If a drunk falls down and then says he meant to fall down because he was too far from the ground to start with, is it not a fall?
So are you admitting you've no idea of the purpose behind the Nexus line, disconnected from the obvious? I find that pretty doubtful as in touch with tech news as you are. It matters not if some few Nexus fans think they've sold untold millions of 'em. What do YOU think the purpose of the Nexus line is? They never have the best displays available, nor the best and most extensive storage options, nor the most intriguing or creative designs. Google even spreads the builds around to different licensees. Sure looks like a sample hardware platform intended for a new version of Android to me. What about you?
LOL. Extremetech. That lame article of theirs STILL gets referenced regularly by the trolls even though it was written after the A7 announcement and BEFORE anyone actually used it.
That all depends on if you believe's Google's inference that they don't want the Nexus line of products to be a market success. I think that's BS, but I wouldn't call myself partisan on this issue as I recently said something similar about Cook's comments regarding the hiding of the ?Watch in the accessories category.
If Google built a premium handset with the best available display, a wide range of storage options, unique design and a multitude of color options then I'd be right there with you claiming BS. They don't. They always handicap them with a single color or two, limited storage, no SD, no extended batteries, fairly utilitarian design, and good rather than outstanding displays. Their only claim to fame is decent hardware, stock Android and fast updates. The good stuff is left for the licensees to roll out.
You seem to be, but I'm not able to read your mind. Maybe you're just nervous about the software that they bring in tow. Lollipop appears to be poised to finally put Android on equal footing with iOS as far as polish goes. Considering the fact that a large number of iOS users attribute their choice to use iPhones to the polish and predictable performance of the software, I would imagine you might be nervous that iOS's one untouchable distinction might vanish. Thus, without any leg to stand on when criticizing the OS (the lates version anyway), you turn to the devices themselves and compare them in performance benchmarks, which you've always criticized as being unrelated to real usage.
Have you actually seen Lollypop?
It's minor software update with a slightly different appearance that's just enough to make existing apps look like they don't fit. Also, it's unlikely that a new rev of Android will turn around the collapse of Samsung, anymore than a new version of Windows could turn around HP or Dell's PC business. And Samsung is more than half of Android world wide.
Android 5.0 will be unlikely to reach more than 20% of even active Google Play users by the time iOS 9 ships next year. And according to Android Enthusiasts, Android has been on an "equal footing" with iOS for years, even as its market share has peaked and its share of premium devices has stagnated. How will another new version entice Android users to buy more Android products at higher prices than the bargain Moto X and Nexus 5 of last year? Seriously, do you even believe that?
Also, please cite any examples of having "always criticized [performance benchmarks] as being unrelated to real usage." That's just not true at all.
If a drunk falls down and then says he meant to fall down because he was too far from the ground to start with, is it not a fall?
But two things: first off, Android Enthusiasts predicted strong Nexus sales and continued to think that Nexus devices were not flops after many generation of Nexus flops. I've interviewed lots of Nexus owners, and virtually all of them think that the products sold well.
But now that it is getting impossible to say that Nexus launches have ever been anything other that wildly underachieving flops, Android Enthusiasts are backtracking to say that nothing Google does is ever a flop because the company is just spending billions of dollars trying to show third rate, incompetent hardware makers how they should be making great Android products.
It's like of like communists who say that communism isn't a flop, it's just a wonderful idea that has never been implemented correctly. How many years of failed attempts does it take to prove something is a failure?
Also, if you fact check yourself against reality, you'll find that ever since the first Google Nexus One, the company positioned Nexus as being "a new way to buy a phone," not a way to fail commercially or to not compete with licensees. Also, was Motorola also not "meant to compete with licensees nor to be commercial success"? Because, come on, that's just too much to swallow.
Now turn around and consider how vocal the same Android Enthusiasts were about Apple Maps and iPhone 5c being "flops," even though both have been wildly successful. Just ask Google, which has lost most of its iOS Maps user base and then lost a couple billion dollars trying to compete with Apple's low end phone with its own, unprofitable Moto X flop.
Really, your interlocking circles of logical fallacies are such incredible bullshit that it's hard to even comprehend how you can spew this stuff without hiding behind a phony identity. Oh wait never mind.
NAILED IT. /suppressing urge to add Hank Moody's wonderful cry ... M****R F****R [see Netflix Californication if you don't know Hank)
So do you happen know who our resident Google person really is perchance?
So are you admitting you've no idea of the purpose behind the Nexus line, disconnected from the obvious? I find that pretty doubtful as in touch with tech news as you are. It matters not if some few Nexus fans think they've sold untold millions of 'em. What do YOU think the purpose of the Nexus line is? They never have the best displays available, nor the best and most extensive storage options, nor the most intriguing or creative designs. Google even spreads the builds around to different licensees. Sure looks like a sample hardware platform intended for a new version of Android to me. What about you?
Be honest, it doesn't hurt.
I linked to Google's own webpage detailing what Nexus was. If you don't accept that, then no amount of facts or logic are going to extract your head from your rectum.
And I'm sorry, what motivates you to erect such sham piles of garbage? There isn't one Android fan on Earth that will hesitate to say Nexus is the best Android experience and best phone to buy. It's the only one that gets any modicum of update support (at least for the first year and a half), and it targets exactly what Google thinks will sell. It's just been wrong every time.
I linked to Google's own webpage detailing what Nexus was. If you don't accept that, then no amount of facts or logic are going to extract your head from your rectum.
So you honestly don't have a clue as to the purpose, and/or have no intention of saying what YOU think the Nexus line is intended to accomplish..
To help clear up your confusion here's what Google says about it, tho I'm pretty sure you already knew but trying your best to avoid admitting as much.
"Advances in computing are driven at the intersection of hardware and software. That's why we’ve always introduced Nexus devices alongside our platform releases. Rather than creating software in the abstract, we work with hardware partners to build Nexus devices to help push the boundaries of what's possible. Nexus devices also serve as a reference for the ecosystem as they develop on our newest release."
Really? What Continuity and Handoff features has Google built for Mac OS X, Windows and Linux desktop so that you can seamless switch between devices?
HA! Seriously though, you'll have show me what you mean by this Android sensibility that exceeds iOS.
You're talking about integration rather than the structure and operation of the UI itself. But regardless, Android already had similar functionality before Apple put catchy names on cloud syncing. Gmail drafts, Google Docs in progress, open tabs in Chrome, IM conversations, Drive storage, music playlists (though not the current track), and notifications for some apps (when using Chrome as your desktop browser) have been synced via the cloud for anywhere between months and years.
Just another A on Apple's report card. I have always admired this companies thinking. Things that most companies just don't pay attention to.
On a separate note, if Apple could just get some mainstream games ported over they could take their gaming presence to a whole new level. Although it may never happen I would love to see Nintendo games make their way to an iPad...
I would also like to see someone bring all of the console classics to the iPad...I am dreaming....again...
It's minor software update with a slightly different appearance that's just enough to make existing apps look like they don't fit. Also, it's unlikely that a new rev of Android will turn around the collapse of Samsung, anymore than a new version of Windows could turn around HP or Dell's PC business. And Samsung is more than half of Android world wide.
Android 5.0 will be unlikely to reach more than 20% of even active Google Play users by the time iOS 9 ships next year. And according to Android Enthusiasts, Android has been on an "equal footing" with iOS for years, even as its market share has peaked and its share of premium devices has stagnated. How will another new version entice Android users to buy more Android products at higher prices than the bargain Moto X and Nexus 5 of last year? Seriously, do you even believe that?
Also, please cite any examples of having "always criticized [<span style="line-height:22.399999618530273px;">performance benchmarks] </span>
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">as being unrelated to real usage." That's just not true at all.</span>
I'm at work now but I'll respond to this later. For now I'll just say that the OS has been revamped at low levels and includes a new runtime. But those must surely be the stylistic changes you've referred to...
NAILED IT. /suppressing urge to add Hank Moody's wonderful cry ... M****R F****R
So do you happen know who our resident Google person really is perchance?
If it's important for you to know I'll be happy to share a few details with you via email. I'm no insider. I'd even meet you for coffee, I'm fairly close by to you several times a month. Like you I don't typically share highly personal information on public forums. . . nor even with Google.
well, i know who Corrections really is. who are you?
We all think we do but he's never admitted as much, even referring to DED in the third person as tho he is not who we're assuming he is. There's folks here that I trust who know who I am including mods and former mods.
If it's important for you to know I'll be happy to share a few details with you via email. I'm no insider. I'd even meet you for coffee, I'm fairly close by to you several times a month. Like you I don't typically share highly personal information on public forums. . . nor even with Google.
We all think we do but he's never admitted as much, even referring to DED in the third person as tho he is not who we're assuming he is. There's folks here that I trust who know who I am including mods and former mods.
no, i meant do you have multiple ID's you post under?
of course Corrections/ Prince Mclean = DED. that's been utterly obvious for years.
no, i meant do you have multiple ID's you post under?
of course Corrections/ Prince Mclean = DED. that's been utterly obvious for years.
If I did do you think the mods would overlook it? On the contrary I use the exact same name, and have for years on every site I frequent, or Gatorguy2 if someone has already registered the name.
If I did do you think the mods would overlook it? On the contrary I use the exact same name, and have for years on every site I frequent, or Gatorguy2 if someone has already registered the name.
Lightbulb goes on ... Gator ... Florida ... duh...
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So are you admitting you've no idea of the purpose behind the Nexus line, disconnected from the obvious? I find that pretty doubtful as in touch with tech news as you are. It matters not if some few Nexus fans think they've sold untold millions of 'em. What do YOU think the purpose of the Nexus line is? They never have the best displays available, nor the best and most extensive storage options, nor the most intriguing or creative designs. Google even spreads the builds around to different licensees. Sure looks like a sample hardware platform intended for a new version of Android to me. What about you?
Be honest, it doesn't hurt.
If Google built a premium handset with the best available display, a wide range of storage options, unique design and a multitude of color options then I'd be right there with you claiming BS. They don't. They always handicap them with a single color or two, limited storage, no SD, no extended batteries, fairly utilitarian design, and good rather than outstanding displays. Their only claim to fame is decent hardware, stock Android and fast updates. The good stuff is left for the licensees to roll out.
You seem to be, but I'm not able to read your mind. Maybe you're just nervous about the software that they bring in tow. Lollipop appears to be poised to finally put Android on equal footing with iOS as far as polish goes. Considering the fact that a large number of iOS users attribute their choice to use iPhones to the polish and predictable performance of the software, I would imagine you might be nervous that iOS's one untouchable distinction might vanish. Thus, without any leg to stand on when criticizing the OS (the lates version anyway), you turn to the devices themselves and compare them in performance benchmarks, which you've always criticized as being unrelated to real usage.
Have you actually seen Lollypop?
It's minor software update with a slightly different appearance that's just enough to make existing apps look like they don't fit. Also, it's unlikely that a new rev of Android will turn around the collapse of Samsung, anymore than a new version of Windows could turn around HP or Dell's PC business. And Samsung is more than half of Android world wide.
Android 5.0 will be unlikely to reach more than 20% of even active Google Play users by the time iOS 9 ships next year. And according to Android Enthusiasts, Android has been on an "equal footing" with iOS for years, even as its market share has peaked and its share of premium devices has stagnated. How will another new version entice Android users to buy more Android products at higher prices than the bargain Moto X and Nexus 5 of last year? Seriously, do you even believe that?
Also, please cite any examples of having "always criticized [performance benchmarks] as being unrelated to real usage." That's just not true at all.
NAILED IT.
So do you happen know who our resident Google person really is perchance?
So are you admitting you've no idea of the purpose behind the Nexus line, disconnected from the obvious? I find that pretty doubtful as in touch with tech news as you are. It matters not if some few Nexus fans think they've sold untold millions of 'em. What do YOU think the purpose of the Nexus line is? They never have the best displays available, nor the best and most extensive storage options, nor the most intriguing or creative designs. Google even spreads the builds around to different licensees. Sure looks like a sample hardware platform intended for a new version of Android to me. What about you?
Be honest, it doesn't hurt.
I linked to Google's own webpage detailing what Nexus was. If you don't accept that, then no amount of facts or logic are going to extract your head from your rectum.
And I'm sorry, what motivates you to erect such sham piles of garbage? There isn't one Android fan on Earth that will hesitate to say Nexus is the best Android experience and best phone to buy. It's the only one that gets any modicum of update support (at least for the first year and a half), and it targets exactly what Google thinks will sell. It's just been wrong every time.
2010
Nexus One: Flop
2011
Nexus S: Flop
2012
Galaxy Nexus: Flop
Nexus 7: Flop
Nexus Q: Flop
2013
Nexus 4: Flop
Nexus 5: Flop
Nexus 7: Flop again
Oh hey, we weren't even trying!
So you honestly don't have a clue as to the purpose, and/or have no intention of saying what YOU think the Nexus line is intended to accomplish..
To help clear up your confusion here's what Google says about it, tho I'm pretty sure you already knew but trying your best to avoid admitting as much.
"Advances in computing are driven at the intersection of hardware and software. That's why we’ve always introduced Nexus devices alongside our platform releases. Rather than creating software in the abstract, we work with hardware partners to build Nexus devices to help push the boundaries of what's possible. Nexus devices also serve as a reference for the ecosystem as they develop on our newest release."
You're talking about integration rather than the structure and operation of the UI itself. But regardless, Android already had similar functionality before Apple put catchy names on cloud syncing. Gmail drafts, Google Docs in progress, open tabs in Chrome, IM conversations, Drive storage, music playlists (though not the current track), and notifications for some apps (when using Chrome as your desktop browser) have been synced via the cloud for anywhere between months and years.
On a separate note, if Apple could just get some mainstream games ported over they could take their gaming presence to a whole new level. Although it may never happen I would love to see Nintendo games make their way to an iPad...
I would also like to see someone bring all of the console classics to the iPad...I am dreaming....again...
I'm at work now but I'll respond to this later. For now I'll just say that the OS has been revamped at low levels and includes a new runtime. But those must surely be the stylistic changes you've referred to...
IPAD air2 has a lower ppi than both the Shield and the Iphone 6 plus.
If it's important for you to know I'll be happy to share a few details with you via email. I'm no insider. I'd even meet you for coffee, I'm fairly close by to you several times a month. Like you I don't typically share highly personal information on public forums. . . nor even with Google.
By the way, I must be off your ignore list again.
Pot... Kettle. LOL
well, i know who Corrections really is. who are you?
We all think we do but he's never admitted as much, even referring to DED in the third person as tho he is not who we're assuming he is. There's folks here that I trust who know who I am including mods and former mods.
How big are you?
Never were on it ... too entertaining to miss.
We all think we do but he's never admitted as much, even referring to DED in the third person as tho he is not who we're assuming he is. There's folks here that I trust who know who I am including mods and former mods.
no, i meant do you have multiple ID's you post under?
of course Corrections/ Prince Mclean = DED. that's been utterly obvious for years.
If I did do you think the mods would overlook it? On the contrary I use the exact same name, and have for years on every site I frequent, or Gatorguy2 if someone has already registered the name.
Is that on a dating questionnaire?
(Just kidding around of course...)
Lightbulb goes on ... Gator ... Florida ... duh...