I have to say kudos to AI for not stooping to the Clickbait whoring of MacRumors. Right now on their front page is an article about the phones not survivng a drop test. But there's another video (link below) from Android Authority that also does several drop tests on both phones and the only damage was some scuffs/nicks on the aluminum case. This video though doesn't make it into MR's story. Shameful. :rolleyes:
WOuld anyone be surprised if Sqmsung paid MR to make that their lead story on the launch day?
How many other companies have been convicted by their home country for paying trolls to bad mouth competitors products?
Dan, I really liked the video of how the 6 and 6 Plus fit in different pockets. Unfortunately, though, you neglected to cover the one place where I actually keep my own iPhone 5s: the pocket on the front of my shirt.
So could you do a shirt pocket demo too, please? My iPhone 4S used to fit in that very nicely, and my current 5s is OK too, though the fact that it's a bit taller makes it feel slightly less secure there. I'm concerned that the 6 will be just too big for safety in a shirt pocket... and that the 6 Plus won't even fit in one at all. On the other hand, if the 6 Plus does fit in, but is tight, that might make it more secure than less, in that it'll be less likely to slide out if it's gripped by the pocket.
Dan, I really liked the video of how the 6 and 6 Plus fit in different pockets. Unfortunately, though, you neglected to cover the one place where I actually keep my own iPhone 5s: the pocket on the front of my shirt.
So could you do a shirt pocket demo too, please? My iPhone 4S used to fit in that very nicely, and my current 5s is OK too, though the fact that it's a bit taller makes it feel slightly less secure there. I'm concerned that the 6 will be just too big for safety in a shirt pocket... and that the 6 Plus won't even fit in one at all. On the other hand, if the 6 Plus does fit in, but is tight, that might make it more secure than less, in that it'll be less likely to slide out if it's gripped by the pocket.
This obviously isn't perfect, but here's my cardboard-backed cutouts in my shirt pocket (my 4 spent a lot of time there)
I don't agree with this obsession with thinness. If a phone is too thin, it's actually less comfortable in hand than a slightly thicker phone. My 5S was far more comfortable in the right case or bumper which added some rounded edges and thickness than it was without one.
BTW, your new tactic of embedding your comments within another posters quotes should be pretty effective if your intent is to thwart members from looking up your statements on various subjects or easily respond. It would be quite a creative and sneaky way to avoid accepting ownership of opinions by hiding them from future searches.
Of course I'm not saying that's why you do it. It is an abnormal way for a forum member to respond to another's comments, and something you only recently started, so no doubt there's some reason for you to do so.
WOuld anyone be surprised if Sqmsung paid MR to make that their lead story on the launch day?
How many other companies have been convicted by their home country for paying trolls to bad mouth competitors products?
They wouldnt have to as page views rule these days. :rolleyes:
What blows my mind is for how many years now have the media and Wall Street been saying Apple needs to make bigger phones, they're losing share to Andorid and Asia loves big phones, blah blah blah. Now Apple makes bigger phones and we get stories wondering if they're too big. Big ass phones were great until Apple did them, now they're too big.
EDIT: and right on cue, Reuters has a story about Apple allegedly losing it's cool factor with consumers. :rolleyes:
iFixIt has exposed Apple's new A8 processor in their teardown, which reveals the F8164A3PM inscribed on the chip. The second digit in that sequence, 8, corresponds to 8 Gigabits (1 GB) of RAM in Micron's catalog.
I don't agree with this obsession with thinness. If a phone is too thin, it's actually less comfortable in hand than a slightly thicker phone. My 5S was far more comfortable in the right case or bumper which added some rounded edges and thickness than it was without one.
Agreed. I love how sexy an uncased phone looks (and I've gone back and forth numerous times). But with my 5, I finally settled with a bumper-compromise. It just feels "more right" whether I'm one-handed or two.
They wouldnt have to as page views rule these days.
What blows my mind is for how many years now have the media and Wall Street been saying Apple needs to make bigger phones, they're losing share to Andorid and Asia loves big phones, blah blah blah. Now Apple makes bigger phones and we get stories wondering if they're too big. Big ass phones were great until Apple did them, now they're too big.
Of course, did you really think they would do anything but that. Its the media, they are jerks.
They scream, do something in outer gotham, to stop violence, then when armies are sent in they scream why are we there.
Just like the fandroids who come here. I mean really do the little pimple faced kiddies really think that they will convert anyone from one platform to another with their stupid comments?
They loved the specs war. But now Apple has 64 bit processors and the other phones dont, they never mention processor specs any more.
Then again why do any of those who come here take the bait? Ignoring them and talking about the features of the product treats them like the fools they are.
They have their toys we have ours. Real smart phones arent cheap, only the wannabee phones are. So if you have bought the XYZ model for $600-700 you aren't going to buy another even if you realise your mistake. Unless of course Daddy buys it.
Apple's latest iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are most obviously larger than previous models. However, the new phones aren't just bigger, they're also thinner and have a rounded edge that makes them feel less bulky than other phones with big screens.
Compared alongside the 4 inch iPhone 5s, the new 4.7 inch iPhone 6 and 5.5 inch iPhone 6 Plus look a lot bigger, although they're not nearly the size of even the 7.9 inch iPad mini.
<h2>iPhone 6 unboxing</h2>
While otherwise fancier all around, the new iPhone 6 and 6 Plus ship in a plain white box with a simple embossed shape. Inside the box, there's the same EarPod headphones, Lightning cable and small 1amp (i.e. slow) USB charger.
iPhone 6 is not only larger, but introduces an entirely new industrial design that looks and feels not only more modern but more practical and functional.
The additional, higher resolution of the new "Retina HD" displays allows for an extra row of app icons (6 rows on iPhone 6, compared to 5 on iPhone 5 models and 4 on iPhone 4 and earlier models), while app developers can revamp their titles to make additional use of the extra pixels.
Here's an idea of how big the phones look in your hand (well, my huge hand). We may well look back on smartphones in ten years and ask "what were we thinking?" with the size of big phones, but a lot of us increasingly use our phones as pocket computers more often that we actually hold it to our faces in conversation. And of course Bluetooth headsets have also become a popular option.
In 2012 Android phablets took off, with the Samsung Note II reaching 5.5 inches. However, to accommodate the large screen, Samsung shipped a device 9.4 to 9.7 mm thick and weighing over 6.3 to 6.5 ounces (180 to 185 grams). Samsung improved its phablet thickness and weight numbers last year to 8.3 mm, but is now getting larger again with the 8.5mm, 176 gram Galaxy Note 4.
Apple formerly maintained the thinnest flagship with the 7.6 mm thin iPhone 5s, while the HTC One hit 9.3 mm and Google's Motorola X and Nokia's Lumia 1020 both reached 10.4 mm.
Apple's iPhone line is now catching up in screen sizes, but not without major improvements in design and build to hide the heft and bulk normally associated with the "phablet" category. Apple's 4.7 inch iPhone 6 is just 6.9 mm thick and weighs only 129g, while the larger 5.5 inch iPhone 6 Plus is only 7.1mm thick and weighs 172 g.
In other words, both of the new iPhone 6 models are thinner than the super slim iPhone 5s already was. They also sport a unibody aluminum shell with a new rounded edge design that makes them more comfortable to hold and frictionless to slide in your pocket. This really does hide much of the added size of both.
Rather than a chunky "phablet," the two new iPhone 6 models feel like modern and expansive versions of the familiar iPhone. The smaller iPhone 6 feels sort of "just right" for an iPhone while the larger 6 Plus initially seems oversized, as if too big to be real.
However, the more you use it, the more you might find it easy to like. The additional resolution allows for iPad-like user interface elements in Mail, Messages and other apps, and the Home screen also pivots to landscape (and even upside down), the first iPhone to behave in such a fashion.
There's also Optical Image Stabilization on the iPhone 6 Plus, which is otherwise nearly identical in specifications to its scaled down sibling. The choice really comes down to size, and in particular how big you feel is too big. However, it seems Apple worked hard to make iPhone 6 Plus an alluring choice for a $100 premium, even for those of us who never thought we'd want a very big phone.
<em>AppleInsider</em> is preparing an in-depth review to cover the other details of the new phones, so be sure to post your questions in the comments so we can try to find answers.
BTW, your new tactic of embedding your comments within another posters quotes should be pretty effective if your intent is to thwart members from looking up your statements on various subjects or easily respond. It would be quite a creative and sneaky way to avoid accepting ownership of opinions by hiding them from future searches.
Of course I'm not saying that's why you do it. It is an abnormal way for a forum member to respond to another's comments, and something you only recently started, so no doubt there's some reason for you to do so.
Perhaps it's easier to comment within one quote rather than splitting it several times to make a comment.
Dan, I really liked the video of how the 6 and 6 Plus fit in different pockets. Unfortunately, though, you neglected to cover the one place where I actually keep my own iPhone 5s: the pocket on the front of my shirt.
So could you do a shirt pocket demo too, please? My iPhone 4S used to fit in that very nicely, and my current 5s is OK too, though the fact that it's a bit taller makes it feel slightly less secure there. I'm concerned that the 6 will be just too big for safety in a shirt pocket... and that the 6 Plus won't even fit in one at all. On the other hand, if the 6 Plus does fit in, but is tight, that might make it more secure than less, in that it'll be less likely to slide out if it's gripped by the pocket.
This obviously isn't perfect, but here's my cardboard-backed cutouts in my shirt pocket (my 4 spent a lot of time there)
The 6:
And 6 Plus:
Thanks a lot for doing that – very instructive!
It's just as I feared, I'm afraid: the iPhone 6 is really too big, and the 6 Plus looks completely ridiculous!
Oh well. I won't be upgrading for at least another year, so I've plenty of time to consider my pocket options!
The article amuses the hell out of me. AI is tacitly saying that Apple has finally lost it's lead in Smartphones. I mean REALLY !! if the only thing you can find that stands out about the 6/6+ is that it is a millimeter thinner than the Samsung Note 3 .. then you're saying a lot and its all bad. Where is the Wow effect ?
I guess you were looking for a Samsung-style "Wow" effect, such as a store full of apps that don't work properly on the new form factors. Unfortunately for you, the million or so iPhone apps will all look and work great from day 1, because of the preparation Apple and iOS developers already made. You're right, though, we've gotten used to this level of comfort with Apple products and don't really think about it any more.
It's just as I feared, I'm afraid: the iPhone 6 is really too big, and the 6 Plus looks completely ridiculous!
Oh well. I won't be upgrading for at least another year, so I've plenty of time to consider my pocket options!
I think the 6 will be okay, it's a little large but not bad. The top bezel is the only part that shows, really. The Plus is ridiculous in most aspects. I was tempted by it until I got that mockup ready, then realized that one-handed texting would be completely out, and that it really didn't fit in my pockets.
I'd like to see an iPod Touch in that size though.
I don't agree with this obsession with thinness. If a phone is too thin, it's actually less comfortable in hand than a slightly thicker phone. My 5S was far more comfortable in the right case or bumper which added some rounded edges and thickness than it was without one.
You can always add thickness (as you point out you did). Those of us that like thinness would be out of luck if Apple made them thicker.
Personally, I have never been able to keep a case on my 5. It always felt too bulky.
The Plus is ridiculous in most aspects. I was tempted by it until I got that mockup ready, then realized that one-handed texting would be completely out, and that it really didn't fit in my pockets.
To own an iPhone 6 Plus, one needs deep pockets in every sense!
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I'd like to see an iPod Touch in that size though.
Agreed. That'd be pretty tempting, I guess – especially if it had the same camera as the iPhone 6 Plus.
You can always add thickness (as you point out you did). Those of us that like thinness would be out of luck if Apple made them thicker.
Personally, I have never been able to keep a case on my 5. It always felt too bulky.
True, but I'd prefer if they sacrificed some of the extreme thinness for a larger battery without having to add one of those super-bulky external power cases.
The article amuses the hell out of me. AI is tacitly saying that Apple has finally lost it's lead in Smartphones.
The fact that you think that amuses me.
Truth is that the 6+ is barely distinguishable from the Samsung note II from its appearance (yeah, the note 2 had rounded edges too ... sooooo modern).
This is the tech equivalent of trying to prostitute yourself in a colonial quaker town on the eastern seaboard.
But the hardware race has been lost.
Yeah, so, the iPhone has the fastest hardware on the planet... and has lost.
Look, could you do us all a favor and never post again? It gets annoying having to refute you for any new readers who might think you are speaking sense.
Originally Posted by potatoman
Those boxes! Whhhyyyy. They are ridiculously unappealing. Imagine them on a shelf in a store. Eugh.
Yeah, they’re just not... I don’t get it.
Originally Posted by RonMG
Why slap a bunch of color and pictures all over a box that will get thrown away by most people?
People throw away their boxes?! I still have my BAG from the Day One 2007 iPhone launch.
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WOuld anyone be surprised if Sqmsung paid MR to make that their lead story on the launch day?
How many other companies have been convicted by their home country for paying trolls to bad mouth competitors products?
This obviously isn't perfect, but here's my cardboard-backed cutouts in my shirt pocket (my 4 spent a lot of time there)
The 6:
And 6 Plus:
I don't agree with this obsession with thinness. If a phone is too thin, it's actually less comfortable in hand than a slightly thicker phone. My 5S was far more comfortable in the right case or bumper which added some rounded edges and thickness than it was without one.
BTW, your new tactic of embedding your comments within another posters quotes should be pretty effective if your intent is to thwart members from looking up your statements on various subjects or easily respond. It would be quite a creative and sneaky way to avoid accepting ownership of opinions by hiding them from future searches.
Of course I'm not saying that's why you do it. It is an abnormal way for a forum member to respond to another's comments, and something you only recently started, so no doubt there's some reason for you to do so.
They wouldnt have to as page views rule these days. :rolleyes:
What blows my mind is for how many years now have the media and Wall Street been saying Apple needs to make bigger phones, they're losing share to Andorid and Asia loves big phones, blah blah blah. Now Apple makes bigger phones and we get stories wondering if they're too big. Big ass phones were great until Apple did them, now they're too big.
EDIT: and right on cue, Reuters has a story about Apple allegedly losing it's cool factor with consumers. :rolleyes:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/consumers-apple-losing-cool-factor-110438467.html
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/18/iphone-6-plus-teardown/
iFixIt has exposed Apple's new A8 processor in their teardown, which reveals the F8164A3PM inscribed on the chip. The second digit in that sequence, 8, corresponds to 8 Gigabits (1 GB) of RAM in Micron's catalog.
I don't agree with this obsession with thinness. If a phone is too thin, it's actually less comfortable in hand than a slightly thicker phone. My 5S was far more comfortable in the right case or bumper which added some rounded edges and thickness than it was without one.
Agreed. I love how sexy an uncased phone looks (and I've gone back and forth numerous times). But with my 5, I finally settled with a bumper-compromise. It just feels "more right" whether I'm one-handed or two.
They wouldnt have to as page views rule these days.
What blows my mind is for how many years now have the media and Wall Street been saying Apple needs to make bigger phones, they're losing share to Andorid and Asia loves big phones, blah blah blah. Now Apple makes bigger phones and we get stories wondering if they're too big. Big ass phones were great until Apple did them, now they're too big.
Of course, did you really think they would do anything but that. Its the media, they are jerks.
They scream, do something in outer gotham, to stop violence, then when armies are sent in they scream why are we there.
Just like the fandroids who come here. I mean really do the little pimple faced kiddies really think that they will convert anyone from one platform to another with their stupid comments?
They loved the specs war. But now Apple has 64 bit processors and the other phones dont, they never mention processor specs any more.
Then again why do any of those who come here take the bait? Ignoring them and talking about the features of the product treats them like the fools they are.
They have their toys we have ours. Real smart phones arent cheap, only the wannabee phones are. So if you have bought the XYZ model for $600-700 you aren't going to buy another even if you realise your mistake. Unless of course Daddy buys it.
As for the media just read another paper etc
Android AND Apple fanboys are all chumps.
yeah right
Perhaps it's easier to comment within one quote rather than splitting it several times to make a comment.
Dan, I really liked the video of how the 6 and 6 Plus fit in different pockets. Unfortunately, though, you neglected to cover the one place where I actually keep my own iPhone 5s: the pocket on the front of my shirt.
So could you do a shirt pocket demo too, please? My iPhone 4S used to fit in that very nicely, and my current 5s is OK too, though the fact that it's a bit taller makes it feel slightly less secure there. I'm concerned that the 6 will be just too big for safety in a shirt pocket... and that the 6 Plus won't even fit in one at all. On the other hand, if the 6 Plus does fit in, but is tight, that might make it more secure than less, in that it'll be less likely to slide out if it's gripped by the pocket.
This obviously isn't perfect, but here's my cardboard-backed cutouts in my shirt pocket (my 4 spent a lot of time there)
The 6:
And 6 Plus:
Thanks a lot for doing that – very instructive!
It's just as I feared, I'm afraid: the iPhone 6 is really too big, and the 6 Plus looks completely ridiculous!
Oh well. I won't be upgrading for at least another year, so I've plenty of time to consider my pocket options!
The article amuses the hell out of me. AI is tacitly saying that Apple has finally lost it's lead in Smartphones. I mean REALLY !! if the only thing you can find that stands out about the 6/6+ is that it is a millimeter thinner than the Samsung Note 3 .. then you're saying a lot and its all bad. Where is the Wow effect ?
I guess you were looking for a Samsung-style "Wow" effect, such as a store full of apps that don't work properly on the new form factors. Unfortunately for you, the million or so iPhone apps will all look and work great from day 1, because of the preparation Apple and iOS developers already made. You're right, though, we've gotten used to this level of comfort with Apple products and don't really think about it any more.
I think the 6 will be okay, it's a little large but not bad. The top bezel is the only part that shows, really. The Plus is ridiculous in most aspects. I was tempted by it until I got that mockup ready, then realized that one-handed texting would be completely out, and that it really didn't fit in my pockets.
I'd like to see an iPod Touch in that size though.
You can always add thickness (as you point out you did). Those of us that like thinness would be out of luck if Apple made them thicker.
Personally, I have never been able to keep a case on my 5. It always felt too bulky.
Thanks a lot for doing that – very instructive!
It's just as I feared, I'm afraid: the iPhone 6 is really too big, and the 6 Plus looks completely ridiculous!
Oh well. I won't be upgrading for at least another year, so I've plenty of time to consider my pocket options!
I'm just getting bigger pockets.
To own an iPhone 6 Plus, one needs deep pockets in every sense!
Quote:
You can always add thickness (as you point out you did). Those of us that like thinness would be out of luck if Apple made them thicker.
Personally, I have never been able to keep a case on my 5. It always felt too bulky.
True, but I'd prefer if they sacrificed some of the extreme thinness for a larger battery without having to add one of those super-bulky external power cases.
The fact that you think that amuses me.
Truth is that the 6+ is barely distinguishable from the Samsung note II from its appearance (yeah, the note 2 had rounded edges too ... sooooo modern).
This is the tech equivalent of trying to prostitute yourself in a colonial quaker town on the eastern seaboard.
Yeah, so, the iPhone has the fastest hardware on the planet... and has lost.
Look, could you do us all a favor and never post again? It gets annoying having to refute you for any new readers who might think you are speaking sense.
Yeah, they’re just not... I don’t get it.
People throw away their boxes?! I still have my BAG from the Day One 2007 iPhone launch.