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  • Reply 141 of 146
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    Sorry for inserting myself into this discussion (I apologize if I'm getting on your nerves), but you must also admit that teachers are human and harbor their own biases. There is no such thing as complete objectivity. Everyone brings to the table their own experiences and opinion.

    Of course they do. But parents who decide to home school are much more biased. If they weren't, they wouldn't be home schooling in the first place.
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  • Reply 142 of 146
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    Sorry for inserting myself into this discussion (I apologize if I'm getting on your nerves), but you must also admit that teachers are human and harbor their own biases. There is no such thing as complete objectivity. Everyone brings to the table their own experiences and opinion.




    Of course they do. But parents who decide to home school are much more biased. If they weren't, they wouldn't be home schooling in the first place.

     

    That's an illogical argument.

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    That's an illogical argument.


     

    I agree and I would need a definition of "biased" as argued.

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  • Reply 144 of 146
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    That's an illogical argument.

    No it isn't. It happens to be true
    That's an illogical argument.

    I agree and I would need a definition of "biased" as argued.

    No it's not. Maybe to you guys. But they wouldn't be home schooling if they did t trust the schools systems to deliver what they think only they can deliver. A survey don't several years ago, though, yes, I dint know where to find it now, said that in the USA, most lRents who home schooled did so for religious reasons. They didn't want the corrupting influence of anything the schools may say that went against their religious beliefs.

    If that's not biased, I don't know what is. We get other extremists home schooling as well. Not everyone fits into these categories. But apparently, most here do.
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  • Reply 145 of 146
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    No it isn't. It happens to be true



    No it's not. Maybe to you guys. But they wouldn't be home schooling if they did t trust the schools systems to deliver what they think only they can deliver. A survey don't several years ago, though, yes, I dint know where to find it now, said that in the USA, most lRents who home schooled did so for religious reasons. They didn't want the corrupting influence of anything the schools may say that went against their religious beliefs.



    If that's not biased, I don't know what is. We get other extremists home schooling as well. Not everyone fits into these categories. But apparently, most here do.

     

    On the other hand, if a person could afford private school or home schooling, but instead insisted on enrolling their offspring in public schools for ideological reasons or because they felt that since they were paying for public school with their tax dollars and "the system" provided a superior learning environment, that would also be a case of bias. If there are options and one is not forced to do something, bias enters the equation.

     

    There may also be a very large percentage of people who disagree with or dislike the public education system, but they feel or believe they have no realistic alternatives. "The state" reinforces the common belief that there are no alternatives and a person should obey and not cause trouble. "The state" knows all. "The state" knows what is best for your children. In other words, keep sending your kids to our school system so our teacher's union will remain entrenched and it will keep our members happy and they won't go on strike... until the next salary dispute inevitably arises.

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  • Reply 146 of 146

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    It has nothing to do with education. It has to do with people trusting in things they shouldn't. Before 9/11, all the talk was about privacy, but afterwards, privacy went down the chute.



    Most younger people don't seen to care about it at all. The put their entire life on Facebook, or other sites. It just doesn't occur to them that nothing they use is truly secure. Everything is so convenient that they just take advantage of it without thinking it through. You can't educate people to have common sense. No matter how many times they read about breaches, they don't think it will happen to them. A lot of these people will continue doing the same thing they've already done.

     

    So sad, but true.  Most people are indeed stupid enough to think that it'll never happen to them.

     

    You may not be able to give people common sense, but you can change people's behavior -- at least around the edges.  I've spent the better part of the last decade "educating" people (and lots of young people) about this stuff.  The results vary a lot, but almost everyone I've spent appreciable time around has reduced their digital/online footprint to some extent.  Anything from not posting pictures of their kids online anymore to outright closing of their facebook accounts to changing company policies about what employees are allowed to do with client data.

     

    You can make a difference through education, it just takes a lot of time an effort.  A huge, noteworthy event like this will change more people's behavior around putting nude selfies online than a thousand people like me educating individuals one-on-one.

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