Jony Ive confirms Apple Watch three years in the making as designer's media blitz continues

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  • Reply 61 of 174
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    melgross wrote: »
    To show how little you know, it's not called the iWatch. At least, come up to speed.

    But your complaint is against watches in general. No matter that most, though not all, have hands. Many watch designs are almost incomprehensible. The Apple Watch is more readable than many.

    My Apple keyboard on my iPhone doesn't have an Apple sign- sorry. You got what I meant. Readable?that's laughable - why because it invented a digital read out??
  • Reply 62 of 174
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    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post





    Ive is extremely overrated. Steve would reign him in. It's been well documented how he's stolen extensively from the house of Braun and Leica most successfully.

    So let' see YOUR accomplishments, along with better spelling. It's "rein" not "reign."

  • Reply 63 of 174
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,772member
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    Actually Jony has said they it was Steve sense of design that drove things, Jony would bring in 20 prototype designs and steve would just knock them off the table and only leave the ones he though were even worth considering. Jony is good but any real talent needs critics to keep them on the right path.


    That's a critic which is different from a designer. I have already said that Steve has taste (other wise known as a sense of design).

     

    You rephrased what I've already said.

  • Reply 64 of 174
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    maestro64 wrote: »
    Actually Jony has said they it was Steve sense of design that drove things, Jony would bring in 20 prototype designs and steve would just knock them off the table and only leave the ones he though were even worth considering. Jony is good but any real talent needs critics to keep them on the right path.

    Steve was CEO so he had the final say. Designers would typically show him three things - two were sacrificial lambs for the one they knew he would like. But we also knew there were times where Steve needed to be convinced or had his mind changed. Or times where he flat out was wrong - like when Jon Rubinstein wanted to put a CD-ROM tray in the iMac (so it could be used to burn CDs) but Steve insisted on a slot loading drive for purely aesthetic reasons.
  • Reply 65 of 174
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    danielsw wrote: »
    So let' see YOUR accomplishments, along with better spelling. It's "rein" not "reign."

    I was in a spelling bee once.
  • Reply 66 of 174
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    You could describe the original iPhone as an iTunes accessory so that people don't have to go to all the trouble of carrying a separate mobile phone and iPod.
    Lots of good clam chowder in this thread. The line outside Colette yesterday was HUGE. And that was just to see the watch behind a glass case. I wouldn't be surprised at all if something similar is created in some of the bigger Apple stores for the holiday season. Would guarantee foot traffic and who knows, if people are in the store looking at the Watch they just might decide to buy something else while they're there.
  • Reply 67 of 174
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    Super niche-y.


     

    Super Nietzsche.

     

    "Without an Apple Watch, life would be a mistake."


     

    Or perhaps, "If you gaze long into an Apple Watch, the Apple Watch will gaze back into you."

  • Reply 68 of 174
    He's trolling and he knows it.
  • Reply 69 of 174
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,979member
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    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post





    My Apple keyboard on my iPhone doesn't have an Apple sign- sorry. You got what I meant. Readable?that's laughable - why because it invented a digital read out??

    It's called the Apple Watch. While Apple uses the icon, they also refer to it simply using their name. You should go to Apple's site and look at the images, and read about it before posting here.

     

    It has nothing to do with a digital readout. There are analog faces as well as digital ones. There is even a Micky Mouse face, which is always popular.

     

    And, yes, its very readable. Seriously, there is no way you can convince anyone that these faces aren't very readable, because it's obvious that you haven't looked at them.

     

     

     

    So, none of those are readable to you?

  • Reply 70 of 174
    rogifan wrote: »
    maestro64 wrote: »
    Actually Jony has said they it was Steve sense of design that drove things, Jony would bring in 20 prototype designs and steve would just knock them off the table and only leave the ones he though were even worth considering. Jony is good but any real talent needs critics to keep them on the right path.

    Steve was CEO so he had the final say. Designers would typically show him three things - two were sacrificial lambs for the one they knew he would like. But we also knew there were times where Steve needed to be convinced or had his mind changed. Or times where he flat out was wrong - like when Jon Rubinstein wanted to put a CD-ROM tray in the iMac (so it could be used to burn CDs) but Steve insisted on a slot loading drive for purely aesthetic reasons.

    The first iMacs were tray-loaders. I had one. (Well, it's still around somewhere). They could read and burn CDs. A few could read and burn DVDs. Then two years later, the slot-loaders came out. I've had two of them. Both are stuck on Tiger, but still work fine as far as that goes. Both can read and burn CDs. Some (but neither one of mine) could at least read DVDs. So tray-loading vs. slot-loading has nothing to do with their disc-reading or -writing capabilities.
  • Reply 71 of 174
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 7,454member
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    Originally Posted by popnfresh View Post



    Three years to design a $350 iPhone accessory that sits on your wrist so that people don't have to go to all the trouble of taking their iPhone out of their pocket to look at it? I guess this is what passes for "innovation" in the post-Steve era.



    Because you are a low end type you have no idea what the fashion watch industry is like. The ?Watch is not about being an iPhone accessory, it’s going to be part of the high end fashion industry. While you might not spend more than $10 for a cheap Timex (if at all) this product will be for the people who buy TAG Heuer, Movado, Burberry, Victorinox, etc., watches that are in the $1000 price range and higher. Apple made the right decision here not to wallow in the shallow end of the gene pool market wise. You’ll be seeing the ?Watch on the wrists of celebrities and CEOs, not basement nerds with no disposable income. 

  • Reply 72 of 174
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    melgross wrote: »
    It's called the Apple Watch. While Apple uses the icon, they also refer to it simply using their name. You should go to Apple's site and look at the images, and read about it before posting here.

    It has nothing to do with a digital readout. There are analog faces as well as digital ones. There is even a Micky Mouse face, which is always popular.

    And, yes, its very readable. Seriously, there is no way you can convince anyone that these faces aren't very readable, because it's obvious that you haven't looked at them.

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="50000" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/50000/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 219px">


    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="50001" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/50001/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 219px">


    So, none of those are readable to you?

    I have looked at this and simply refuse to spell out "apple" every time.
    The Mickey mouse face has been available on my 6th Gen Nano for three years now. Perhaps you're the one who needs to read up on what's up with Apple.
    I can read time as easily as my Nano. Good luck reading email , texts, etc on it. And have more fun picking at it constantly to open icons etc.
  • Reply 73 of 174
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    He's trolling and he knows it.

    He's a troll and he'll never ever be any good
    He's a troll 'cause he never ever does what he should?
  • Reply 74 of 174
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 31,497member
    How about we take a second a talk about the naming of the various Apple Watch lines...

    -Apple Watch
    -Apple Watch Sport
    -Apple Watch Edition... Edition? Really?

    The Edition name is very weak and unsuitable for their highest priced product (fortunately, the industrial design is outstanding, so that offsets a lot of the clumsy choice of name). Anyone read or hear anything explaining their choice to use the word "Edition"?

    Alternates they could've used?

    -Luxe
    -Style
    -Executive
    -Designer Series
    -Couture
  • Reply 75 of 174
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,979member

    So, lets look at some great, expensive, analog watch designs, and see how readable, or attractive, they are. There are a lot more I could have posted. This is such a "small" number of the designs out there. Maybe more in another post.

     

  • Reply 76 of 174
    Tim would love for you to believe it was all his idea.
    While Steve Jobs was at Apple the idea of a watch was floated but Steve kept saying "wait" or "no". He didn't think there was a market for such a device.
    Tim and Jony however were both for the idea and Tim put the Apple watch team together. Kudos to Tim and Jony for understanding the fashion side of the equation and hiring the right people to execute such a strategy.
  • Reply 77 of 174
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,979member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post





    I have looked at this and simply refuse to spell out "apple" every time.

    The Mickey mouse face has been available on my 6th Gen Nano for three years now. Perhaps you're the one who needs to read up on what's up with Apple.

    I can read time as easily as my Nano. Good luck reading email , texts, etc on it. And have more fun picking at it constantly to open icons etc.

    You know you have no case here, and so you aren't even responding to my post. So, you are telling us that every watch manufacturer should not make a Micky Mouse face because some maker, far in the past, has already done it? Do you have any idea as to how many watch makers have licensed Disney characters for watches? Several dozen, including some of the most expensive makers of watches.. You really are trolling, aren't you?

  • Reply 78 of 174
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,979member

    Oh, I couldn't pass these by.

     

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    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member

  • Reply 80 of 174
    wigbywigby Posts: 692member
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    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post





    Most watches have hands- period.

    I refuse to read on a 1 1/2" screen when I have a 4" screen in my pocket.

    So anyone who's not into the iWatch is a troll? Rich.



    So you avert your eyes every time you look at the time on your phone? No hands.

     

    I think you're stepping into a grey area as far as screen size. Is 1.5" too small for pictures? probably. Is it too small for long emails or texts? probably. Is it too small for webpages? probably. But Apple didn't demonstrate those (except for pics which seemed silly) things. Instead they demonstrated short messages, taps, map directions, simple finger drawings and a honeycomb of apps icons that get larger as they move to the center. Those all seem like smart design choices. They are too simple for me to bother pulling out my phone for but still communication and information I would like to interact with. So the Apple Watch will never become our primary device of communication because it's not designed to be. It's designed to fill in the gaps where an iPhone is too much and nothing is too little.

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