G&T! OMG Soli, ... The Drink Of England no less! ... Gin and Tonic ... already on my second ...
after several it is wine with dinner then brandy and a cigar ... ok not so much the last part these days alas.
1) I was expecting it to be a TV show. Game and Thrones?¡
2) Have you had a real Pimm's Cup. Pimm's No. 1 is a gin-based liquor but the Pimm's Cup is a marvelously involved drink that forces the bartender to put some effort into the preparation.
1) I was expecting it to be a TV show. Game and Thrones?¡
2) Have you had a real Pimm's Cup. Pimm's No. 1 is a gin-based liquor but the Pimm's Cup is a marvelously involved drink that forces the bartender to put some effort into the preparation.
1) I have yet to see 'G of T', it isn't on Netflix nor will it likely be, sadly. From what I've read it sounds like a show I'd enjoy (but then my tastes are pretty juvenile).
2) No but it sounds fun ... I will try that ASAP.
I have met few drinks I don't like. Jägermeister being a notable exception. Between the medicinal taste and memories of working at DRUPA (http://www.drupa.com) for weeks on end (torture 101) where I was plied with it in post daily after-work drink sessions by my wonderful German hosts ... and then commuting in the DRUPA rush hour ... it has bad memories for me.
If Google built a premium handset with the best available display, a wide range of storage options, unique design and a multitude of color options then I'd be right there with you claiming BS. They don't. They always handicap them with a single color or two, limited storage, no SD, no extended batteries, fairly utilitarian design, and good rather than outstanding displays. Their only claim to fame is decent hardware, stock Android and fast updates. The good stuff is left for the licensees to roll out.
Wait. A company known as Google, deliberately makes a product to fail. Are you sure you are not getting mixed up with Amazon here? I actually credited Google with more respect for their share holders, even though they are a low life bunch of IP stealing scum bags.
Wait. A company known as Google, deliberately makes a product to fail. Are you sure you are not getting mixed up with Amazon here? I actually credited Google with more respect for their share holders, even though they are a low life bunch of IP stealing scum bags.
How do they fail? Nexus devices do just what they're intended to do: Call attention to new Android features and functions in a high profile way while giving the licensees a reference hardware platform for the new OS. Pretty simple concept, and one that's worked out pretty successfully in calling attention to Android IMHO. Look at how much attention its received on an Apple-centric fan site.
How do they fail? Nexus devices do just what they're intended to do: Call attention to new Android features and functions in a high profile way while giving the licensees a reference hardware platform for the new OS. Pretty simple concept, and one that's worked out pretty successfully in calling attention to Android IMHO. Look at how much attention its received on an Apple-centric fan site.
Right That's called 'cooler meeting, brainwashing talking points'. Same tactic used by a certain faux news group.
Had any Google products actually succeeded you would still claim the same?
Mind you, I bet Microsoft will be seriously wondering if they can use the same tactic somehow to assuage their share holders' fears soon. "Of course we didn't want our mobile products to sell, we were wanting to bring attention to .... "Oh wait, I guess that analogy doesn't work. Google still has acolytes, the main one just posting a 60% drop in profit, but it at least it has them. Microsoft not so much these days. I give a point to Google there over Microsoft.
Right That's called 'cooler meeting, brainwashing talking points'. Same tactic used by a certain faux news group.
Nope, no news group. That's from Google themselves:
"Advances in computing are driven at the intersection of hardware and software. That's why we’ve always introduced Nexus devices alongside our platform releases. Rather than creating software in the abstract, we work with hardware partners to build Nexus devices to help push the boundaries of what's possible. Nexus devices also serve as a reference for the ecosystem as they develop on our newest release."
Nope, no news group. That's from Google themselves:
"Advances in computing are driven at the intersection of hardware and software. That's why we’ve always introduced Nexus devices alongside our platform releases. Rather than creating software in the abstract, we work with hardware partners to build Nexus devices to help push the boundaries of what's possible. Nexus devices also serve as a reference for the ecosystem as they develop on our newest release."
Now do you understand it?
Bla bla bla .... I understand when I see the pathetic blethering of a company that failed at something trying to excuse it with total BS. And you buy it? I don't understand why you care so much or try so hard on an Apple web site, desperately trying to make their case that... failing is good. Wouldn't you be happier sharing these cozy, if mythical farcical stories, with fellow enthusiasts on some Android site, rather than sounding like a complete 'silly person' here? You have really lost a lot of respect from me on this. You usually have more honesty. Google have a failed line of products they would have loved to have succeeded. Just like Jeff Bezos (and I love Amazon in general), Blackberry, Microsoft ... and so on. Apple is totally destroying all opposition, get used to it.
DED already nailed it, no need to reply. Just read his posts ten times and say, 'I understand master' ...
Bla bla bla .... I understand when I see the pathetic blethering of a company that failed at something trying to excuse it with total BS. And you buy it? .
Hey don't let silly facts get in the way like six years of Android OS versions, all introduced on reference hardware platforms in the Nexus program, or Google commentary on why Nexus models are used to intro a new OS. Nah, Google really wants to run all their licensees out of business and take over all the hardware for themselves. They've just failed to do so yet. Of course. :rolleyes:
Hey don't let silly facts get in the way like six years of Android OS versions, all introduced on reference hardware platforms in the Nexus program, or Google commentary on why Nexus models are used to intro a new OS. Nah, Google really wants to run all their licensees out of business and take over all the hardware for themselves. They've just failed to do so yet. Of course. :rolleyes:
Why is that not a possibility? MS has surely done that more than once, and I've nothing from Google that would keep them from doing so if there was a growing interest for purchasing the the Nexus that rivaled iDevice sales.
Honestly, this whole referential design thing makes no sense to me. Why have it at all? Aren't the OEMs the ones that can make the HW? Why can't Google just tell them what HW their OS was designed for and leave it at that?
You have really lost a lot of respect from me on this. You usually have more honesty.
No. He has always been dishonest. He is exceptionally committed to convincing everyone that the brown stains in Google's tighty whiteys is chocolate and disregards anything to the contrary.
Hey don't let silly facts get in the way like six years of Android OS versions, all introduced on reference hardware platforms in the Nexus program, or Google commentary on why Nexus models are used to intro a new OS. Nah, Google really wants to run all their licensees out of business and take over all the hardware for themselves. They've just failed to do so yet. Of course. :rolleyes:
Do Google supply a leaflet explaining that Nexus devices are just test dummies and should not be bought?
No. He has always been dishonest. He is exceptionally committed to convincing everyone that the brown stains in Google's tighty whiteys is chocolate and disregards anything to the contrary.
Honestly, this whole referential design thing makes no sense to me. Why have it at all? Aren't the OEMs the ones that can make the HW? Why can't Google just tell them what HW their OS was designed for and leave it at that?
Would that get the same kind of attention, just tell the public what it does and what improvements it offers and hope one of the licensees soon offers a device that satisfactorily demonstrates all of it? What licensee would that be, Samsung, who tries to hide Android as much as possible, even going so far as to replace key Google features with their own competing ones? Frankly surprised you don't see the logic of introducing a new OS on new hardware.
Would that get the same kind of attention, just tell the public what it does and what improvements it offers and hope one of the licensees soon offers a device that demonstrates it? What licensee would that be, Samsung, who tries to hide Android as much as possible, even going so far as to replace key Google features with their own competing ones? Frankly surprised you don't see the logic of introducing a new OS on new hardware.
Sure. People aren't playing with or buying Nexus to figure out about its features. They are likely reading about it. They have partners now that make their HW so they can use those same partners to demo their OS. What did MS do before it decided no one knew how to make a tablet? They sold their OS without making and selling a WinPC that competes with the OEMs.
No. He has always been dishonest. He is exceptionally committed to convincing everyone that the brown stains in Google's tighty whiteys is chocolate and disregards anything to the contrary.
Example? I realize it's probably a waste of time to ask as you've never offered an example of that dishonesty you claim I've so clearly demonstrated before, and I am trying to avoid responding to trollish comments. But I'll ask again anyway just for laughs.
EDIT: So two days later not even a single example. Figured as much, snipe and run away.. Typical
I really like the new iPad, it’s fast, beautiful screen, great apps, etc. I also really like gadgets that utilize the Nvidia K1 processor. I currently have a Jetson development board, a Lenovo ThinkVision 4K, touch monitor that has an embedded Nvidia K1 and I’m impatiently but with great anticipation waiting for the Nexus 9. Why, because so far every device that uses the K1 has been an open platform, meaning I can install alternative OS’s like Linux, specifically Nvidias development OS, the properly named; Linux4Tegra, based on Ubuntu 14.04. Then there is the fact that it is an extremely quick ARM CPU, regardless of comments made by members of this board, which I have to mind you, has most likely never used a device containing the K1, but still so confident in their resolve that they call it crap. Again why, well because some arbitrary benchmark shows that the Apple A8x is king of the hill which ego dictates, all other competing CPU’s are automatically labeled as inferior and crap.
No one questioned as to why the Nvidia Shield with the 32bit variant of the K1 managed to beat the A8x and 64Bit version of the K1 in this OpenGL tests. Even though the Nexus 9, has the same graphic card and a faster 64Bit CPU, something is defiantly off. So once I get mine I will immediately install Linux4Tegra and run some benchmarks of my one, particularly, encoding a large media file using CUDA and the 192 CUDA cores in the K1. I have zero doubt that the Nexus 9’s GPU performance will be on par if not faster than the Nvidia Shield or the Jetson Dev Board. In fact I would bet money on it. There is something wrong with either the drivers in Android or the GFX Benchmark app used was 32Bit. Regardless, as it stands now, the K1 is still incredibly quick.
Why am I so adamant in defending this chip? Well like I said before I have been using the K1 Jetson dev board since its release in April. It has been a fantastic platform to work on and learn about GPU computing. When I’m home, I actually use it as a normal development desktop machine, has a monitor, keyboard, mouse, external drive, the works. I am so fascinated with GPU computing, streaming processors and parallel computing. I have been using CUDA and Bionic the most as their the easiest technologies for me to utilize and implement a working application, it also means I can start dipping into other projects like Milky@home, PrimeGrid, Einstein@home, etc. as their CUDA based, OpenCL versions also exist for some. I have learned so much because of that little board, sure, yes, you can use OpenCL or another GPU eccentric platform/language but I got to tell, if you’re a newbie, it’s not going to very be easy in the beginning, especially starting to produce viable applications of you own, who knows though you’re probably a genius and if that is the case then I’m sorry I insulted your intelligence.
Anyway, using the Linux4Tegra OS that is freely available for download, not only comes pre-loaded with hundreds of apps, how to’s, example code, help manuals, etc. but if your like me and learn how to program by deconstructing other programmers code, ripping out snippets of code for your own means, then CUDA is a fantastic start as there is so much code and how-tos’ available that it will make you head spin. Not to mention it comes with a fantastic SDK called Vision Works Computer Vision ToolKit, spend a good day with it and you will be spewing code out faster than 13 year boy who found his daddy’s PlayBoys.
But why the Nexus 9 than Relic, it’s a tablet, well using just one example from the heap of things I have planned for it, imagine that you’re using Blender or Lightwave on your MacBook. Your all finished with your wire works and it’s time to render, wait time, an hour plus. I haven’t done this yet but it will be one of my priorities after I get the Nexus 9. Continued: No problem, I have my handy portable render box right here in my bag, you grab your Nexus 9, plug in a host cable and USB to Ethernet adapter, start up the tablet, but since it’s dual or even triple boot you choose Linux. Not just any Linux, a tiny custom stripped down version of Linux4Tegra specifically designed to start-up directly into a render program, still working out as to what render software I will be using but for the sake of continuing this fascinating example, we’ll use LuxRender, as it is free and compatible with ARM and of course using CUDA’s MPI to communicate, as it will also play an important part for connecting multiple devices with a Nvidia K1 into a cluster, parallel computing because you know you can never have too much power. Oh gosh, render wait time just went down to 20 minutes, yippie. I of course left out the exact specifics on how to connect your MacBook to the Nexus 9 but you get the picture. I’m currently doing this and a whole lot more on the Jetson K1.
I went into all of this to try and put a personal connection to this technology. Even though most of you will never do or even think of doing anything that I do, did that make sense. The Nvidia Denver K1 is a fantastic CPU and if you’d spent just a few minutes in the Nvidia development forums to see what people are doing/creating using this thing I believe your perceptions would change. The A8x is an absolute beast but for the time being all of that power is locked away into a single platform, a great platform, but locked away none the less. The k1 however is free to roam around and like I said at the beginning of my post, regardless of your silly need for Apple to always be on top, the K1 is still one of the fastest ARM chips available, only the A8x, and that’s because it has 3 cores vs. 2 as the K1 has, beats it. Look how many chips are beneath it though, a whole lot huh, so is it really junk, what’s going to happen in Q1 2015 when Nvidia releases its 4 core variant. What I’m trying to get at, did the K1 really need to be faster than the A8x to not to be called Junk.
I'm not talking to anyone person directly, please forgive the tone or content of this post. I have new med's that are effecting me profoundly.
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No silly, in case i wanted to punch you on the nose ... or vice versa of course ...
There aren't many posters on this forum whose identity isn't more known.
G&T?
G&T! OMG Soli, ... The Drink Of England no less! ... Gin and Tonic ... already on my second ...
after several it is wine with dinner then brandy and a cigar ... ok not so much the last part these days alas.
1) I was expecting it to be a TV show. Game and Thrones?¡
2) Have you had a real Pimm's Cup. Pimm's No. 1 is a gin-based liquor but the Pimm's Cup is a marvelously involved drink that forces the bartender to put some effort into the preparation.
1) I have yet to see 'G of T', it isn't on Netflix nor will it likely be, sadly. From what I've read it sounds like a show I'd enjoy (but then my tastes are pretty juvenile).
2) No but it sounds fun ...
I have met few drinks I don't like. Jägermeister being a notable exception. Between the medicinal taste and memories of working at DRUPA (http://www.drupa.com) for weeks on end (torture 101) where I was plied with it in post daily after-work drink sessions by my wonderful German hosts ... and then commuting in the DRUPA rush hour ... it has bad memories for me.
Wait. A company known as Google, deliberately makes a product to fail. Are you sure you are not getting mixed up with Amazon here? I actually credited Google with more respect for their share holders, even though they are a low life bunch of IP stealing scum bags.
Right
Had any Google products actually succeeded you would still claim the same?
Mind you, I bet Microsoft will be seriously wondering if they can use the same tactic somehow to assuage their share holders' fears soon. "Of course we didn't want our mobile products to sell, we were wanting to bring attention to .... "Oh wait, I guess that analogy doesn't work. Google still has acolytes, the main one just posting a 60% drop in profit, but it at least it has them. Microsoft not so much these days. I give a point to Google there over Microsoft.
Nope, no news group. That's from Google themselves:
"Advances in computing are driven at the intersection of hardware and software. That's why we’ve always introduced Nexus devices alongside our platform releases. Rather than creating software in the abstract, we work with hardware partners to build Nexus devices to help push the boundaries of what's possible. Nexus devices also serve as a reference for the ecosystem as they develop on our newest release."
Now do you understand it?
Bla bla bla .... I understand when I see the pathetic blethering of a company that failed at something trying to excuse it with total BS. And you buy it? I don't understand why you care so much or try so hard on an Apple web site, desperately trying to make their case that... failing is good. Wouldn't you be happier sharing these cozy, if
mythicalfarcical stories, with fellow enthusiasts on some Android site, rather than sounding like a complete 'silly person' here? You have really lost a lot of respect from me on this. You usually have more honesty. Google have a failed line of products they would have loved to have succeeded. Just like Jeff Bezos (and I love Amazon in general), Blackberry, Microsoft ... and so on. Apple is totally destroying all opposition, get used to it.DED already nailed it, no need to reply. Just read his posts ten times and say, 'I understand master' ...
Hey don't let silly facts get in the way like six years of Android OS versions, all introduced on reference hardware platforms in the Nexus program, or Google commentary on why Nexus models are used to intro a new OS. Nah, Google really wants to run all their licensees out of business and take over all the hardware for themselves. They've just failed to do so yet. Of course. :rolleyes:
Why is that not a possibility? MS has surely done that more than once, and I've nothing from Google that would keep them from doing so if there was a growing interest for purchasing the the Nexus that rivaled iDevice sales.
Honestly, this whole referential design thing makes no sense to me. Why have it at all? Aren't the OEMs the ones that can make the HW? Why can't Google just tell them what HW their OS was designed for and leave it at that?
No. He has always been dishonest. He is exceptionally committed to convincing everyone that the brown stains in Google's tighty whiteys is chocolate and disregards anything to the contrary.
Do Google supply a leaflet explaining that Nexus devices are just test dummies and should not be bought?
Does this look like a web site for a designed to fail product? https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
It actually looks exactly like Apple's web site ... but ... Oh gosh that's a surprise isn't it?
I like that, excellent allusion there.
edit: missed out that pesky 'l' in like!
Would that get the same kind of attention, just tell the public what it does and what improvements it offers and hope one of the licensees soon offers a device that satisfactorily demonstrates all of it? What licensee would that be, Samsung, who tries to hide Android as much as possible, even going so far as to replace key Google features with their own competing ones? Frankly surprised you don't see the logic of introducing a new OS on new hardware.
Sure. People aren't playing with or buying Nexus to figure out about its features. They are likely reading about it. They have partners now that make their HW so they can use those same partners to demo their OS. What did MS do before it decided no one knew how to make a tablet? They sold their OS without making and selling a WinPC that competes with the OEMs.
Example? I realize it's probably a waste of time to ask as you've never offered an example of that dishonesty you claim I've so clearly demonstrated before, and I am trying to avoid responding to trollish comments. But I'll ask again anyway just for laughs.
EDIT: So two days later not even a single example. Figured as much, snipe and run away.. Typical
I really like the new iPad, it’s fast, beautiful screen, great apps, etc. I also really like gadgets that utilize the Nvidia K1 processor. I currently have a Jetson development board, a Lenovo ThinkVision 4K, touch monitor that has an embedded Nvidia K1 and I’m impatiently but with great anticipation waiting for the Nexus 9. Why, because so far every device that uses the K1 has been an open platform, meaning I can install alternative OS’s like Linux, specifically Nvidias development OS, the properly named; Linux4Tegra, based on Ubuntu 14.04. Then there is the fact that it is an extremely quick ARM CPU, regardless of comments made by members of this board, which I have to mind you, has most likely never used a device containing the K1, but still so confident in their resolve that they call it crap. Again why, well because some arbitrary benchmark shows that the Apple A8x is king of the hill which ego dictates, all other competing CPU’s are automatically labeled as inferior and crap.
No one questioned as to why the Nvidia Shield with the 32bit variant of the K1 managed to beat the A8x and 64Bit version of the K1 in this OpenGL tests. Even though the Nexus 9, has the same graphic card and a faster 64Bit CPU, something is defiantly off. So once I get mine I will immediately install Linux4Tegra and run some benchmarks of my one, particularly, encoding a large media file using CUDA and the 192 CUDA cores in the K1. I have zero doubt that the Nexus 9’s GPU performance will be on par if not faster than the Nvidia Shield or the Jetson Dev Board. In fact I would bet money on it. There is something wrong with either the drivers in Android or the GFX Benchmark app used was 32Bit. Regardless, as it stands now, the K1 is still incredibly quick.
Why am I so adamant in defending this chip? Well like I said before I have been using the K1 Jetson dev board since its release in April. It has been a fantastic platform to work on and learn about GPU computing. When I’m home, I actually use it as a normal development desktop machine, has a monitor, keyboard, mouse, external drive, the works. I am so fascinated with GPU computing, streaming processors and parallel computing. I have been using CUDA and Bionic the most as their the easiest technologies for me to utilize and implement a working application, it also means I can start dipping into other projects like Milky@home, PrimeGrid, Einstein@home, etc. as their CUDA based, OpenCL versions also exist for some. I have learned so much because of that little board, sure, yes, you can use OpenCL or another GPU eccentric platform/language but I got to tell, if you’re a newbie, it’s not going to very be easy in the beginning, especially starting to produce viable applications of you own, who knows though you’re probably a genius and if that is the case then I’m sorry I insulted your intelligence.
Anyway, using the Linux4Tegra OS that is freely available for download, not only comes pre-loaded with hundreds of apps, how to’s, example code, help manuals, etc. but if your like me and learn how to program by deconstructing other programmers code, ripping out snippets of code for your own means, then CUDA is a fantastic start as there is so much code and how-tos’ available that it will make you head spin. Not to mention it comes with a fantastic SDK called Vision Works Computer Vision ToolKit, spend a good day with it and you will be spewing code out faster than 13 year boy who found his daddy’s PlayBoys.
But why the Nexus 9 than Relic, it’s a tablet, well using just one example from the heap of things I have planned for it, imagine that you’re using Blender or Lightwave on your MacBook. Your all finished with your wire works and it’s time to render, wait time, an hour plus. I haven’t done this yet but it will be one of my priorities after I get the Nexus 9. Continued: No problem, I have my handy portable render box right here in my bag, you grab your Nexus 9, plug in a host cable and USB to Ethernet adapter, start up the tablet, but since it’s dual or even triple boot you choose Linux. Not just any Linux, a tiny custom stripped down version of Linux4Tegra specifically designed to start-up directly into a render program, still working out as to what render software I will be using but for the sake of continuing this fascinating example, we’ll use LuxRender, as it is free and compatible with ARM and of course using CUDA’s MPI to communicate, as it will also play an important part for connecting multiple devices with a Nvidia K1 into a cluster, parallel computing because you know you can never have too much power. Oh gosh, render wait time just went down to 20 minutes, yippie. I of course left out the exact specifics on how to connect your MacBook to the Nexus 9 but you get the picture. I’m currently doing this and a whole lot more on the Jetson K1.
I went into all of this to try and put a personal connection to this technology. Even though most of you will never do or even think of doing anything that I do, did that make sense. The Nvidia Denver K1 is a fantastic CPU and if you’d spent just a few minutes in the Nvidia development forums to see what people are doing/creating using this thing I believe your perceptions would change. The A8x is an absolute beast but for the time being all of that power is locked away into a single platform, a great platform, but locked away none the less. The k1 however is free to roam around and like I said at the beginning of my post, regardless of your silly need for Apple to always be on top, the K1 is still one of the fastest ARM chips available, only the A8x, and that’s because it has 3 cores vs. 2 as the K1 has, beats it. Look how many chips are beneath it though, a whole lot huh, so is it really junk, what’s going to happen in Q1 2015 when Nvidia releases its 4 core variant. What I’m trying to get at, did the K1 really need to be faster than the A8x to not to be called Junk.
I'm not talking to anyone person directly, please forgive the tone or content of this post. I have new med's that are effecting me profoundly.