iPhone 6: First impressions after using Apple's "bigger than bigger" phone

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  • Reply 21 of 113
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,098member

    My all-time favorite calculator/pocket PC when I was in college was my Sharp PC1350, which I still have. I loved the biggie size, full keyboard, programmability, and huge 16 kB memory. The iPhone 6 Plus is nearly identical in dimensions as the PC1350 other than the 6+ being much thinner and light years ahead in performance and usability. Getting the 6+ will be like meeting a old friend once again. Can't wait for 3:01 AM EDT to arrive.

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  • Reply 22 of 113
    jonl wrote: »


    What about going through a drive-thru? I can't imagine anyone handing over their phone for the attendant to run it.

    Pay cash. Drive-thrus don't require a lot of it.
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  • Reply 23 of 113
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    Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post



    Simultaneous voice and data over LTE...yet they already mentioned VoLTE. Maybe I can finally use my phone's data while on on a call on Verizon when using their CDMA network for voice.

     

    VoLTE doesn't necessarily imply that the LTE is open for data too, but yes, that's how it was designed to operate.  The article says simultaneous voice and data over LTE, which is GSM/EDGE and UMTS/HSPA based, not CDMA.  The iPhone won't do both voice and data over CDMA because it requires more antennas than are available.

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  • Reply 24 of 113
    dbhdbh Posts: 41member
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    Originally Posted by uhrgenau View Post



    While Apple Pay sounds like a big step forward in simplifying the payment process there are still some unanswered questions about how it all works.



    It appears that Apple Pay doesn't eliminate the need to stand in a check out line unless the retailer puts multiple terminals around the store.



    Does the retailer still provide a paper receipt? If not, do I have record of the purchase on my phone in the event that I want to return an item since most retailers require a proof of purchase.



    How would Apple Pay work in a restaurant? Does the server bring a terminal to my table in order to complete the purchase much as they currently do with chip and pin systems? How about splitting the bill? How would that work.



    Finally, how close does one have to get to the terminal in order for the NFC reader to work?

    i will not reply to your other concerns as it has been answered already however to give an example, VISA actually has a card face that says VISA Wave.  In itself is a contactless payment wherein the cashier will not need to swipe your card instead you just need to hold your card and yes, wave it near the POS machine. 

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  • Reply 25 of 113
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    Originally Posted by AppleinsiderFrm View Post



    Strange first impressions article. 3/4 of it is just direct apple press release talking points.

     

    Name one "Apple PR talking point" in the article.

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  • Reply 26 of 113
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    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post





    Seriously strange concerns except maybe the paper receipt. I mean of course you have to visibly pay for something and that generally involves queuing at a check out, some self service excepted. Restaurants already bring their credit card readers to tables. You have to get fairly close to the terminal but not as close as a swiped card so you don't need to hand over the device and you can split the bills how you want. Either one person pays in full and gets a cash contribution or you do it by dividing up the bill. Then those are seperate bills and can be paid in different ways.

    Not sure why you consider these points "seriously strange". Since many retailers have reduced staff count in their stores self-checkout is becoming more common. When I use the self service kiosks at the supermarket I am checking myself out. Why couldn't I scan the product SKUs with my phone and then use Apple Pay to pay the bill. If the store wants to check what's in my bag when I leave they can do that. 

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  • Reply 27 of 113
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    Originally Posted by uhrgenau View Post



    While Apple Pay sounds like a big step forward in simplifying the payment process there are still some unanswered questions about how it all works.



    It appears that Apple Pay doesn't eliminate the need to stand in a check out line unless the retailer puts multiple terminals around the store.



    Does the retailer still provide a paper receipt? If not, do I have record of the purchase on my phone in the event that I want to return an item since most retailers require a proof of purchase.



    How would Apple Pay work in a restaurant? Does the server bring a terminal to my table in order to complete the purchase much as they currently do with chip and pin systems? How about splitting the bill? How would that work.



    Finally, how close does one have to get to the terminal in order for the NFC reader to work?

     

    1) Apple Pay can be used within an app, so a storefront could allow customers to pick things up, pay in their app, and go. Just like Apple Retail does. No need for terminals located "throughout the store" or lines.

     

    2) Why would a paper receipt change? First you wouldn't need one, but second, why couldn't a store produce one if they found it important? 

     

    3) Options include in app Apple Pay, remote terminals carried by the server as are common in Europe, or a service like OpenTable. 

     

    4) You buy a terminal from your bank. Alternatively, you wait for Apple to release iPads with NFC and use those.

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  • Reply 28 of 113
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    Originally Posted by dbh View Post

     

    i will not reply to your other concerns as it has been answered already however to give an example, VISA actually has a card face that says VISA Wave.  In itself is a contactless payment wherein the cashier will not need to swipe your card instead you just need to hold your card and yes, wave it near the POS machine. 


     

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    Originally Posted by Corrections View Post

     

     

    1) Apple Pay can be used within an app, so a storefront could allow customers to pick things up, pay in their app, and go. Just like Apple Retail does. No need for terminals located "throughout the store" or lines.

     

    2) Why would a paper receipt change? First you wouldn't need one, but second, why couldn't a store produce one if they found it important? 

     

    3) Options include in app Apple Pay, remote terminals carried by the server as are common in Europe, or a service like OpenTable. 

     

    4) You buy a terminal from your bank. Alternatively, you wait for Apple to release iPads with NFC and use those.


    Your points are all valid and I can see the larger retailers and restaurant chains using the "pay with app" approach. Personally, I would happily dispense with paper receipts because they are a nuisance however, there are still many retailers that require a physical proof of purchase when you want to return something. 

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  • Reply 29 of 113
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    Originally Posted by uhrgenau View Post



    While Apple Pay sounds like a big step forward in simplifying the payment process there are still some unanswered questions about how it all works.



    It appears that Apple Pay doesn't eliminate the need to stand in a check out line unless the retailer puts multiple terminals around the store.



    Does the retailer still provide a paper receipt? If not, do I have record of the purchase on my phone in the event that I want to return an item since most retailers require a proof of purchase.



    How would Apple Pay work in a restaurant? Does the server bring a terminal to my table in order to complete the purchase much as they currently do with chip and pin systems? How about splitting the bill? How would that work.



    Finally, how close does one have to get to the terminal in order for the NFC reader to work?

    Many of these questions are easy to answer IMHO. Apple Pay is just another way to pay, like with credit card, check, cash, etc. It doesn't replace a whole POS system or anything like that and Apple Pay doesn't change the way a consumer shops besides having an alternative to physically swiping their credit card.

     

    Apple Pay does not replace the need to stand in line unless the business creates a mobile in store shopping experience (like what Apple does in their retail stores.) When it is time to pay for your product, you just get out your phone instead of your wallet.

     

    Yes, a retailer still gives you a receipt because they are still ringing you up through their normal POS system. Once again, the only thing that changes here is you pay with your phone, not a physical credit card. The checkout process besides that remains the same.

     

    ApplePay is probably not going to be very common in traditional restaurants. If a restaurant decides to take Apple Pay, servers would come to your table with a mobile payments device, much like what Apple has at their stores. Splitting the bill is not a feature Apple has to worry about, that is up to the terminal or POS software to handle it. Assuming it did support it, a payment terminal could accept multiple Apple Pay users, just like how a server can swipe multiple credit cards in their system for split payment.

     

    Businesses will request from their credit card processor that they can take advantage of ApplePay. Many businesses will also have to work with their POS company to build in support if they process credit cards directly in their software and not through a separate terminal.

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  • Reply 30 of 113
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,830member

    A lot to like with these new models and I am happy they decided to completely ditch the 4" moving forward. Yeah, you can still buy one in last years model but it is safe to say Apple went all in with big. I will definitely be getting the 6+. 

     

    It was a long wait to get a decent sized iPhone but just glad the wait is finally over. As expected, all the naysayers on AI suddenly developed amnesia and think we have forgotten all the crap they said the last year(s). 

     

    There isn't much not to like but I will say I was hoping for a much improved FaceTime camera. I was hoping it would get bumped from 1.2MP to 2 or 3 perhaps. But certainly not a deal killer. Very smart of Apple to release two models. They have grown far too popular to limit themselves to a one size fits all model as they did in the past. Choice is good and their lineup will have something that will appeal to everyone. 4" was simply untenable moving forward and I daresay after people use the new sizes they will understand why everyone prefer a larger display and would never consider using a smaller phone again. 

     

    I think the estimates on Android switchers was hugely underestimated. I follow some phone forums as well and some former Apple bashers/ Samsung fanbois are saying they want to try an iPhone now. They have never ever said that before.  Also don't underestimate iPhone specific plans like the one by Sprint for example that is for iPhones only. Android folks on Sprint are saying they will switch because it will save them around $15 to $30 a month since the cheapest plans are only for the iPhone and not Android. 

     

    Samsung indeed is in for a bag of hurt this year.

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  • Reply 31 of 113
    Are these your first impressions upon reading and regurgitating the press release, or reading and regurgitating the Apple.com website? Seriously, hardly a one actual unscripted impression? Crappy journalism. I expected and was actually counting on more.
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  • Reply 32 of 113
    the white screen goes better with the silicone case colors).


    But the black face goes better with usability.

    You notice in all the promotional pictures they show the backs of the gold and silver phones and the front of the space gray ones. The pictures with it lying on its back, with no visible division between the screen and the bezels and all solid black when the display is off—that is absolutely gorgeous. I don't know why anybody would want white glass as trim—they should offer the black with all metal choices. Well, I don't give a damn what the back looks like anyway—bring on the space gray!
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  • Reply 33 of 113
    hexclockhexclock Posts: 1,357member
    bobschlob wrote: »
    I'm really thrilled with the ability to initiate "tap" / "multi-tap" actions (not clicks) on the button / ring. Will we soon be able to "swipe" on it as well?
    (Hoping)
    Eventually you may be able to mimic a joystick with it. That would be fantastic for all kinds of applications besides games.
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  • Reply 34 of 113
    Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post

    You notice in all the promotional pictures they show the backs of the gold and silver phones and the front of the space gray ones.



    Notice also that they use the 4.7” in every situation except those that require you to see a 5.5”.

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  • Reply 35 of 113
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    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post

     

    All android phablet makers are probably peeing in the pants now. Apple enter the phablet market and take the most of the pie, the rest will be divided for Samsung, Sony, LG, Moto and some unknow Chinese made brands...Damn, Apple, you're cleaning up the mobile world.


    I doubt the Android manufacturers are worried.  They'll do what they do best.  Cut prices to the bare minimum and on new tablets they'll just add even more features.  There's nothing Samsung won't do in order to beat Apple in smartphone and tablet market share.  Samsung's next Galaxy will have an even faster processor, greater display resolution, more camera pixels, etc. just to make the iPhone look bad in terms of specs.  It probably won't help Samsung sell a lot more smartphones but Samsung is not going down without a fight.

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  • Reply 36 of 113
    Did anybody among all the people in this giant purpose-built hands-on area think of laying the phone on its back and trying to rock it? I ask because of the hyperventilating about the "protruding" camera lens ring. Of course it turned out to be much smaller than those Russian and Chinese crude mockups of the case, fabricated from blurry pictures, with 5s internals jammed into them indicated!

    I ask because in that last photo in the original post here, there look like subtle shadow effects which make me wonder if the back doesn't shelve off a little towards the edges—well, the top anyway. Can't wait to see for myself!
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  • Reply 37 of 113
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    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post



    Well written and to the point.

    But the videos add nothing, really.

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  • Reply 38 of 113
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,098member
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    Originally Posted by gwmac View Post

     

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    I think the estimates on Android switchers was hugely underestimated.

     


     

    Maybe. I fully expect the Android sellers are going to seriously turn up the wick on the discount pricing and special offers on their "premium" products just to move units. This will flush the current low end Android products out of the market and create opportunity for Apple and iOS on the "new low end" that is defined by the iPhone 5C/5S. One prime growth opportunity for Apple will be new smartphone users in countries where there is a demand for larger smartphones.

     

    So I see Apple being able to squeeze the Android market from both sides.

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  • Reply 39 of 113
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    Originally Posted by Chandra69 View Post

     

    The thick lines (for antenna), I thought those would be thinner in the original iPhone. But they are as thick as how they were in the leaks.

    I don't like that at all.  But will be buying iPhone 6. (Not Plus.)  :D


     

    Antennabandgate™

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  • Reply 40 of 113
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    Apple's new larger screens, faster processing (with an increasing lead in 64-bit, Metal and Swift), mobile payments, a future Apple Watch tie-in, and tight integration with business class iPads and upcoming Yosemite OS X Continuity features all appear to set the company up for a blockbuster season of iPhone 6 sales.

    That is a lot of significant stuff happening in a compact time frame.  Future, uh yeah future. Wow Apple.

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