I know we the battery wouldn't last more than 2 days. Apple can't break the laws of physics. A lot of people were saying that the Apple Watch would last longer than all others on the market. Not so much.
Sad. Whoever wrote that this is Apple's Edsel wasn't far off. I can't imagine anyone wanting this after that remark. Not only is it unattractive but needs to be charged daily? :no:
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/183085/apple-watch-will-likely-require-daily-charging-cook-says#post_2628473" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span><div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>TheWhiteFalcon</strong> <a href="/t/183085/apple-watch-will-likely-require-daily-charging-cook-says#post_2628473"><img src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" class="inlineimg" alt="View Post"/></a><br/><br/>The only disappointing element in that is that you won't be able to use it as a sleep tracker, but given its cost I'm not sure I would have anyway. That being said, I charge my iPhone and iPad nightly, so why not add a third device?</div></div><p> </p>
If they could get it to charge in 15-20 mins maybe you could take it off before taking a shower to charge it.
Google nexus 6 phone can get 6 hours with a 15 min charge time (has a 3,200 mAh battery)
How about a massive induction charger on the wall of the shower, so powerful it works while you wear it in the shower ?
What you don't want is a battery that only lasts part of the day, and then you get a lot of people walking around at 4 or 5pm with these dead Apple Watches on their wrists, and it becomes like a running gag about the Apple Watch, with stand up comedians joking about everyone having a dead watch. Most people sleep 7-8 hours so the battery life should be 16 or 17.
The only disappointing element in that is that you won't be able to use it as a sleep tracker, but given its cost I'm not sure I would have anyway. That being said, I charge my iPhone and iPad nightly, so why not add a third device?
I know we the battery wouldn't last more than 2 days. Apple can't break the laws of physics. A lot of people were saying that the Apple Watch would last longer than all others on the market. Not so much.
The present limitations on battery life are not governed by the laws of physics - simply by the constraints of existing technology on power usage and battery energy density. Neither are anywhere near the fundamental limits imposed by basic physics, and are continuously improving.
What you don't want is a battery that only lasts part of the day, and then you get a lot of people walking around at 4 or 5pm with these dead Apple Watches on their wrists, and it becomes like a running gag about the Apple Watch, with stand up comedians joking about everyone having a dead watch. Most people sleep 7-8 hours so the battery life should be 16 or 17.
Right. But it actually need to have a battery life of something like 24-30 hours under normal/heavy usage fresh out of the box. That is, it should never run out of juice between nightly charges, even after a few years of service. Unfortunately my 13 month old 5s doesn't pass this test. If it barely lasts 18 hours brand new, then Apple has a problem. Based on Cook's comments, I think they'll be ok. Better to "sell" a watch that can sometimes go two days between charges as "should be charged daily." Under promise and over deliver.
Sad. Whoever wrote that this is Apple's Edsel wasn't far off. I can't imagine anyone wanting this after that remark. Not only is it unattractive but needs to be charged daily?
Someone save this comment. I expect that paz will forget he said this 2 years from now (unless against all odds he's actually right, of course).
A watch band where the surface was almost entirely solar cells might help. Mechanical systems deliver a lot less energy. A Citizen eco-drive watch can go more than 6 months on about an hour or so of exposure to direct sunlight. A Seiko Kinetic watch has to be shaken nearly every day. I had a conversation with an employee in a jewelers and he complained it was a chore to daily take the kinetics out of the window display and shake them for a while and then put them back, while the Citizens next to them just purred away smug in their superiority.
Yeah, in an earlier thread I had posted up the power level of Seiko's Kinetic generator. Not only does it require shaking with the current watch, the power draw of the Apple Watch is probably going to be 100x or 1000x as much as a conventional watch.
The present limitations on battery life are not governed by the laws of physics - simply by the constraints of existing technology on power usage and battery energy density. Neither are anywhere near the fundamental limits imposed by basic physics, and are continuously improving.
Someone save this comment. I expect that paz will forget he said this 2 years from now (unless against all odds he's actually right, of course).
No I won't. Because unless it miraculously morphs into something streamlined and Apple-like I stand by my remarks. Also remember the Edsel remark was not mine.
Right. But it actually need to have a battery life of something like 24-30 hours under normal/heavy usage fresh out of the box. That is, it should never run out of juice between nightly charges, even after a few years of service. Unfortunately my 13 month old 5s doesn't pass this test. If it barely lasts 18 hours brand new, then Apple has a problem. Based on Cook's comments, I think they'll be ok. Better to "sell" a watch that can sometimes go two days between charges as "should be charged daily." Under promise and over deliver.
Err on the caution side like Chris Christie and his Ebola tents?
How about a massive induction charger on the wall of the shower, so powerful it works while you wear it in the shower ?
Or... even safer ... I remember in high school they told us that if you move a magnet near a coil of wire it induces an electrical current in the wire.
So if the Apple watch strap was a coil, and you injected your bloodstream with milllions of tiny magnets, then your blood pumping through your wrist would constantly charge the watch.
The present limitations on battery life are not governed by the laws of physics - simply by the constraints of existing technology on power usage and battery energy density. Neither are anywhere near the fundamental limits imposed by basic physics, and are continuously improving.
Continuously improving linearly is not enough. We're stagnating again, waiting for the next big advancement.
I don't necessarily expect the ?Watch to be the monumental success of iPhone but the original poster's comment is absurd.
Nothing will ever be as successful as iPhone. If ?Watch success is based on whether it is as successful as the iPhone then it's doomed before it comes out.
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How about a massive induction charger on the wall of the shower, so powerful it works while you wear it in the shower ?
What you don't want is a battery that only lasts part of the day, and then you get a lot of people walking around at 4 or 5pm with these dead Apple Watches on their wrists, and it becomes like a running gag about the Apple Watch, with stand up comedians joking about everyone having a dead watch. Most people sleep 7-8 hours so the battery life should be 16 or 17.
Global warming?
The present limitations on battery life are not governed by the laws of physics - simply by the constraints of existing technology on power usage and battery energy density. Neither are anywhere near the fundamental limits imposed by basic physics, and are continuously improving.
What you don't want is a battery that only lasts part of the day, and then you get a lot of people walking around at 4 or 5pm with these dead Apple Watches on their wrists, and it becomes like a running gag about the Apple Watch, with stand up comedians joking about everyone having a dead watch. Most people sleep 7-8 hours so the battery life should be 16 or 17.
Right. But it actually need to have a battery life of something like 24-30 hours under normal/heavy usage fresh out of the box. That is, it should never run out of juice between nightly charges, even after a few years of service. Unfortunately my 13 month old 5s doesn't pass this test. If it barely lasts 18 hours brand new, then Apple has a problem. Based on Cook's comments, I think they'll be ok. Better to "sell" a watch that can sometimes go two days between charges as "should be charged daily." Under promise and over deliver.
Sad. Whoever wrote that this is Apple's Edsel wasn't far off. I can't imagine anyone wanting this after that remark. Not only is it unattractive but needs to be charged daily?
Someone save this comment. I expect that paz will forget he said this 2 years from now (unless against all odds he's actually right, of course).
A watch band where the surface was almost entirely solar cells might help. Mechanical systems deliver a lot less energy. A Citizen eco-drive watch can go more than 6 months on about an hour or so of exposure to direct sunlight. A Seiko Kinetic watch has to be shaken nearly every day. I had a conversation with an employee in a jewelers and he complained it was a chore to daily take the kinetics out of the window display and shake them for a while and then put them back, while the Citizens next to them just purred away smug in their superiority.
Yeah, in an earlier thread I had posted up the power level of Seiko's Kinetic generator. Not only does it require shaking with the current watch, the power draw of the Apple Watch is probably going to be 100x or 1000x as much as a conventional watch.
It has everything to do with physics. For a refresher: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics
No I won't. Because unless it miraculously morphs into something streamlined and Apple-like I stand by my remarks. Also remember the Edsel remark was not mine.
Err on the caution side like Chris Christie and his Ebola tents?
[URL=http://www.cnet.com/news/new-batteries-charge-70-percent-in-2-minutes/]New batteries charge 70 percent in 2 minutes[/URL]
How about a massive induction charger on the wall of the shower, so powerful it works while you wear it in the shower ?
Or... even safer ... I remember in high school they told us that if you move a magnet near a coil of wire it induces an electrical current in the wire.
So if the Apple watch strap was a coil, and you injected your bloodstream with milllions of tiny magnets, then your blood pumping through your wrist would constantly charge the watch.
The present limitations on battery life are not governed by the laws of physics - simply by the constraints of existing technology on power usage and battery energy density. Neither are anywhere near the fundamental limits imposed by basic physics, and are continuously improving.
Continuously improving linearly is not enough. We're stagnating again, waiting for the next big advancement.
Li-ion:
I don't necessarily expect the ?Watch to be the monumental success of iPhone but the original poster's comment is absurd.
Continuously improving linearly is not enough. We're stagnating again, waiting for the next big advancement.
Li-ion:
Is there any data for '06 to '14? What if there were significant improvements in those years?