There's no such thing as a 17" Macbook Pro. And still, you have no clue what the iPhone size distribution is. And never once did I say they're making the SAME # of both models, so stop beating a strawman. If you knew how to read, you'd see I said MARKETED equally. You seem to randomly latch onto things that you decide to be 100% confident and belligerent about, and digging yourself deeper and deeper.
And enough with the condescending "next you'll be saying.." bullshit. You've seen enough of my posts here to know I'm not a moron, and I have a pretty good idea of how Apple operates, so stop pretending otherwise in order to make snarky comments and stating I'm "wrong" cause you said so.
There is such a thing as a 17" MacBook Pro, just not a current generation. I do however agree with your point that it is a bad analogy. I also think there would be a much larger difference, with the smaller iPhone 6 selling in significantly higher numbers than the iPhone 6 plus had there been more feature parity between the two. I, along with at least 12 other friends of mine are all getting the iPhone 6 plus because of the difference in features, but would rather have the smaller phone.
-PopinFRESH
Yeah; that huge jump in battery life on the Plus I'm sure is going to attract many away from the 6. I think that if the 6 had the same battery life as the Plus, then the 6 would have sold considerably more than the Plus.
Last year I was told by one of the phone salespeople more women than men bought the 6.3" Galaxy Mega. The assumption that the 5.5" 6+ (that's a misnomer if I ever saw one) will only appeal to big men may be inaccurate.
A lot of men still seem to be ignorant about the fact women carry purses. I've seen plenty of petite to large women pulling out very large phones that fit in their purses with ease.
I think a lot of women will get a large iPhone in lieu of a phone and an iPad.
Whereas the iPhone 5s heavily outsold the iPhone 5c, I think the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus will be more evenly balanced. Hardly surprising in a sense, as they are both new models in every way, whereas the 5c was mostly a 5, albeit in a new body and with the odd other tweak.
Adam Levine of Maroon 5 during a Samsung event says he'll be burning his iPhone and after the event tweets from his, you guessed it, iPhone.
Microsoft pays $400M to advertise the Suface as the official tablet of the NFL, but during the game announcers forget its name and call it the "iPad-like tools".
Last year I was told by one of the phone salespeople more women than men bought the 6.3" Galaxy Mega. The assumption that the 5.5" 6+ (that's a misnomer if I ever saw one) will only appeal to big men may be inaccurate.
Well simple consideration: Men have to carry their phones in a small coat pocket at best, but most likely jean pocket or maybe a hip holster. Women have purses, so they can easily afford much bigger ones.
I think you're on to something here. I work in an office building that also houses one of T-Mobile's call centers. You can't escape their employees on the elevators (seven years and running).
Anyway, yeah, only the females seem to carry phablets, or iPhones of late. If any of the guy employees are carrying phablets, they're sure not flaunting them.
This is out dated information. To start with, per an agreement with the FCC all verizon LTE phones are GSM unlocked when you buy them. Next, you CAN swap verizon SIMs to other Verizon phones just fine and they will activate just fine without calling. But the phones need to be Verizon phones for this to work as Verizon whitelists which phones are allowed on their network. That is why Spring phones will not active, even when they have the hardware to. By the way, Verizon's 4G technology is GSM so theres that.
Yes, it's true that all Verizon iPhones are GSM unlocked and you may use them on other networks, but NOT vice-versa. In other word, you cannot use ANY OTHER NON VERIZON phones on their network whether or not it's unlocked. That was my whole point.
It's also true that Verizon's LTE is GSM, but their fall back is STILL CDMA, which means where there is no Verizon LTE, you must be connected to their CDMA to use your phone.
I order through the business group at AT&T. For the past few years my estimated ship dates have said 2-4 weeks past the launch date and I always received my phones on or within 1 week of the in store date. Last year I received phones 2 days before the in store date.
common sense. Apple starting manufactering the iPhones much earlier this time around. Thats why there were more accurate leaks than ever before. Thus they had way more stock than previous years. Thus they will sell more.
Pretty obvious actually, even a deaf man can see it
Seriously, thanks. But please stop. No offense, but this response of yours makes even less sense than your previous one.
For starters, I did not ask you the question. Two, an 'estimate' is not the same thing as a 'guess' (ref. my original question). Three, supply/production is not the same as sales. Four, even if it was in Apple's case, a number such as '15 million', without any reference and empirical context to past data or time frames over which rumors predicted the real thing, are utter nonsense. Five, I really don't understand the juxtaposition of 'deaf' and 'see.' (Perhaps you think you're being cute or sarcastic or amusing, but it's not coming through.)
And, if the number does turn out to be 15 million (which it may.... or may not), please avoid falling into the stupid trap of 'I was right!!!!!!' in the same way that even a broken clock will be right twice a day.
Seriously, thanks. But please stop. No offense, but this response of yours makes even less sense than your previous one.
For starters, I did not ask you the question. Two, an 'estimate' is not the same thing as a 'guess' (ref. my original question). Three, supply/production is not the same as sales. Four, even if it was in Apple's case, a number such as '15 million', without any reference and empirical context to past data or time frames over which rumors predicted the real thing, are utter nonsense. Five, I really don't understand the juxtaposition of 'deaf' and 'see.' (Perhaps you think you're being cute or sarcastic or amusing, but it's not coming through.)
And, if the number does turn out to be 15 million (which it may.... or may not), please avoid falling into the stupid trap of 'I was right!!!!!!' in the same way that even a broken clock will be right twice a day.
On the flipside, there are a lot of women that go out at night wearing slim fitting dresses/formal attire and carrying clutches (small handheld purses for those that don't know) for which the 6+ likely wouldn't fit into so size is still important.
My mother always carries a purse, is hyperopic (farsighted), and her dexterity isn't sublime so I suggested she wait until the 19th to got test the different sizes in an Apple Store.
I'm even holding off on buying until I test the sizes even though I'm pretty certain the 5.5" is way too big for me.
Whenever we see a demonstration with any phone it's always performed without a protective case. The new iPhone 4.7 design without a case could still allow for one handed use. Depending on the protective case I wonder how much that will impact one handed use even with the 4.7. I know sales numbers will be insanely high I just wonder when consumers get them if they will truly be happy with a larger screen even the 4.7. I really hope I'm happy with the larger screen because I really like the size of my 5s.
Yes, it's true that all Verizon iPhones are GSM unlocked and you may use them on other networks, but NOT vice-versa. In other word, you cannot use ANY OTHER NON VERIZON phones on their network whether or not it's unlocked. That was my whole point.
It's also true that Verizon's LTE is GSM, but their fall back is STILL CDMA, which means where there is no Verizon LTE, you must be connected to their CDMA to use your phone.
Yes, I am aware and said as such. But what you have old information on is the need to call and activate. The truth is you can simply swap SIMs from one Verizon phone to another and it works just like it does in pure gsm world.
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There's no such thing as a 17" Macbook Pro. And still, you have no clue what the iPhone size distribution is. And never once did I say they're making the SAME # of both models, so stop beating a strawman. If you knew how to read, you'd see I said MARKETED equally. You seem to randomly latch onto things that you decide to be 100% confident and belligerent about, and digging yourself deeper and deeper.
And enough with the condescending "next you'll be saying.." bullshit. You've seen enough of my posts here to know I'm not a moron, and I have a pretty good idea of how Apple operates, so stop pretending otherwise in order to make snarky comments and stating I'm "wrong" cause you said so.
There is such a thing as a 17" MacBook Pro, just not a current generation. I do however agree with your point that it is a bad analogy. I also think there would be a much larger difference, with the smaller iPhone 6 selling in significantly higher numbers than the iPhone 6 plus had there been more feature parity between the two. I, along with at least 12 other friends of mine are all getting the iPhone 6 plus because of the difference in features, but would rather have the smaller phone.
-PopinFRESH
Yeah; that huge jump in battery life on the Plus I'm sure is going to attract many away from the 6. I think that if the 6 had the same battery life as the Plus, then the 6 would have sold considerably more than the Plus.
Last year I was told by one of the phone salespeople more women than men bought the 6.3" Galaxy Mega. The assumption that the 5.5" 6+ (that's a misnomer if I ever saw one) will only appeal to big men may be inaccurate.
A lot of men still seem to be ignorant about the fact women carry purses. I've seen plenty of petite to large women pulling out very large phones that fit in their purses with ease.
I think a lot of women will get a large iPhone in lieu of a phone and an iPad.
Secondary thoughts on iPhone 6/6 Plus weighting:
Whereas the iPhone 5s heavily outsold the iPhone 5c, I think the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus will be more evenly balanced. Hardly surprising in a sense, as they are both new models in every way, whereas the 5c was mostly a 5, albeit in a new body and with the odd other tweak.
"Bigger is better."
The amount of women I see pulling out a giant asteroi-I MEAN-Android and talking on it is ridiculous. Looks like their talking on a flat screen TV.
SamScum says Apple is copying them in new ad.
In older news:
Adam Levine of Maroon 5 during a Samsung event says he'll be burning his iPhone and after the event tweets from his, you guessed it, iPhone.
Microsoft pays $400M to advertise the Suface as the official tablet of the NFL, but during the game announcers forget its name and call it the "iPad-like tools".
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Last year I was told by one of the phone salespeople more women than men bought the 6.3" Galaxy Mega. The assumption that the 5.5" 6+ (that's a misnomer if I ever saw one) will only appeal to big men may be inaccurate.
Well simple consideration: Men have to carry their phones in a small coat pocket at best, but most likely jean pocket or maybe a hip holster. Women have purses, so they can easily afford much bigger ones.
...we saw more women buying the note than men
I think you're on to something here. I work in an office building that also houses one of T-Mobile's call centers. You can't escape their employees on the elevators (seven years and running).
Anyway, yeah, only the females seem to carry phablets, or iPhones of late. If any of the guy employees are carrying phablets, they're sure not flaunting them.
This is out dated information. To start with, per an agreement with the FCC all verizon LTE phones are GSM unlocked when you buy them. Next, you CAN swap verizon SIMs to other Verizon phones just fine and they will activate just fine without calling. But the phones need to be Verizon phones for this to work as Verizon whitelists which phones are allowed on their network. That is why Spring phones will not active, even when they have the hardware to. By the way, Verizon's 4G technology is GSM so theres that.
Yes, it's true that all Verizon iPhones are GSM unlocked and you may use them on other networks, but NOT vice-versa. In other word, you cannot use ANY OTHER NON VERIZON phones on their network whether or not it's unlocked. That was my whole point.
It's also true that Verizon's LTE is GSM, but their fall back is STILL CDMA, which means where there is no Verizon LTE, you must be connected to their CDMA to use your phone.
What is your 'estimate' based on?
I think I asked someone else the question.
Moreover, I should tell you that I honestly don't understand your answer (you don't have to clarify).
Seriously, thanks. But please stop. No offense, but this response of yours makes even less sense than your previous one.
For starters, I did not ask you the question. Two, an 'estimate' is not the same thing as a 'guess' (ref. my original question). Three, supply/production is not the same as sales. Four, even if it was in Apple's case, a number such as '15 million', without any reference and empirical context to past data or time frames over which rumors predicted the real thing, are utter nonsense. Five, I really don't understand the juxtaposition of 'deaf' and 'see.' (Perhaps you think you're being cute or sarcastic or amusing, but it's not coming through.)
And, if the number does turn out to be 15 million (which it may.... or may not), please avoid falling into the stupid trap of 'I was right!!!!!!' in the same way that even a broken clock will be right twice a day.
I don't believe that's a valid argument in an open forum.
Bitter much?
Poppycock. Look at the stuff gf in her bag:
Weird, cause her bag like this:
Whenever we see a demonstration with any phone it's always performed without a protective case. The new iPhone 4.7 design without a case could still allow for one handed use. Depending on the protective case I wonder how much that will impact one handed use even with the 4.7. I know sales numbers will be insanely high I just wonder when consumers get them if they will truly be happy with a larger screen even the 4.7. I really hope I'm happy with the larger screen because I really like the size of my 5s.
Yes, it's true that all Verizon iPhones are GSM unlocked and you may use them on other networks, but NOT vice-versa. In other word, you cannot use ANY OTHER NON VERIZON phones on their network whether or not it's unlocked. That was my whole point.
It's also true that Verizon's LTE is GSM, but their fall back is STILL CDMA, which means where there is no Verizon LTE, you must be connected to their CDMA to use your phone.
Yes, I am aware and said as such. But what you have old information on is the need to call and activate. The truth is you can simply swap SIMs from one Verizon phone to another and it works just like it does in pure gsm world.