I don't think they should do that though, I think their current strategy is right. Pushing SSDs will help drive their prices down. Fusion drives would slow down adoption and they aren't as fast or reliable. I would also rather they scrapped the old model entirely.
I never understand that thinking. Because you don't want the model with the opical drive and hard drive, they should quit making it? Some prople prefer that model, as several posters here have noted - if Apple's willing to make it, that's great.
So all the people who prefer that model can go take a hike?
All ten of them.
What difference does it make to you (or anyone) if Apple builds a model you're not interested in?
I’ve never understood how this is an argument. So Apple should build a 21” laptop, 3” thick, with SLI GPUs and three internal hard drives? Because one person wants it? NO.
Incidentally, that exists. I’ll try to find it again...
Only if they’re paying no attention whatsoever. You’re whining about an update ON THE DAY OF AN UPDATE.
No, I’m upset with you.
Perhaps you should look up the definition of whining. I didn't complain about the update at all and I didn't imply there was anything wrong with the current update.
I'm not saying Apple SHOULD do anything, unlike you.
What difference does it make to you if Apple builds a model you're not interested in?
I've never understood that mindset either. If something doesn't interest me, I just don't buy it. I don't opine that no one else should be able to buy it. If Apple decides to make a laptop with a click-wheel instead of a keyboard, how does that affect me? Why on Earth would I care one way or the other?
No BTO to 32GB is for my way of thinking an immediate no sale. I will never buy a Mac that limits the RAM to half the standard support.
First of all, 16GB of memory is a ton of memory for a laptop. More than enough for the overwhelming majority of uses. If you really need that much RAM for your work, buy the right computer - an expandable iMac or Pro - if the laptop doesn't meet your needs. As per the old saying, use the right tool for the job.
It's not about the chipset! This is a laptop! It's about overall performance in balance with battery life, as well as issues with heat dissipation. I'm sure that to accommodate 32GB of RAM we need to wait for the next redesign as the computer will need additional change to accommodate the size, power and heat of the larger configuration. This is only a refresh and most likely at the engineering limits. BTW, laptops ARE NOT desktop computers. If you really need that much RAM for your work the choices are clear.
The thing does take TWO adapters, ya know, for that extra power:
Dear heavens.
But no, I was thinking of a dedicated gaming laptop. This one, in fact. Click for nice and big.
Take it ALL~ in, baby. And you can get the case customized in any way physically possible. Meaning color and logo on the lid, basically. They can use a paint that costs $1,200 PER PINT if you want (as seen above; it changes color). Two 880M GPUs, four RAM slots, FOUR hard drives…
And best of all, since it’s already as thick as a VCR, they put some nice 7-bar numbers on the front bezel so you can relive those classic [div class=“blink”]12:00[/div] memories. Yes, I know the blink tag doesn’t work anymore. Screw you, modern HTML standards.
And honestly? The price? I would actually almost call it reasonable, and that surprises me. And if that isn’t enough, they also do desktops.
I never understand that thinking. Because you don't want the model with the opical drive and hard drive, they should quit making it? Some prople prefer that model, as several posters here have noted - if Apple's willing to make it, that's great.
For legacy technology to be phased out, it needs to be removed as an option. If Apple kept putting firewire ports on things, people would keep using firewire peripherals.
DVD drives are history, Blu Ray hasn't taken off by Sony's own admission:
"Sony has confirmed it would take a $145 million write-down on its Blu-ray disc business. Sony was a pioneer for Blu-ray technology but now says it has further revised downward its anticipated profitability reflecting the slump in sales of packaged media. Sony says it does not expect to recover the value of its current stockpile of product. Instead, consumers are buying into streamed entertainment services from established pay-TV broadcasters as well as new entrants Netflix, iTunes and other OTT suppliers of content."
This is what people have been saying for years. It was obvious with advancing internet speeds and ubiquity that digital distribution was going to be the way forward. Optical media has some place for movie ownership but it's not an essential component for a computer just like a printer isn't essential or a modem any more (laptops used to have modems in them). Optical is now relegated to external status.
The writing's on the wall for hard drives too and offering it leads people to ignore the speed benefits of the SSD. They are 10x faster than hard drives and can be put into standby much more easily. Laptops behave like iPads when they have an SSD in them and you can move them around easily with the assurance that a bump here and there won't suddenly crash the entire drive. The cost is high just now but that isn't helped by people continuing to buy hard drives.
DVD drives are history, Blu Ray hasn't taken off by Sony's own admission:
Well, honestly, it had a six year run. That’s okay, I guess. Pathetic in the face of VHS and DVD, but when the books are written, “It existed for a while” will be jotted down in the margins.
people continuing to buy hard drives.
Why isn’t there a drive larger than 4 terabytes yet? How is this acceptable? And no, the 5 and 6 terabyte drives full of helium (WASTING PRECIOUS HELIUM) don’t count; we can’t buy them.
There’s a 4TB SSD available now. You may guess the price, of course, but it shows that spinning drives won’t have excuse to exist for much longer. Still, I want something larger than that if I’m going to be told to update.
If Apple kept putting firewire ports on things, people would keep using firewire peripherals.
So? Why is that a problem? It wouldn't adversely affect your ability to use Thunderbolt if you choose. Why would you care if some people choose to continue using Firewire?
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<span style="line-height:1.4em;">hard drives…</span>
And best of all, since it’s already as thick as a VCR, they put some nice 7-bar numbers on the front bezel so you can relive those classic [div class=“blink”]12:00[/div] memories. Yes, I know the blink tag doesn’t work anymore. Screw you, modern HTML standards.
And honestly? The price? I would actually almost call it reasonable, and that surprises me. <span style="line-height:1.4em;">And if that isn</span>
’t enough, they also do desktops.
There is only one gaming laptop that I would even consider and that's the new Razor Blade.
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I don't think they should do that though, I think their current strategy is right. Pushing SSDs will help drive their prices down. Fusion drives would slow down adoption and they aren't as fast or reliable. I would also rather they scrapped the old model entirely.
I never understand that thinking. Because you don't want the model with the opical drive and hard drive, they should quit making it? Some prople prefer that model, as several posters here have noted - if Apple's willing to make it, that's great.
All ten of them.
I’ve never understood how this is an argument. So Apple should build a 21” laptop, 3” thick, with SLI GPUs and three internal hard drives? Because one person wants it? NO.
Incidentally, that exists. I’ll try to find it again...
I'm not saying Apple SHOULD do anything, unlike you.
What difference does it make to you if Apple builds a model you're not interested in?
Only if they’re paying no attention whatsoever. You’re whining about an update ON THE DAY OF AN UPDATE.
No, I’m upset with you.
Perhaps you should look up the definition of whining. I didn't complain about the update at all and I didn't imply there was anything wrong with the current update.
For the answer to this question that was already posted, see the post to which it was replying.
I'm not saying Apple SHOULD do anything, unlike you.
What difference does it make to you if Apple builds a model you're not interested in?
I've never understood that mindset either. If something doesn't interest me, I just don't buy it. I don't opine that no one else should be able to buy it. If Apple decides to make a laptop with a click-wheel instead of a keyboard, how does that affect me? Why on Earth would I care one way or the other?
First of all, 16GB of memory is a ton of memory for a laptop. More than enough for the overwhelming majority of uses. If you really need that much RAM for your work, buy the right computer - an expandable iMac or Pro - if the laptop doesn't meet your needs. As per the old saying, use the right tool for the job.
It's not about the chipset! This is a laptop! It's about overall performance in balance with battery life, as well as issues with heat dissipation. I'm sure that to accommodate 32GB of RAM we need to wait for the next redesign as the computer will need additional change to accommodate the size, power and heat of the larger configuration. This is only a refresh and most likely at the engineering limits. BTW, laptops ARE NOT desktop computers. If you really need that much RAM for your work the choices are clear.
Yosemite’s requirement is 2 gigs.
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http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/161237/apples-new-cylindrical-mac-pro-desktop-arrives-thursday-starting-at-2-999/240#post_2448942
The thing does take TWO adapters, ya know, for that extra power:
Dear heavens.
But no, I was thinking of a dedicated gaming laptop. This one, in fact. Click for nice and big.
Take it ALL~ in, baby. And you can get the case customized in any way physically possible. Meaning color and logo on the lid, basically. They can use a paint that costs $1,200 PER PINT if you want (as seen above; it changes color). Two 880M GPUs, four RAM slots, FOUR hard drives…
And best of all, since it’s already as thick as a VCR, they put some nice 7-bar numbers on the front bezel so you can relive those classic [div class=“blink”]12:00[/div] memories. Yes, I know the blink tag doesn’t work anymore. Screw you, modern HTML standards.
And honestly? The price? I would actually almost call it reasonable, and that surprises me. And if that isn’t enough, they also do desktops.
Holy cow!
Yes! 17" matte
Yes! 32GB
Yes! 4x1TB. I could do RAID!
Yes! 6x BlueRay & DVD Writer
Yes! 8-cell battery
Yes! 3 internal speakers
Yes! Fingerprint reader for optional biomettic security
"MS Windows 8.1" ...hmpf
Well, at least they made it easy for us to carry the 9.4lbs thing:
For legacy technology to be phased out, it needs to be removed as an option. If Apple kept putting firewire ports on things, people would keep using firewire peripherals.
DVD drives are history, Blu Ray hasn't taken off by Sony's own admission:
http://advanced-television.com/2014/05/02/sony-blu-ray-write-down/
"Sony has confirmed it would take a $145 million write-down on its Blu-ray disc business. Sony was a pioneer for Blu-ray technology but now says it has further revised downward its anticipated profitability reflecting the slump in sales of packaged media. Sony says it does not expect to recover the value of its current stockpile of product. Instead, consumers are buying into streamed entertainment services from established pay-TV broadcasters as well as new entrants Netflix, iTunes and other OTT suppliers of content."
This is what people have been saying for years. It was obvious with advancing internet speeds and ubiquity that digital distribution was going to be the way forward. Optical media has some place for movie ownership but it's not an essential component for a computer just like a printer isn't essential or a modem any more (laptops used to have modems in them). Optical is now relegated to external status.
The writing's on the wall for hard drives too and offering it leads people to ignore the speed benefits of the SSD. They are 10x faster than hard drives and can be put into standby much more easily. Laptops behave like iPads when they have an SSD in them and you can move them around easily with the assurance that a bump here and there won't suddenly crash the entire drive. The cost is high just now but that isn't helped by people continuing to buy hard drives.
Well, honestly, it had a six year run. That’s okay, I guess. Pathetic in the face of VHS and DVD, but when the books are written, “It existed for a while” will be jotted down in the margins.
Why isn’t there a drive larger than 4 terabytes yet? How is this acceptable? And no, the 5 and 6 terabyte drives full of helium (WASTING PRECIOUS HELIUM) don’t count; we can’t buy them.
There’s a 4TB SSD available now. You may guess the price, of course, but it shows that spinning drives won’t have excuse to exist for much longer. Still, I want something larger than that if I’m going to be told to update.
Indeed, that tech, from 1954!, needs to be replaced. People, please, stop buying laptops with a HDD.
When the Retina MBP was released the exchange rate was £1 = $1.55, now it’s £1 = $1.69, so any change should be in the direction I was hoping for.
When the Retina MBP was released the exchange rate was £1 = $1.55, now it’s £1 = $1.69, so any change should be in the direction I was hoping for.
You're right, sorry, I had a mind-bork and did the exchange calculation the wrong way.
If Apple kept putting firewire ports on things, people would keep using firewire peripherals.
So? Why is that a problem? It wouldn't adversely affect your ability to use Thunderbolt if you choose. Why would you care if some people choose to continue using Firewire?
There is only one gaming laptop that I would even consider and that's the new Razor Blade.
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