Have you read Google and Apples financial statements?
Apple makes the bulk of its revenue and profits on devices and software sales.
Google makes 99.999999999999999% of its profits by extracting data about you to send you ads. Who knows where all that info is stored or who its shared with. Again their TOS says they can share PERSONAL INFORMATION if they think it can be used to PREVENT FRAUD. You don't even have to be suspected of FRAUD.
Google's life blood is our PERSONAL INFORMATION. Without it they will go bankrupt.
that is why they are able to sell Chromebooks for dirt cheap.
They lose money on every Chromebook they sell but make 100% back with the ads they send to you or the information they get from you.
Give it a rest already, we get it, Google want's your soul, but holy moly, when you get started on something your like that bunny in those battery commercials. Still luv yea though.
Indeed. Schools institutionalise humanity. We will be much better as people when they are gone. The family and church should replace it as the centre of life.
Seems to me you'd be itchin' to be my first victim. Keep your version of the Taliban away from those I love and cherish.
Note: another reason why I don't have children of my own: between idiot educators and societal religious preachers, I was saving myself jail time for going ballistic on the first one that screwed up my child's mind.
Or quite possibly there is a prejudice within the IT dept. against all Apple products and they are just looking for excuses to not work with them. I have noticed this to be a sadly common mindset of many IT individuals within my workplace and personal life who are much too ignorant as a result of some kind of nonsensical hate against Apple that they cannot see the products' strengths.
Actually, I think it may be prejudice on part of IT managers. With Chromebooks requiring little management, the cost of implementation and management is probably cheaper than windows laptops.
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If they think iPads have shortcomings, wait till they try Chromebooks. Chromebooks only give you the web, and no programs at all. If keyboards are the issue, that would have been a cheaper solution.
That's a feature not a shortcoming when you have to control access for large groups of children.
I have to agree with this. It's really a problem. When there is no internet connection, it's so difficult to transfer files from ipad to my mbp. I have to look for the cable if i remember to bring it or try to ask around to borrow one. Why can i just use bluetooth? my mbp has bluetooth and my ipad has bluetooth. Am i missing something? Or do i need to download an app to do that? (this is a real question, please let me know if there is an app allows bluetooth file transfers between ipad and mbp. Or any other way to transfer files w/o a cable and no internet/network connection?)
Have you tried setting up an adhoc network with your MBP. And then the app I mentioned in my post above (File Browser in the App Store). Duck-Duck-Go the part about the adhoc network.
You're defiantly the big cock I was looking for today, thank you. :p
Not the right time to be going all forthright with me! Just got back from dinner, a beer or 2 plus some well aged Serbian schnapps to wash it all down. You might justifiably say I'm feelin' a bit cocky right now... although I can't believe I misspelled "rules"? The only thing I'm truly sorry about at the moment...
I am sure you will notice that Chromebook proponents conveniently "forget" the supposed importance of Adobe Creative Cloud, AutoDesk AutoCAD, Microsoft Office and so forth whilst never forgetting the necessity for the same apps on Apple iOS.
If iOS isn't a viable productivity solution then ChromeOS is lightyears from being productivity solution.
You used AutoCAD in grade school?
I wonder if some of you pay taxes. I'd be pissed if my local schoolboard was wasting money. What do grade school kids need besides access to Wikipedia and a word processor on a cheap laptop, and perhaps some basic ed apps on a shared iPad mini? I'd have serious doubts about financial mismanagement if grade schoolers were being given $1000 Macbook Airs with capabilities they didn't need. And I'd question my board's judgement if they decided that two kids should share an iPad instead of giving each child a chromebook which meets their basic needs.
India and China churn out STEM grads by the millions. You can be sure they don't have cheap computers for each student in grade school, let alone an iPad. But they are focused on actually having kids who are literate (numerically, linguistically, etc.), not just trained on how to quickly open Safari and do a web search. I would hope that schools are focused on actually educating children and making them functional, not on teaching them how to play with tech at the expense of an actual education focused on literacy and critical thinking.
Indeed. Schools institutionalise humanity. We will be much better as people when they are gone. The family and church should replace it as the center of life.
I wish it was that simple Benji but I truly believe too successfully integrate all paths to enlightenment in a community it is imperative that we separate church from state. The chaos that would ensue after a single religious belief is forcibly taught to our children would be catastrophic beyond measures, at this point in time. I think it's wonderful that your secure and strong enough in your beliefs to share with others about your ideals and faith, so please don't take anything I said to offense. Their are private schools that cater to those who wish their children to receive not only a general but spiritual education as well. Public schools though need to be neutral in these matters.
Great friend you turned out to be, channeingl Applebaum when I got the compliment of a lifetime! (Which I probably won't hear for good long time if ever again )
"Exsqueeze me?"
Step aside... she wasn't talkin' to you!:rolleyes:
If you bought a cheap laptop 3 years ago for a school is probably broken, so obsolete and useless.
A 3 year old iPad is still great right now (iPad3)
You get what you pay for
You think an iPad will last long with a grade schooler tossing it around? So now the school will need Applecare+ for each iPad. Add that to the cost. Now compare to the program that Google offers with "Chromebooks for Education". At $249, schools will simply budget to replace Chromebooks every 2-3 years. This is still cheaper than providing an iPad 3 with a keyboard and Applecare+ every 3 years.
I get that Apple fans would love to see Apple products in schools. But as long as schools are taxpayer funded entitities, there's no business case to waste scarce taxpayer dollars on over-capable tech. Really, a Windows 3.1 laptop using notepad and the original Netscape browser would acutally be enough capability for what most kids need to learn at that age. So $500 iPads (after you include keyboard case and warranty) is overkill. Just like Apple fans have no issues with Apple passing up sales on lower end of the smartphone market, it's time to accept that the education sector maybe lower yielding and pass on it. Stick to selling macbooks to college students willing to blow student loans on Apple products.
Great friend you turned out to be, channeingl Applebaum when I got the compliment of a lifetime! (Which I probably won't hear for good long time if ever again )
"Exsqueeze me?"
Step aside... she wasn't talkin' to you!:rolleyes:
Great friend you turned out to be, channeingl Applebaum when I got the compliment of a lifetime! (Which I probably won't hear for good long time if ever again )
Indeed. Schools institutionalise humanity. We will be much better as people when they are gone. The family and church should replace it as the centre of life.
Seems to me you'd be itchin' to be my first victim. Keep your version of the Taliban away from those I love and cherish.
Note: another reason why I don't have children of my own: between idiot educators and societal religious preachers, I was saving myself jail time for going ballistic on the first one that screwed up my child's mind.
Life can be so cruel! I'm struttin' my cocky ol' rooster jig, and getting totally dissed in style by a longboarding pig! Surfin' used to be my religion of choice until I discovered _______ ?
Humour and laughter: life's only free drug as long as it's at yourself.
[VIDEO]
They do only ONE THING. Once schools realize this they will dump it.
I doubt it. Schools (especially grade schools) don't need extremely versatile tech. They need a browser, a word processor, and a pdf reader. Really, that's about all they actually need.
Chromebooks have that.
iPads have that too. They just cost more.
This is a question of needs vs. wants. The Chromebooks meet your needs. The iPad meets your wants. Taxpayers generally don't like paying school boards for wants.
In middle and high school, you could argue that the iPad makes a perfect compliment as an ereader and browser, accompanied by a laptop to do work.
Life can be so cruel! I'm struttin' my cocky ol' rooster jig, and getting totally dissed in style by a longboarding pig! Surfin' used to be my religion of choice until I discovered _______ ?
Humour and laughter: life's only free drug as long as it's at yourself.
Google makes money by selling your personal information.
Do you agree with that?
Yes or No.
I would say definitely not.
Please tell me how I can purchase some of Google's cache of personal information. If I can purchase some then I would agree with you, otherwise I will stick with my current belief that Google does not sell the personal info they collect. I work with Google adwords, adsense and analytics on my websites and I have not found any offers to buy, sell, rent, or view personal information for free or fee. I'm just curious what proof you have for your allegations.
There are hundreds if not thousands of unethical data brokers who do sell your personal information. I just don't think Google is one of them.
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Give it a rest already, we get it, Google want's your soul, but holy moly, when you get started on something your like that bunny in those battery commercials. Still luv yea though.
use a $40 blutooth keyboard.
That's way cheaper than trying to run touch enabled software on a laptop or chromebook
You just made that iPad $40 more expensive for the same function. And that's with the iPad already starting at a cost disadvantage.
Haven't seen that before, only this €90 thingy:
http://store-eur.leapmotion.com
edit: I believe @Dick Applebaum bought one.
I've seen that at the Apple Store, or was it Digitec, looks neat, does it work?
Seems to me you'd be itchin' to be my first victim. Keep your version of the Taliban away from those I love and cherish.
Well I do declare, I got me my best Foghorn Leggorn:
We all know who rools the roost in these parts, but I plead you make it not so obvious darlin'!
Like me Grandpa used to say, "Peck me once, shame on me; peck me twice... oblige and allow me ito call you a pecker!"
Glad to hear I could be of some help, and stay strong babe and keep on peckin'!
*** If ya can't tell, I come from the Old School of Chivalry and Chauvinism. No My Sogony going on in these parts, just plain old RESPECT!
Sent from my (cough.. Uh um) iPad.
You're defiantly the big cock I was looking for today, thank you.
Or quite possibly there is a prejudice within the IT dept. against all Apple products and they are just looking for excuses to not work with them. I have noticed this to be a sadly common mindset of many IT individuals within my workplace and personal life who are much too ignorant as a result of some kind of nonsensical hate against Apple that they cannot see the products' strengths.
Actually, I think it may be prejudice on part of IT managers. With Chromebooks requiring little management, the cost of implementation and management is probably cheaper than windows laptops.
If they think iPads have shortcomings, wait till they try Chromebooks. Chromebooks only give you the web, and no programs at all. If keyboards are the issue, that would have been a cheaper solution.
That's a feature not a shortcoming when you have to control access for large groups of children.
Don't know. Dick, you bought one, no?
"Exsqueeze me?"
Have you tried setting up an adhoc network with your MBP. And then the app I mentioned in my post above (File Browser in the App Store). Duck-Duck-Go the part about the adhoc network.
Not the right time to be going all forthright with me! Just got back from dinner, a beer or 2 plus some well aged Serbian schnapps to wash it all down. You might justifiably say I'm feelin' a bit cocky right now... although I can't believe I misspelled "rules"? The only thing I'm truly sorry about at the moment...
I am sure you will notice that Chromebook proponents conveniently "forget" the supposed importance of Adobe Creative Cloud, AutoDesk AutoCAD, Microsoft Office and so forth whilst never forgetting the necessity for the same apps on Apple iOS.
If iOS isn't a viable productivity solution then ChromeOS is lightyears from being productivity solution.
You used AutoCAD in grade school?
I wonder if some of you pay taxes. I'd be pissed if my local schoolboard was wasting money. What do grade school kids need besides access to Wikipedia and a word processor on a cheap laptop, and perhaps some basic ed apps on a shared iPad mini? I'd have serious doubts about financial mismanagement if grade schoolers were being given $1000 Macbook Airs with capabilities they didn't need. And I'd question my board's judgement if they decided that two kids should share an iPad instead of giving each child a chromebook which meets their basic needs.
India and China churn out STEM grads by the millions. You can be sure they don't have cheap computers for each student in grade school, let alone an iPad. But they are focused on actually having kids who are literate (numerically, linguistically, etc.), not just trained on how to quickly open Safari and do a web search. I would hope that schools are focused on actually educating children and making them functional, not on teaching them how to play with tech at the expense of an actual education focused on literacy and critical thinking.
Indeed. Schools institutionalise humanity. We will be much better as people when they are gone. The family and church should replace it as the center of life.
I wish it was that simple Benji but I truly believe too successfully integrate all paths to enlightenment in a community it is imperative that we separate church from state. The chaos that would ensue after a single religious belief is forcibly taught to our children would be catastrophic beyond measures, at this point in time. I think it's wonderful that your secure and strong enough in your beliefs to share with others about your ideals and faith, so please don't take anything I said to offense. Their are private schools that cater to those who wish their children to receive not only a general but spiritual education as well. Public schools though need to be neutral in these matters.
Great friend you turned out to be, channeingl Applebaum when I got the compliment of a lifetime! (Which I probably won't hear for good long time if ever again
Step aside... she wasn't talkin' to you!:rolleyes:
But how long will those cheap laptops last?
With kids I say 1 or 2 years tops.
iPad may cost more but you get what you pay for.
Short term thinking.
If you bought a cheap laptop 3 years ago for a school is probably broken, so obsolete and useless.
A 3 year old iPad is still great right now (iPad3)
You get what you pay for
You think an iPad will last long with a grade schooler tossing it around? So now the school will need Applecare+ for each iPad. Add that to the cost. Now compare to the program that Google offers with "Chromebooks for Education". At $249, schools will simply budget to replace Chromebooks every 2-3 years. This is still cheaper than providing an iPad 3 with a keyboard and Applecare+ every 3 years.
I get that Apple fans would love to see Apple products in schools. But as long as schools are taxpayer funded entitities, there's no business case to waste scarce taxpayer dollars on over-capable tech. Really, a Windows 3.1 laptop using notepad and the original Netscape browser would acutally be enough capability for what most kids need to learn at that age. So $500 iPads (after you include keyboard case and warranty) is overkill. Just like Apple fans have no issues with Apple passing up sales on lower end of the smartphone market, it's time to accept that the education sector maybe lower yielding and pass on it. Stick to selling macbooks to college students willing to blow student loans on Apple products.
Now THAT, people, is what I call humour.
Great friend you turned out to be, channeingl Applebaum when I got the compliment of a lifetime! (Which I probably won't hear for good long time if ever again
Step aside... she wasn't talkin' to you!
Okay…I'm sure you're good underneath really. ????
Life can be so cruel! I'm struttin' my cocky ol' rooster jig, and getting totally dissed in style by a longboarding pig! Surfin' used to be my religion of choice until I discovered _______ ?
Humour and laughter: life's only free drug as long as it's at yourself.
[VIDEO]
Thats exactly the problem.
They do only ONE THING. Once schools realize this they will dump it.
I doubt it. Schools (especially grade schools) don't need extremely versatile tech. They need a browser, a word processor, and a pdf reader. Really, that's about all they actually need.
Chromebooks have that.
iPads have that too. They just cost more.
This is a question of needs vs. wants. The Chromebooks meet your needs. The iPad meets your wants. Taxpayers generally don't like paying school boards for wants.
In middle and high school, you could argue that the iPad makes a perfect compliment as an ereader and browser, accompanied by a laptop to do work.
Life can be so cruel! I'm struttin' my cocky ol' rooster jig, and getting totally dissed in style by a longboarding pig! Surfin' used to be my religion of choice until I discovered _______ ?
Humour and laughter: life's only free drug as long as it's at yourself.
Ah, surf and turf.
Google makes money by selling your personal information.
Do you agree with that?
Yes or No.
I would say definitely not.
Please tell me how I can purchase some of Google's cache of personal information. If I can purchase some then I would agree with you, otherwise I will stick with my current belief that Google does not sell the personal info they collect. I work with Google adwords, adsense and analytics on my websites and I have not found any offers to buy, sell, rent, or view personal information for free or fee. I'm just curious what proof you have for your allegations.
There are hundreds if not thousands of unethical data brokers who do sell your personal information. I just don't think Google is one of them.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-data-brokers-selling-your-personal-information/