Purportedly leaked data from Foxconn again points to 'iPhone 6' with protruding camera lens

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  • Reply 181 of 224
    tenlytenly Posts: 710member
    philboogie wrote: »
    Put a magnetic strip on it and we can make payments with that new iPhone.
    Link? Because that's quite a statement, especially after this:
    Don't tell me you're a socket account for sog(?)

    Sorry. My bad!

    My posts sometimes are sarcastic, sometimes attempt humor and often debate things seriously. I usually assume that my tone and intent is so obvious that even a blind man can hear it - which I really shouldn't assume. I definitely need to start flagging my messages better so readers don't need to guess at the tone of a post.

    In this case, the Sapphire wafer is my own completely made up guess/speculation of something that I hope might be true (but probably isn't.) But hell - even if I go on record and make it an official prediction - I can't possibly be any more wrong than many or the paid analysts or "well connected" rumor mongers! (But how awesome would it be if I turned out to be right? LOL)

    The other quote you included was part of a topic I was genuinely debating. It may have had a sarcastic undertone to it, but it was a genuine opinion.

    This is not a "socket account" for sog or anyone else. It's my one and only.

    So, again - My apologies for any confusion I caused. I'll make more of an effort to add a :) or a /s when appropriate.
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  • Reply 182 of 224
    allenbf wrote: »
    krawall wrote: »
    As much as I like to learn about 'news' on iPhone 6 I wish AI would stop posting these now. It's really been enough.

    Not sure why you're on an Apple rumor site, then?

    So it looks like there will be a sub-1mm lens on the iPhone 6.  I really hope it'll still lay mostly flat on a surface without a case.  But as long as it lives up to/improves the stellar quality of the iPhone's camera, I'll manage  :-)

    Come on Sept 9th!  Shouldn't we be seeing an invitation early next week if Sept 9th is really the day?

    Patience! The more you whine for an invitation, the more likely it is that they delay the launch by a month.
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  • Reply 183 of 224
    sog35 wrote: »
    5.5

    if you don't believe now then you don't believe we landed on the Moon.

    We landed on the moon?! No way! When did *this* happen?!

    I don't recall landing on the moon. Think I might have remembered if I had.
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  • Reply 184 of 224
    sog35 wrote: »
    allenbf wrote: »
     

    You speak like someone who has experience with how small .77 mm is.

    ;-)


    wrong. its so big even a deaf man can see it.

    Your nose, I take it.
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  • Reply 185 of 224
    slurpy wrote: »
    If the camera lens is actually protruding, then I'm sure there's a damn good reason for that, that outweighs any aesthetic concerns some may have. It's not a big deal, especially if it enhances camera performance in some way.

    Wrong.

    It's a big deal.
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  • Reply 186 of 224
    fuzzypaws wrote: »
    If these dimensions are true, the 4.7 is only 1/4 inch (0.7 cm) wider and 1/2 inch (1.4 cm) longer than the existing 5S, which tells me there is definitely not a 4" model coming this time... the 4.7 fits in almost the same size chassis, and shouldn't be any harder for anyone to use. Meanwhile even the 5.5 is less than an inch (2 cm) wider than the 5S, and is actually a few millimeters narrower than the Samsung Galaxy Note 3, albeit a quarter inch longer.

    Can people stop saying these phones are too big? :p

    They can, but they won't, because they're right.
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  • Reply 187 of 224
    sog35 wrote: »
    ralphmouth wrote: »
     

    What if Apple could have made a flat phone with the same amazing camera by increasing the thickness of the phone by 0.77 mm? Based on your reasoning, Apple should have done that because 0.77 mm is nothing.

    for a small piece of the phone its okay.

    But make the ENTIRE phone thicker?  No thank you.

    Apple wants the new phone to be larger but thinner. 
    I like it.  Looks stunning.

    Although the 5.5 looks clownish

    Glad to see you finally admit that the 5.5" is a giant mistake. Yet more proof that it isn't coming.
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  • Reply 188 of 224
    philboogie wrote: »
    elijahg wrote: »
    This is Johnny I've remember; he's shaving millimetres off of desktops when it's completely unnecessary and actually reduces function


    Huh? When did he do that? If you're referring to the removal of the SuperDrive in the iMac, you don't get what Apple, tech and innovation is about. None. Zip. Zilch.

    Indeed. And, I might add, nada, zero, nil.
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  • Reply 189 of 224
    bobschlob wrote: »
     
    If the choice Apple had to make was between having a protrusion sticking out of the back of their phone (making it useless to operate while laying on a flat surface), or making the phone .77mm thicker (along with an accompanied larger battery), I somehow just have the feeling they'd go with the latter.

    Witness the iMac and reconsider your position.

    iMac witnessed and no change in position.
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  • Reply 190 of 224
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    tenly wrote: »
    philboogie wrote: »
    Put a magnetic strip on it and we can make payments with that new iPhone.
    Link? Because that's quite a statement, especially after this:
    Don't tell me you're a socket account for sog(?)

    Sorry. My bad!

    My posts sometimes are sarcastic, sometimes attempt humor and often debate things seriously. I usually assume that my tone and intent is so obvious that even a blind man can hear it - which I really shouldn't assume. I definitely need to start flagging my messages better so readers don't need to guess at the tone of a post.

    In this case, the Sapphire wafer is my own completely made up guess/speculation of something that I hope might be true (but probably isn't.) But hell - even if I go on record and make it an official prediction - I can't possibly be any more wrong than many or the paid analysts or "well connected" rumor mongers! (But how awesome would it be if I turned out to be right? LOL)

    The other quote you included was part of a topic I was genuinely debating. It may have had a sarcastic undertone to it, but it was a genuine opinion.

    This is not a "socket account" for sog or anyone else. It's my one and only.

    So, again - My apologies for any confusion I caused. I'll make more of an effort to add a :) or a /s when appropriate.

    That's a relief. One sog35 is 1 too many already.

    No need to put in a 1000

    ...we don't see them anyway anymore.
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  • Reply 191 of 224
    irun262 wrote: »
    Most people (not on this site) don't care either about upgrading RAM.

    Probably true, but they DO often want to access the storage device, either to increase storage capacity as it becomes available and affordable and/or to replace a failing drive.

    Even if we assume that only a minority will ever need to open their computer, why impose a limitation at all? What is the benefit of making a DESKTOP computer thinner?

    Nope.

    No-one wants to regularly increase their storage because they buy the amount they want in the first place. No-one wants to regularly replace failing drives because they are highly unlikely to fail in the time the Mac is owned.

    We all know you're dying for a headless Mac. Apple already make them. Just buy a Mac Mini or a Mac Pro. One is consumer, the other professional. Problem solved.
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  • Reply 192 of 224

    I try hard but I'm just not that bright!

    Your honesty is admirable.
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  • Reply 193 of 224
    boredumb wrote: »
    sog35 wrote: »
     
    jungmark wrote: »
    Apple isn't going to have the lens stick out from the phone. The design would be awful.

    Do you realize how small .77 of a mm is?

    Its no big deal
    I think the side buttons on my about-to-be-replaced iPhone 4 protrude a little more than that...
    still, it just doesn't seem 'elegant'…
    maybe it extrudes for photographing, and retracts afterwards - except, tiny little motors? nah

    I think that's the only way this would be an acceptable solution—a lens that is flush unless you use it. They should add an optical zoom that does the same thing.
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  • Reply 194 of 224
    indiekiduk wrote: »

    The smallest one is designated N51, presumably meaning the iPhone 5. The middle one is labelled N61, whihc one might guess means iPhone 6. So what do we make of the biggest one being labelled N56? Half-way between an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 6?

    It makes me wonder if there may actually be the much-feared and detested feature differentiation between models, but favoring the 4.7" version, NOT the 5.5.

    If the 4.7 were favoured over the 5.5, your fear and detest would turn to surprise and delight in the eyes of Apple's customers.
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  • Reply 195 of 224
    mstone wrote: »
    sirlance99 wrote: »
     
    [CONTENTEMBED=/t/181945/purportedly-leaked-data-from-foxconn-again-points-to-iphone-6-with-protruding-camera-lens/120#post_2583384 layout=inline]<span style="line-height:1.4em;">So please get off your high horse. You won't but I'm asking kindly because you do say some logical things from time to time. Although this is not one of those times. Just please remember there are more people in the world than yourself who want what they want to use how they want to use it.</span>
    [/CONTENTEMBED]
    He exhibited the same rage about the original iPad mini. Swore that Apple would never release a tablet in the 7" range because Steve said it wouldn't work and when they did release it, he insisted that it was a mistake and would be a failure. Then when it even outsold the full size iPad, it was the buyers who were idiots.

    Then of course the huge Apple blunder of naming the iPhone 5 when clearly it was the 6th edition so it would be named iPhone 6. I mean how could it not be? It was running iOS 6 on an A6 processor of course it will be named iPhone 6.

    He goes on these tirades all the time.

    Apple never did release a tablet in the 7" range. The iPad Mini is 30-40% larger than 7" tablets.

    When you're spouting off at people, it helps if you don't post idiotic comments yourself.
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  • Reply 196 of 224
    mstone wrote: »
    sirlance99 wrote: »
     
    That explains why both models you posted are used with one hand, then.
    You'd have to dial with two hands.
    Or say Hey Siri call <insert name>
    Hey Siri send a message to <insert name> I'll txt you later I have both hands full at the moment.

    Neither of the phones depicted have Siri.

    Nice try.
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  • Reply 197 of 224
    To TS-re post 186.

    Great analysis! Thanks for writing it.
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  • Reply 198 of 224
    Look like Apple is making sure to have buyers for the 6S models. Smart marketing move.
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  • Reply 199 of 224
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    Originally Posted by BobSchlob View Post



     

    If the choice Apple had to make was between having a protrusion sticking out of the back of their phone (making it useless to operate while laying on a flat surface), or making the phone .77mm thicker (along with an accompanied larger battery), I somehow just have the feeling they'd go with the latter.




    Witness the iMac and reconsider your position.




    iMac witnessed and no change in position.

     

    I believe you may have been torpedoed by your rush to contradict anything I post at the expense of comprehension.

     

    I quoted the whole exchange so you can read it again easily. You just said that you believe Apple would make the entire phone THICKER rather than make a skinny phone with a protruding lens. Is that what you meant?

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  • Reply 200 of 224
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    No-one wants to regularly increase their storage because they buy the amount they want in the first place. No-one wants to regularly replace failing drives because they are highly unlikely to fail in the time the Mac is owned.

     

    I know you love to poo-poo everything I write so I can't fault you for jerking your knee, but that is the most patently ridiculous thing I've read here today. OF COURSE people replace storage drives. I don't think there's a single person I know who can say they have never done so either due to wearing out or wanting more storage.

     

    The situation may improve with SSDs, though they still wear out and it remains to be seen if they actually last significantly longer than HDDs. Either way, the desire to increase capacity marches on. I know one person who deals with that by buying ever larger external drives, but that leads to an obvious and ironic question: What the hell is the point of making the computer thinner if it just means you then have to add clutter to the desk with an external drive? Sorta defeats the aesthetic point, doesn't it?

     

    You also completely avoided the question I asked, which is what benefit to the user is realized by making a DESKTOP computer thinner? There may be justification for reducing the thickness of a portable, but there's no payoff with the iMac form. Whether it's 5mm thick at the edge or 25 makes no difference. Why bother if it has negative consequences?

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    Just buy a Mac Mini or a Mac Pro.

     

    I did and did. Well, my employer bought the Pro, but only because I asked nicely. Okay, not nicely. I threw a tantrum when the idea of switching to Windows was floated.

     

    I'm not anti-Mac. I'm anti-form-over-function. I firmly believe the current iMac is an example of that.

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