Rumor: Apple to bump 'iPad Air 2' RAM to 2GB, keep second-gen Retina iPad mini at 1GB

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  • Reply 81 of 108
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ThePixelDoc View Post





    Eigentlich, zur Zeit hab' Ich kein Kommentar ... |^_^|

    Das ist neu.

  • Reply 82 of 108
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    relic wrote: »
    Das ist neu.

    Na ja Frau General, du warst schön "in the house" :)

    << Pass auf... "Fire in the hole" gleich ! >>

    Edite: funny that this time auto-correction actually works... I'll let "schön" stand... !
  • Reply 83 of 108
    stuffestuffe Posts: 394member
    You know, I’d say me, because the design of the uniforms are incredibly classy… I just can’t get over the pants. If I can wear pants that aren’t, well… THIS
    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="47385" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/47385/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 313px; height: 398px">

    then sure.

    In both a literal and figurative sense, Keiner weiss wo dem Andern der Schuh drückt. Not that there would be pinching in those pants, per say…

    We're. Talking. About. RAM. Chips.

    Apparently.

    No, carry on, no need to justify yourself...
  • Reply 84 of 108
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Edite: funny that this time auto-correction actually works... I'll let "schön" stand... !

    I think it ought to work, after switching language. Something I do all the time. What Apple should do though, is keep the language setting on a per app basis. In Safari I mainly type in English, in SMS I usually type in Dutch and so on and so forth.
  • Reply 85 of 108
    relic wrote: »
    Das ist neu.

    Na ja Frau General, du warst schön "in the house" :)

    << Pass auf... "Fire in the hole" gleich ! >>

    Edite: funny that this time auto-correction actually works... I'll let "schön" stand... !

    Ich bin ein Englishman.
  • Reply 86 of 108
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    Err no! I'm talking about devlopers that have ran into memory issues and are waiting on an IOS device with fewer limitations. The problem is that if that extra memory does come to AIR and only Air we then have a reduced market for these more demanding applications.

    Apple's iOS developer guides have addressed development best practices and RAM considerations since the very beginning of the iOS platform, and Apple has given developers the developer tools to be aware of device resource usage. And iOS developers who formerly came from the world of Palm OS and Windows Mobile development have already been well trained in the art of memory management--at least the ones I've met. Now, undisciplined PC developers who have no experience writing mobile apps might be these allegedly "infuriated developers" that you're hypothesizing about.
  • Reply 87 of 108
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    relic wrote: »
    Yes, exactly, Safari, I've lost so many long posts in forums because I needed to answer a text in Viber or Skype, only to come back and Safari had refreshed the page.
    Understand that I'm one that is chomping at the bit for more RAM, just realize that many of Safaris problems have nothing to do with RAM. Sadly even in the iOS betas it is demonstrating to have lots of bugs. The other thing is that sometimes Safari is doing the right thing with the reloads. I'm just afraid that people will go out and buy an iPad with 2GB of RAM expecting miracles.

    AppleInsider thankfully saw this shortcoming and saves your work. Other sites aren't so considered. I now use Office to draft my posts when using my iPad. I mostly use my Nokia 2520 to surf as I prefer a desktop browser to mobile.

    It is my understanding that Appl has merged the desktop and mobile code the best they can. So we can expect similar behaviors between the two browsers. At least on iPAd. The problem is Safari on the desktop behaves very similarly to Safair on iPad (running both betas).

    Don't get me wrong, Safari is vastly improved in both cases. Vastly improved though is far from perfect.
  • Reply 88 of 108
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    I got the sense that Apple will allow a split screen multi-tasking in the iOS8, if so, that alone should call for more RAM. Especially since RAM is about $11 per Gb.
    It is probably even less for Apple. Generally you get your discounts based on volume and I can't imagine anybody buying more cell phone RAM than Apple right now.
    What I never heard discussed is whether Apple essentially doubled all the RAM when they went to 64-bit architecture. (16Gb of 32 bit words = 8 Gb of 64 bit words.)

    I'm not sure what you are asking here. The iPad shipped with the same amount of RAM. If you are asking about data path width then i don't know for sure. However I believe it is the same as on the iPhones.
  • Reply 89 of 108
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    Wilkommen to AI, Fraulein Relic! My German's a little rusty.

    At least you have German to get rusty. Wizard is just rusty from old age.

    All my knowledge of German has come from trying to read manuals, code and prints for machines sourced in Germany. It is amazing what one can accomplish with Google translate.
  • Reply 90 of 108
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    Ich bin ein Englishman.

    ...und Ich bin kein Berliner... so what does that have to do with anything since I was replying to Relic???

    700

    ...the real thing...

    700
  • Reply 91 of 108
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    ^^^^^ Berliner post above ^^^^^

    ...and now you learned why every German chuckles every time a tourist says "Ich bin ein Berliner", when quoting the late great President JFK... :)
  • Reply 92 of 108
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    apple ][ wrote: »
    My iPad 3 has 1 GB of RAM. I trust Apple's decisions up to a certain point,
    Trust nothing human. Apple is ran by humans thus can not be trusted.

    but I also trust my own experiences of course, and I do know that I would like more than 1 GB of RAM, since I have been using an iPad with 1 GB of RAM for quite some time now.

    For many things you don't need the RAM as the vast majority of apps run fine. It is only when you try to do certain things or use demanding apps that you have problems.

    However if you are like me, I assume you are as we both are running iPad 3's, you buy hardware expecting to hang on to it for awhile. So at this point in time we are at the point where more RAM will be needed if you expect to keep the your next purchase for awhile.

    This isn't much different than what you see with MAC Book Pros. I purchased one with 2GB of RAM in 2008 which was great for the time. Today there is no way I'd recommend that little RAM in a Mac Book of any type. You would want to buy enough for now and to keep you good into the future and your next update.

    I'm certain that More RAM will solve some of the issues talked about here. But the bigger iipssue in my mind is that it makes the purchase viable for a few more years than it would be otherwise.
  • Reply 93 of 108
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    apple ][ wrote: »
    I've argued numerous times in the past that Apple should raise their prices on certain products, so this wouldn't be the first time that I am making that argument.

    As opposed to Android people, I'm more of a quality over quantity kind of person.

    The problem here is that a random price increase here or there do nothing for quality. In some cases it can actually lower quality. That would happen by lowering volume and under utilizing your production infrastructure.
  • Reply 94 of 108
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    I'm glad you aren't running Apple!
    apple ][ wrote: »
    Bingo. Like many other people on this forum, I'm not just a fan of Apple products, but I'm also an investor in Apple from time to time.
    If so you must be aware of what has happened to Apple in the past when they tried to sell overpriced hardware.
    I want Apple to release killer products, so that I can personally enjoy them and use them, but I also want Apple as a company to make a killing, because that is also in my best interest.

    They are already making a killing. More so there are clear indicators that some of Apples products are grossly over priced which has artificially cooled demand for iPad Air and other products. It is difficult to find the optimum price for hardware but I think Apple is in danger of repeating the mistakes of the past. The scale has certainly tipped in the direction of consumer dissatisfaction with Apple hardware pricing.
  • Reply 95 of 108
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    apple ][ wrote: »
    Bingo. Like many other people on this forum, I'm not just a fan of Apple products, but I'm also an investor in Apple from time to time.

    I want Apple to release killer products, so that I can personally enjoy them and use them, but I also want Apple as a company to make a killing, because that is also in my best interest.

    Apple made over $7B in profit last quarter. How is that not making a killing?

    Here are two comments - one from Cook and one from Ive about what Apple's goals are.

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-06/tim-cooks-freshman-year-the-apple-ceo-speaks
    "You know, we want to really enrich people’s lives at the end of the day, not just make money. Making money might be a byproduct, but it’s not our North Star."

    http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-07/30/jonathan-ive-revenue-good-design
    "We are really pleased with our revenues but our goal isn't to make money. It sounds a little flippant, but it's the truth. Our goal and what makes us excited is to make great products. If we are successful people will like them and if we are operationally competent, we will make money."
  • Reply 96 of 108
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ThePixelDoc View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    Ich bin ein Englishman.




    ...und Ich bin kein Berliner... so what does that have to do with anything since I was replying to Relic???







    ...the real thing...




     

    You were using German, the language of Bach.

  • Reply 97 of 108
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    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post



    My iPad 3 has 1 GB of RAM. I trust Apple's decisions up to a certain point,


    Trust nothing human. Apple is ran by humans thus can not be trusted.

    Quote:



    but I also trust my own experiences of course, and I do know that I would like more than 1 GB of RAM, since I have been using an iPad with 1 GB of RAM for quite some time now.




    For many things you don't need the RAM as the vast majority of apps run fine. It is only when you try to do certain things or use demanding apps that you have problems.



    However if you are like me, I assume you are as we both are running iPad 3's, you buy hardware expecting to hang on to it for awhile. So at this point in time we are at the point where more RAM will be needed if you expect to keep the your next purchase for awhile.



    This isn't much different than what you see with MAC Book Pros. I purchased one with 2GB of RAM in 2008 which was great for the time. Today there is no way I'd recommend that little RAM in a Mac Book of any type. You would want to buy enough for now and to keep you good into the future and your next update.



    I'm certain that More RAM will solve some of the issues talked about here. But the bigger iipssue in my mind is that it makes the purchase viable for a few more years than it would be otherwise.

     

    Was 2GB the max in 2008 for the MacBook Pro? Seems small. But you make a good point about going for the most. I specced out my 2008 iMac and it's still purring happily with 4GB. I need a 3TB iMac if I want all my DVDs on it; yes, I know I could just use an external drive, but I don't want to split up iTunes.

  • Reply 98 of 108
    misamisa Posts: 827member
    Here's what I think

    iPhone 6(s) or Pro = New A8 CPU/RAM configuration
    iPhone 6(c) or Mini = Previous A7 CPU/RAM configuration (5s)
    IPad Pro = New A8 CPU/RAM configuration
    iPad Air / Mini = Previous A7 CPU/RAM configuration

    Fits the naming scheme of the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air

    Ultimately Apple shouldn't rebrand a product and not change the underlying specs, but there's already some brand confusion with just "iPad" due to the first three versions being called "iPad, iPad 2, The new iPad" , in fact I was confused that there was even a new model after the 3rd generation, as I didn't know if they had upgraded the iPad or replaced it with the mini.
  • Reply 99 of 108
    smalmsmalm Posts: 677member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Relic View Post





    Sie oder mich, stimme ich mit Ihnen.

    Are you from Suisse romande?

  • Reply 100 of 108
    Originally Posted by stuffe View Post

    We're. Talking. About. RAM. Chips.

     

    JAWOHL, MEIN FÜHRER!



    You just don’t get it, do you?

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