Went to a coffee shop just yesterday that refuses $100.00 bills. I asked about it and they said they got burned once with a counterfeit bill. Don't how legal it is though, since its supposed to be legal tender for all transactions, public and private!
I see many places that won't accept a $50 bill and up.
Not sharing your credit card number in no way prevents the retailer tracking you as a customer. You're confusing the two and assuming that one prevents the other.
Example: If you have a Walgreen's iOS app on your phone, or I believe any other iBeacon-compatible app that might use the same backend provider, then Walgreens has the capability of personalizing an offer or ad just for you as soon as you enter the store, follow you thru the aisles while noting wherever you stop and for how long to help determine interests, and find out for certain if that targeted ad resulted in a sale. Default iAds, default bluetooth, iBeacons, compatible apps that no longer need to be open to receive offers, and loyalty programs are all connected. Apple has really done a great job in thinking everything thru. ApplePay completes it.
iPhone users can turn off tracking on individual apps, settings > privacy>locations settings
so if user doesn't have app installed or turns tacking off everything is fine
retailers has capability yes, control no
Personally I turn bluetooth off at all times (which completely stops all iBeacons tracking, in case I inadvertantly forgot to turn off it by individual app) except when I'm at home because I have an app to contol my wireless Harmon Kardon speakers, not having bluetooth turned on while I'm out and about saves battery life too.
Turning blue tooth on and off is easy now I can swipe up from the bottom of the screen and hit the bluetooth icon (same with wifi,another battery drainer)
Have you noticed that Apple helpfully turns bluetooth back on with iOS updates, over-riding your settings if you've "inadvertently" turned it off? It's fairly clear that Apple wants bluetooth on, noting of course that most users don't change settings leaving them at whatever default Apple set to begin with.
Yes, I've noticed that.
Another bug still not fixed from iOS 7 is that apps that are downloaded or updated can override your privacy settings for Background Refresh. Ie, if you have Background Refresh set to Don't Allow, apps can still turn it on. You have to then manually turn it back off.
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Have you noticed that Apple helpfully <i>turns bluetooth back on with iOS updates</i>, over-riding your settings if you've "inadvertently" turned it off? It's fairly clear that Apple wants bluetooth on, noting of course that most users don't change settings leaving them at whatever default Apple set to begin with.</div></div><p> </p>
I suspect you are a TROLL, you are indeed talking nonsense now, thats a reach even for you
That you didn't notice doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But I encourage you to confirm it for yourself. Start with a search using your favorite browser:
iOS update turns bluetooth on
Have you noticed that Apple helpfully turns bluetooth back on with iOS updates, over-riding your settings if you've "inadvertently" turned it off? It's fairly clear that Apple wants bluetooth on, noting of course that most users don't change settings leaving them at whatever default Apple set to begin with.
I haven't noticed that because I use it, but it might not be a sinister act. It could be something that requires BT to be activated as part of the upgrade process and Apple overlooking that some users want it off by default.
One thing I have noticed is that after every iOS update I have to go into Messages to change my sending "address" from my iPhone's phone number to my email address. Frankly, I don't want people to know my phone number buy many people I do message now have it simply because I didn't notice this default change. There are plenty of other things that seem like glaring oversights with simple solutions with Apple's SW development, but I mention that one because I'd think Apple would want their iCloud email address used more frequently so I'd assume if it was deliberate for marketing reasons it would make more sense to push iCloud.
Have you noticed that Apple helpfully turns bluetooth back on with iOS updates, over-riding your settings if you've "inadvertently" turned it off? It's fairly clear that Apple wants bluetooth on, noting of course that most users don't change settings leaving them at whatever default Apple set to begin with.
I haven't noticed that because I use it, but it might not be a sinister act. It could be something that requires BT to be activated as part of the upgrade process and Apple overlooking that some users want it off by default.
One thing I have noticed is that after every iOS update I have to go into Messages to change my sending "address" from my iPhone's phone number to my email address. Frankly, I don't want people to know my phone number buy many people I do message now have it simply because I didn't notice this default change. There are plenty of other things that seem like glaring oversights with simple solutions with Apple's SW development, but I mention that one because I'd think Apple would want their iCloud email address used more frequently so I'd assume if it was deliberate for marketing reasons it would make more sense to push iCloud.
That's funny.
I used to have to do that in Messages, too, but I didn't with iOS 8 or 8.1. It finally remembered the default I had set.
I haven't noticed that because I use it, but it might not be a sinister act. It could be something that requires BT to be activated as part of the upgrade process and Apple overlooking that some users want it off by default.
Soli, I'm not at all saying there's anything sinister about it. IMO it's not an oversight either. Apple has business reasons for wanting bluetooth enabled, not the least of which would be iBeacons and retailer apps. Nothing wrong with it, tho it's better that users were aware of it.
I used to have to do that in Messages, too, but I didn't with iOS 8 or 8.1. It finally remembered the default I had set.
1) I didn't notice that but I also can't recall changing back this time. I'll look for it next time.
2) It would also change iMessages on the Mac to the phone number. Personally, I don't even want my phone number as an option but that's the one "address" you can't unselect.
Soli, I'm not at all saying there's anything sinister about it. IMO it's not an oversight either. Apple has business reasons for wanting bluetooth enabled, not the least of which would be iBeacons and retailer apps. Nothing wrong with it, tho it's better that users were aware of it.
If they know people are disabling on purpose, regardless of whether it's battery life, security, or some other reason, and they purposely turning it back in just to get people to use BT then I would call that sinister.
I'm sorry but this is exactly why iPhone users get such a bad reputation. It's a phone, not your identity. You let this thing decide every decision in your life like it's the most important part of your life. It's a phone.
I have about 6 devices I use as phones, and I seem to pick up new ones about every 3 months. I use Skype, I have a skype phone number, so all my devices have cellular turned off. I even have a hotspot on my keychain for when I feel like using a mini tablet or a locked phone I bought on the cheap in airplane mode with wifi on, and yes even iPhones (there cheap when people don't pay there bill).
Point I'm trying to make is all the devices I won have benefits, and some days some of those benefits are more valuable than others. But despite my ability to literally take any device with me anytime I have never once thought to dictate my life, shopping habits, or anything around the device in my pocket. It's insane.
Android is easier to manage music on, so it's my music day device. iPad mini is great for games so it's my weekend phone. etc...
Uh what? Google Android users are angry about this too.
But nice try at taking cheap shots at the Apple community.
The "I have an unbiased perspective because I enjoy all 20 of my smartphones and I use Mac PC and Linux so I can sit on high and judge you all as idiots" meme isn't new around here.
And it's just as absurd to have this mentality about your phone.
You are intentionally making your life moreo difficult for no reason other than to act out the exact stigma iPhone owners have.
You keep saying phone phone phone!
Pay attention. It's not about a phone. It's not about Apple. MCX is taking a hard line on all NFC payment options because they want to prop up CurrentC. This affects all NFC payment options, including Google Wallet and PayWave.
You are projecting your own biases ("stigma") about Apple users onto these forums.
edit: I think the confusion comes into play regarding a statement about settling debts, but remember a company has the right to refuse you business which would mean you're not indebted to them. So if, for example, you go into a coffee shop, they make you a latte and you want to pay with a $100 bill they can simply choose to not sell you that drink.
If you've already consumed however they are obliged to take the legal tender if it's all you got.
Do forgive me for buying what i like and liking what i buy, and for trying to use it and enjoy it as much as i can.
When i buy something i make sure is something i am going to enjoy. When some mother...ker tries to dictate how i am suppose to use my shit or spend my money they can go **** them self.
Blocking your competitors is not competition.
I only need one good device Not ten cheap ones. And what i have notice is that they dont hate iphone user, they hate how much we enjoy our iphones. Apparently other phone are not as easy to enjoy! And every time i or one of my friends sell an old iphone is usually to somebody who "hates iphone users" ironic ah?
You keep saying phone phone phone!
Pay attention. It's not about a phone. It's not about Apple. MCX is taking a hard line on all NFC payment options because they want to prop up CurrentC. This affects all NFC payment options, including Google Wallet and PayWave.
You are projecting your own biases ("stigma") about Apple users onto these forums.
He is blinded by his own stupidity. Don't even bother!
Not sure what you added to my comment? Or were you replying to someone else in error?
That said, I can see Google seeing this issue as a way to at least have a chance at surviving against ?Pay and come to some agreement with the CurrentC system by being willing to share the data whereas Apple never will.
I was responding your statement that ".... whereas Apple never will". Your statement made it sound like Apple collects purchasing data with ApplePay, like Google and CurrentC, but will never share the data with others. I just wanted to point out that Apple has no data to share (with regards to ApplePay). Which is probably what you meant when you said ".....whereas Apple never will", but that's not perfectly clear the way it's stated.
How long until this gets hacked and they have all of our customer data? Or better yet.... wait until someone finds a way to make fake QR codes to scam them for a lot of money..... why would anyone want to use this?
It does all that Google Wallet and ApplePay do except that it doesn't use NFC and people don't like it.
It’s a shame that Apple didn't bypass the cards completely. That would have been a truly comprehensive revolution of the payment system, the sort of thing that Steve Jobs would have done. In my opinion, they should have created a new payment system that linked directly with your bank account and incurred no charges for either consumers and either minimal charges or none for merchants.
As it is, there is not a lot of incentive for merchants, because they still have significant card fees to pay.
hmm, so by you horrible guess at what jobs would have done (a man you've never met, let alone been in the same room as), we would have expected the iPhone to bypass the telecomm carriers, right? yeah but that didn't happen. so no reason to believe he would have eschewed one of the tentpoles of commerce -- credit cards.
as for merchant incentive -- i can't believe you can't figure it out (well, i can)...we're the incentive. the people with the money to spend on things. thats what incentivizes merchants to do things. every single time. dur durrr
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I see many places that won't accept a $50 bill and up.
Not sharing your credit card number in no way prevents the retailer tracking you as a customer. You're confusing the two and assuming that one prevents the other.
Example: If you have a Walgreen's iOS app on your phone, or I believe any other iBeacon-compatible app that might use the same backend provider, then Walgreens has the capability of personalizing an offer or ad just for you as soon as you enter the store, follow you thru the aisles while noting wherever you stop and for how long to help determine interests, and find out for certain if that targeted ad resulted in a sale. Default iAds, default bluetooth, iBeacons, compatible apps that no longer need to be open to receive offers, and loyalty programs are all connected. Apple has really done a great job in thinking everything thru. ApplePay completes it.
iPhone users can turn off tracking on individual apps, settings > privacy>locations settings
so if user doesn't have app installed or turns tacking off everything is fine
retailers has capability yes, control no
Personally I turn bluetooth off at all times (which completely stops all iBeacons tracking, in case I inadvertantly forgot to turn off it by individual app) except when I'm at home because I have an app to contol my wireless Harmon Kardon speakers, not having bluetooth turned on while I'm out and about saves battery life too.
Turning blue tooth on and off is easy now I can swipe up from the bottom of the screen and hit the bluetooth icon (same with wifi,another battery drainer)
Have you noticed that Apple helpfully turns bluetooth back on with iOS updates, over-riding your settings if you've "inadvertently" turned it off? It's fairly clear that Apple wants bluetooth on, noting of course that most users don't change settings leaving them at whatever default Apple set to begin with.
Yes, I've noticed that.
Another bug still not fixed from iOS 7 is that apps that are downloaded or updated can override your privacy settings for Background Refresh. Ie, if you have Background Refresh set to Don't Allow, apps can still turn it on. You have to then manually turn it back off.
That you didn't notice doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But I encourage you to confirm it for yourself. Start with a search using your favorite browser:
iOS update turns bluetooth on
I haven't noticed that because I use it, but it might not be a sinister act. It could be something that requires BT to be activated as part of the upgrade process and Apple overlooking that some users want it off by default.
One thing I have noticed is that after every iOS update I have to go into Messages to change my sending "address" from my iPhone's phone number to my email address. Frankly, I don't want people to know my phone number buy many people I do message now have it simply because I didn't notice this default change. There are plenty of other things that seem like glaring oversights with simple solutions with Apple's SW development, but I mention that one because I'd think Apple would want their iCloud email address used more frequently so I'd assume if it was deliberate for marketing reasons it would make more sense to push iCloud.
Have you noticed that Apple helpfully turns bluetooth back on with iOS updates, over-riding your settings if you've "inadvertently" turned it off? It's fairly clear that Apple wants bluetooth on, noting of course that most users don't change settings leaving them at whatever default Apple set to begin with.
I haven't noticed that because I use it, but it might not be a sinister act. It could be something that requires BT to be activated as part of the upgrade process and Apple overlooking that some users want it off by default.
One thing I have noticed is that after every iOS update I have to go into Messages to change my sending "address" from my iPhone's phone number to my email address. Frankly, I don't want people to know my phone number buy many people I do message now have it simply because I didn't notice this default change. There are plenty of other things that seem like glaring oversights with simple solutions with Apple's SW development, but I mention that one because I'd think Apple would want their iCloud email address used more frequently so I'd assume if it was deliberate for marketing reasons it would make more sense to push iCloud.
That's funny.
I used to have to do that in Messages, too, but I didn't with iOS 8 or 8.1. It finally remembered the default I had set.
Soli, I'm not at all saying there's anything sinister about it. IMO it's not an oversight either. Apple has business reasons for wanting bluetooth enabled, not the least of which would be iBeacons and retailer apps. Nothing wrong with it, tho it's better that users were aware of it.
1) I didn't notice that but I also can't recall changing back this time. I'll look for it next time.
2) It would also change iMessages on the Mac to the phone number. Personally, I don't even want my phone number as an option but that's the one "address" you can't unselect.
If they know people are disabling on purpose, regardless of whether it's battery life, security, or some other reason, and they purposely turning it back in just to get people to use BT then I would call that sinister.
Uh what? Google Android users are angry about this too.
But nice try at taking cheap shots at the Apple community.
The "I have an unbiased perspective because I enjoy all 20 of my smartphones and I use Mac PC and Linux so I can sit on high and judge you all as idiots" meme isn't new around here.
You keep saying phone phone phone!
Pay attention. It's not about a phone. It's not about Apple. MCX is taking a hard line on all NFC payment options because they want to prop up CurrentC. This affects all NFC payment options, including Google Wallet and PayWave.
You are projecting your own biases ("stigma") about Apple users onto these forums.
If you've already consumed however they are obliged to take the legal tender if it's all you got.
When i buy something i make sure is something i am going to enjoy. When some mother...ker tries to dictate how i am suppose to use my shit or spend my money they can go **** them self.
Blocking your competitors is not competition.
I only need one good device Not ten cheap ones. And what i have notice is that they dont hate iphone user, they hate how much we enjoy our iphones. Apparently other phone are not as easy to enjoy! And every time i or one of my friends sell an old iphone is usually to somebody who "hates iphone users" ironic ah?
He is blinded by his own stupidity. Don't even bother!
Given that we don’t, keep your delusions to yourself.
I think this is a big mistake on the part of CVS and RiteAide.
Who do we write to or petition to complain?
The retailers who are fighting this are not doing what is in the best interest of consumers!
Any comments and constructive suggestions are appreciated!
Alan
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
I'm sorry but this is exactly why iPhone users get such a bad reputation.
Given that we don’t, keep your delusions to yourself.
It's a Fandroid fantasy about iPhone users. Makes them feel good about themselves.
Verifone is now encouraging it's merchants to turn on NFC payments.
Now that's true innovation¡
Not sure what you added to my comment? Or were you replying to someone else in error?
It does all that Google Wallet and ApplePay do except that it doesn't use NFC and people don't like it.
It’s a shame that Apple didn't bypass the cards completely. That would have been a truly comprehensive revolution of the payment system, the sort of thing that Steve Jobs would have done. In my opinion, they should have created a new payment system that linked directly with your bank account and incurred no charges for either consumers and either minimal charges or none for merchants.
As it is, there is not a lot of incentive for merchants, because they still have significant card fees to pay.
hmm, so by you horrible guess at what jobs would have done (a man you've never met, let alone been in the same room as), we would have expected the iPhone to bypass the telecomm carriers, right? yeah but that didn't happen. so no reason to believe he would have eschewed one of the tentpoles of commerce -- credit cards.
as for merchant incentive -- i can't believe you can't figure it out (well, i can)...we're the incentive. the people with the money to spend on things. thats what incentivizes merchants to do things. every single time. dur durrr