I've created a 400 gb partition on my MBP. Not near the machine, but do I need to do a fresh install of 10.9.x before installing 10.10? Is it an upgrade or a full installer?
Actually I agree with Tallest Skil on this one. Apple is taking a huge chance opening up the Yosemite beta testing to anyone who signs up for free. If they've never dealt with beta software, and I'm not talking about some applications that are always in beta, they aren't aware of how much damage you can do to your Mac. Even though Apple states not to put this on a production system (I run all my betas on an external drive), people will ignore what they (don't) read and do it anyway. Once they find they can't go back to Mavericks, they'll start complaining. This happens with released software but it will be much worse with beta software. Apple can't test every way people use their Macs, which is why developers test them.
If you're an ADC member, current or former, you would know this. Good luck testing Yosemite. I like it and I like the new features being added.
Probably because there's no way to bail out of beta iOS.
On a Mac, one can easily install Yosemite Beta on a different partition or separate drive (retaining Mavericks). That option is not available for iDevices.
Yeah, I created another partition. I expect problems -- possibly many -- but the only complaining I will do about them is here, to piss off TS.
great beta !!! is working flawlessly on my Power Mac , if this is the unfinished product , the final version will rock , super fast , reminds me more and more of OS 7 , and off course the upcoming 8 , kudos !!!!:D
Probably because there's no way to bail out of beta iOS.
On a Mac, one can easily install Yosemite Beta on a different partition or separate drive (retaining Mavericks). That option is not available for iDevices.
It will be interesting to see how Apple's cloud services hold up this fall. Hopefully they're well prepared.
I actually sent Apple a bug report related to server issues with each iOS beta I've installed. The last time I spent more than an hour trying to get a downloaded beta to validate so it could install itself. Honestly they need to do better here.
In fact it was a few days later when I filled the report because most of developer.Apple.com wasn't even available.
I understand the strain of the mad rush but they really need to do better.
Seems like Apple's servers are getting hammered. Plus some on MacRumors are having issues saying their code has already been redeemed. And people wonder why Apple doesn't do a public beta for iOS?
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So far, is it good enough to use on your main Mac or not? I am not gonna whine of course; just wanna know how much of a "beta" it really is as far as daily usage is concerned.
Apple isn't finished adding or changing things so my answer is no, I wouldn't put it on a production machine. It's good enough (no offense but I've always hated this slogan because it shows how people are willing to accept something that isn't very good) for testing.
This is a question that is always asked by people who shouldn't be installing it.
I am using it as my daily driver on an important work machine....WHY? Because I know what I'm doing, and when things go wrong, I can recover quickly. I can be back in business from a time machine backup, for either yosemite or mavericks, at any time i wish.
I've seen random kernel panics occur all the way up through and including DP4. There are major unresolved issues. If you don't know how to cope with the possibility that your machine might turn it off and lose or corrupt data at any moment....you don't belong anywhere near a "beta".
Please spare us from such condescending attitudes; I probably use Apple computers for a longer time than you do - but thanks for your answer in the third paragraph; I am not stupid and am aware of the risks, so will install it in a separate HD for now.
One down, 99,999 to go, apparently.
Apple isn't finished adding or changing things so my answer is no, I wouldn't put it on a production machine. It's good enough (no offense but I've always hated this slogan because it shows how people are willing to accept something that isn't very good) for testing.
Great, thanks.
great beta !!! is working flawlessly on my Mac Pro 2009 , if this is the unfinished product , the final version will rock , super fast , reminds me more and more of OS 7 , and off course the upcoming 8 , kudos !!!!
TS is right. Every year people get ahold of bootleg copies of developer previews and whine incessantly about it being unstable.
It is perfectly reasonable to assume it will be at least as bad but probably worse than usual with Apple actively encouraging people to try it out.
Same here.
I am using Apple OS X 10.10 Yosemite on my primary machine (have several others) but have a Time Machine backup.
I am seeing many kernel panics in Apple OS X 10.10 Yosemite DP 4 and would advise most people to not install the public beta at this time.
And here come 10,000 morons who install this and then whine about things being broken.
I got a beta invite and everything sucks and is broken. I'm going on the internet to complain. Hey everyone! I'm here to find people that agree with me. Yosemite beta sucks and is broken.
Same here.
I am using Apple OS X 10.10 Yosemite on my primary machine (have several others) but have a Time Machine backup.
I am seeing many kernel panics in Apple OS X 10.10 Yosemite DP 4 and would advise most people to not install the public beta at this time.
Does Console give any clues as to why?
Seems like Apple's servers are getting hammered. Plus some on MacRumors are having issues saying their code has already been redeemed. And people wonder why Apple doesn't do a public beta for iOS?
Probably because there's no way to bail out of beta iOS.
On a Mac, one can easily install Yosemite Beta on a different partition or separate drive (retaining Mavericks). That option is not available for iDevices.
"Apple also recommends installing the OS X Yosemite Beta on a secondary Mac, since the software is still in pre-release testing and may contain issues."
Looks like user beware....your call...
Between September 21 and December 21. Early hibernation, I guess.
Frankly it is all I can do to handle one Apple beta at a time! I'm finding iOS 8 to be very buggy on iPad.
Probably because there's no way to bail out of beta iOS.
On a Mac, one can easily install Yosemite Beta on a different partition or separate drive (retaining Mavericks). That option is not available for iDevices.
Yeah, I created another partition. I expect problems -- possibly many -- but the only complaining I will do about them is here, to piss off TS.
j/k
Wait, Apple is releasing a PPC version?
Wait, Apple is releasing a PPC version?
Ahh, if only my old 17" TiPB weren't dead (from me spilling a Coke on while asleep one night).
In fact it was a few days later when I filled the report because most of developer.Apple.com wasn't even available.
I understand the strain of the mad rush but they really need to do better.