No, wrong guy. I have had Macs for a very long time but my ego is not inflated, I am not unduly arrogant, and I don't think my experience is worth more than anyone else's - far from it. Having said that I don't suffer fools easily and likewise prickish attitude. Generally, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt. And I never had Yosemite beta installed.
In the past plugging a device into the computer has been a convoluted process with mixed results. As I have mentioned before there are many devices in my house and it seems iTunes have gotten confused. I have lost back-ups, and I have restored iPods and IPhones only to have ended up with a mishmash of music and apps on the device. Maybe things are better now but I really prefer to manage my device directly if possible. In this case, where I am experiencing issues and I am stuck with a number of songs that refuse to be deleted, I will follow your advice and hopefully my digital life will get back on track. I have no problems with that.
Ok... my apologies for getting you mixed up with someone else and not taking a look at my previous posts first to be sure.
I must say I haven't ran across you particular problems... and I do service a rather sizable number of devices and Macs at different locations. One of my clients... a buddy actually... has 12 devices for him and his family, stretched over 5 separate iTunes accounts and using one Apple Store account. Things do get difficult sometimes to sort out, but one thing is certain: we have never lost a purchased app ever to an account. You can always and easily delete or re-download purchases. Sometimes even when a specific app is crashing a lot, just delete, hard reset the device, then re-downloading the app can fix the glitch.
I think you're going to be loving the Family setup... so if you haven't already, be sure that each family member has their own Apple ID. Also be sure to individually name your devices at set-up time. Nothing worse than 2 devices with the same or similar name like Paxman's iPhone or Paxman's iPad spread out across Macs or accounts, etc. Also, for family members create a separate login/user account on your Mac for each one. Then create your (new in iOS8) Family Sharing account and preferences. Also, if you were doing set-up and management only on iCloud and want to keep it that way, while risky IMHO, be sure you don't have Automatic Downloads to devices or to iTunes checked under Preferences -> Store, nor sync over Wifi turned on. While iCloud works pretty great in most cases, I still always feel safer having a somewhat recent local backup + TimeMachine.
Last but not least, the simplest of maintenance routines is to repair permissions every once in awhile, but especially when upgrades come down for main OSX programs like iTunes, Mail, Safari, etc. It normally takes less than a couple of minutes, so time it if you're just getting up from your desk for a few minutes.
I fully agree that Apple should spend the time soon to rework iTunes completely. It's become so much more than it was ever intended to do, and so many people are confused and frustrated by it, that there most likely would be an audible cheer heard around the world on the announcement. Probably none louder than those like myself that have to try and help people work with it(!)
*** Hope I could be of some help... :smokey:
[@]aelegg[/@] too, whenever you decide to get your head out! Regardless of Apple "just works" most of the time, it's still a piece of tech that needs some care and cleaning inside and out once in awhile.... rather than "asking questions" where you've stated your stupid opinion, before even receiving "possibly" the answer to your problems. Try some of the suggestions in this thread, and you might be surprised to find that your 4s' are just fine. Possibly not as "speedy" as before... which isn't surprising... but still very usable. The price we all pay for Apple developing their chip and OS capabilities at warp-speed in comparison to other eras.
My experience with IOS 8 on an iPhone 5s and an iPad Air so far has left me looking forward to the bug fixing first and second iterations. Crashes, frozen apps and little annoyances keep appearing. Anyone else found this to be the case? The OS is by no means unusable but buggy enough I suggest to friends and family to hold off for the time being.
No. worked flawlessly on my iPhone 5, iPad Air, iPhone 5S and of course iPhone 6+.
iOS 8.0 has been a lot more stable on my iPhone 5 and iPad mini than 7.0 was.
except the Swiftkey installed in my iPhone 5...sometimes didn't even load and I had to refresh it. Again, it's third party app. Apple keyboard works flawlessly. Other than that, no issue with battery, network connections, built-in apps, call, text, FaceTime, Pictures, Video..worked well.
I have a feeling that more than a few people are unable to do an update because they are trying to do it OTA and don't have the 5.8GB free.
And it's been slightly buggy on my 5s, and rebooted itself 3x on my iPad 3. The iPad is also now slowing down. 100% certain this is Apple's way of getting ppl like me to upgrade otherwise good hardware.
Really? I don't see any difference in my iPhone 5, so "buggy" in your 5S is quite questionable...
And those 5 percent people are probably the original iPad - iPhone 4 users (it's not fast enough to run it properly), and those who just didn't like ios 7 much
Additionally, some iPad musicians who accidentally updated to iOS 8 are seeking to take advantage of the short term ability to
downgrade again to 7.1.2
That ability is no longer available. Bragging about iOS 8 adoption rates while preventing people from undoing the upgrade on older devices is disingenuous.
Ok... my apologies for getting you mixed up with someone else and not taking a look at my previous posts first to be sure.
I must say I haven't ran across you particular problems... and I do service a rather sizable number of devices and Macs at different locations. One of my clients... a buddy actually... has 12 devices for him and his family, stretched over 5 separate iTunes accounts and using one Apple Store account. Things do get difficult sometimes to sort out, but one thing is certain: we have never lost a purchased app ever to an account. You can always and easily delete or re-download purchases. Sometimes even when a specific app is crashing a lot, just delete, hard reset the device, then re-downloading the app can fix the glitch.
I think you're going to be loving the Family setup... so if you haven't already, be sure that each family member has their own Apple ID. Also be sure to individually name your devices at set-up time. Nothing worse than 2 devices with the same or similar name like Paxman's iPhone or Paxman's iPad spread out across Macs or accounts, etc. Also, for family members create a separate login/user account on your Mac for each one. Then create your (new in iOS8) Family Sharing account and preferences. Also, if you were doing set-up and management only on iCloud and want to keep it that way, while risky IMHO, be sure you don't have Automatic Downloads to devices or to iTunes checked under Preferences -> Store, nor sync over Wifi turned on. While iCloud works pretty great in most cases, I still always feel safer having a somewhat recent local backup + TimeMachine.
Last but not least, the simplest of maintenance routines is to repair permissions every once in awhile, but especially when upgrades come down for main OSX programs like iTunes, Mail, Safari, etc. It normally takes less than a couple of minutes, so time it if you're just getting up from your desk for a few minutes.
I fully agree that Apple should spend the time soon to rework iTunes completely. It's become so much more than it was ever intended to do, and so many people are confused and frustrated by it, that there most likely would be an audible cheer heard around the world on the announcement. Probably none louder than those like myself that have to try and help people work with it(!)
*** Hope I could be of some help... :smokey:
No problem and thanks for the advice.
I pretty much do all of the above and I'm well versed in repairing permissions. Re the iPhone, one day when I have the time I will fully restore it through iTunes an re-download my apps. By that time there will probably be another update:)
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Ok... my apologies for getting you mixed up with someone else and not taking a look at my previous posts first to be sure.
I must say I haven't ran across you particular problems... and I do service a rather sizable number of devices and Macs at different locations. One of my clients... a buddy actually... has 12 devices for him and his family, stretched over 5 separate iTunes accounts and using one Apple Store account. Things do get difficult sometimes to sort out, but one thing is certain: we have never lost a purchased app ever to an account. You can always and easily delete or re-download purchases. Sometimes even when a specific app is crashing a lot, just delete, hard reset the device, then re-downloading the app can fix the glitch.
I think you're going to be loving the Family setup... so if you haven't already, be sure that each family member has their own Apple ID. Also be sure to individually name your devices at set-up time. Nothing worse than 2 devices with the same or similar name like Paxman's iPhone or Paxman's iPad spread out across Macs or accounts, etc. Also, for family members create a separate login/user account on your Mac for each one. Then create your (new in iOS8) Family Sharing account and preferences. Also, if you were doing set-up and management only on iCloud and want to keep it that way, while risky IMHO, be sure you don't have Automatic Downloads to devices or to iTunes checked under Preferences -> Store, nor sync over Wifi turned on. While iCloud works pretty great in most cases, I still always feel safer having a somewhat recent local backup + TimeMachine.
Last but not least, the simplest of maintenance routines is to repair permissions every once in awhile, but especially when upgrades come down for main OSX programs like iTunes, Mail, Safari, etc. It normally takes less than a couple of minutes, so time it if you're just getting up from your desk for a few minutes.
I fully agree that Apple should spend the time soon to rework iTunes completely. It's become so much more than it was ever intended to do, and so many people are confused and frustrated by it, that there most likely would be an audible cheer heard around the world on the announcement. Probably none louder than those like myself that have to try and help people work with it(!)
*** Hope I could be of some help... :smokey:
[@]aelegg[/@] too, whenever you decide to get your head out! Regardless of Apple "just works" most of the time, it's still a piece of tech that needs some care and cleaning inside and out once in awhile.... rather than "asking questions" where you've stated your stupid opinion, before even receiving "possibly" the answer to your problems. Try some of the suggestions in this thread, and you might be surprised to find that your 4s' are just fine. Possibly not as "speedy" as before... which isn't surprising... but still very usable. The price we all pay for Apple developing their chip and OS capabilities at warp-speed in comparison to other eras.
My experience with IOS 8 on an iPhone 5s and an iPad Air so far has left me looking forward to the bug fixing first and second iterations. Crashes, frozen apps and little annoyances keep appearing. Anyone else found this to be the case? The OS is by no means unusable but buggy enough I suggest to friends and family to hold off for the time being.
No. worked flawlessly on my iPhone 5, iPad Air, iPhone 5S and of course iPhone 6+.
iOS 8.0 has been a lot more stable on my iPhone 5 and iPad mini than 7.0 was.
except the Swiftkey installed in my iPhone 5...sometimes didn't even load and I had to refresh it. Again, it's third party app. Apple keyboard works flawlessly. Other than that, no issue with battery, network connections, built-in apps, call, text, FaceTime, Pictures, Video..worked well.
I have a feeling that more than a few people are unable to do an update because they are trying to do it OTA and don't have the 5.8GB free.
And it's been slightly buggy on my 5s, and rebooted itself 3x on my iPad 3. The iPad is also now slowing down. 100% certain this is Apple's way of getting ppl like me to upgrade otherwise good hardware.
Really? I don't see any difference in my iPhone 5, so "buggy" in your 5S is quite questionable...
And those 5 percent people are probably the original iPad - iPhone 4 users (it's not fast enough to run it properly), and those who just didn't like ios 7 much
I'm getting some random soft restarts. Could do a hard restart, I suppose.
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Additionally, some iPad musicians who accidentally updated to iOS 8 are seeking to take advantage of the short term ability to
downgrade again to 7.1.2
That ability is no longer available. Bragging about iOS 8 adoption rates while preventing people from undoing the upgrade on older devices is disingenuous.
Nope.
That ability is no longer available.
Are you sure? Someone better tell MacWorld - http://www.macworld.com/article/2687162/how-to-downgrade.html ;
I pretty much do all of the above and I'm well versed in repairing permissions. Re the iPhone, one day when I have the time I will fully restore it through iTunes an re-download my apps. By that time there will probably be another update:)