Apple's rumored 12.9-inch 'iPad Pro' pushed back to Q2 2015, current models to see steep sales decli

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  • Reply 21 of 97

    With phones getting bigger and more powerful and computers getting smaller and more powerful, the iPad is put in a position where it isn't necessary anymore. I love my iPad and will probably always have one, but I use my iPhone 6 and MacBook Air 11" far more than I do the iPad.

     

    The iPad will still be huge in education and enterprise, but Apple does need to do something to reinvigorate people's interest in the product. Whatever happened to the split screen we were supposed to get? We need features like that and that's a pretty basic request if you ask me.

  • Reply 22 of 97
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    apple ][ wrote: »

    I see the original Air as a bit disappointing, because Apple didn't bother to make an A7X chip for it, and it just uses the same chip that the iPhone 5 has.

    The Air 2 is what the original Air should have been. I can understand why touch ID had to wait one year but the laminated display and 2GB RAM? Why wasn't that included in last years model?
  • Reply 23 of 97
    tyler82tyler82 Posts: 1,102member
    I feel like it takes Apple a few generations for their devices to catch up with the breaking technology and software. This happened with the iPad retina display, the limited GPU processor and RAM made the graphics stutter, and especially with iOS 8, it gets bogged down. But the iPad Air 2 screams. I'm hearing similar stories with the iMac Retina 5k, and now this new iPad with a supersized screen may end up having the same fate. Always good to wait a few cycles of a new product so that they can be perfected.
  • Reply 24 of 97
    WOW.... what an amazing prediction.... there will be sharp quarter-over-quarter drop in iPad sales following the HOLIDAY quarter. Who would of thunk it?
  • Reply 25 of 97
    hentaiboy wrote: »
    It's phablets that are going to kill iPads.

    I don't think so. The big difference is the phablet requires a two year (our variations there of) cellular phone contract or paying a fortune for an unlocked device. That is why the iPad including the mini will be fine.
  • Reply 26 of 97
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by paxman View Post

     

    Yes, but people like to have their minds. blown. Incremental upgrades just don't cut it. People want a total mind blowing redesign. Something totally new and revolutionary. How you do that is  another question. Drugs, perhaps?




    Not me. I don't want my mind blown!<img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

     

    I'll buy an iPad Pro 12.9" or whatever it's going to be called if they don't change things too much. I would just like a larger iPad and they can also make it more powerful. I don't want Apple to make a disgusting Surface like device. I definitely wouldn't buy one of those, no matter who makes it. 

     

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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post





    The Air 2 is what the original Air should have been. I can understand why touch ID had to wait one year but the laminated display and 2GB RAM? Why wasn't that included in last years model?

     

    Only Apple knows the answer to that I guess, but Apple has so many products across different lines, that they have to prioritize what gets upgraded first and when.

     

    Look at retina. It's pretty obvious that eventually all devices from Apple will have retina like displays, but the rollout has taken many years, and they're still not done yet.

  • Reply 27 of 97
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
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    People are much better off if they ignore all analysts.


    But Ming-Chi Kuo has been right most of the times. Check out his prediction on 4.7" and 5.5" iPhone. I was laughing when I saw it and at 1080p resolution on 5.5" version because I thought Apple would never waste battery on something beyond retina.

  • Reply 28 of 97
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
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    Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

     

    If current iPad's are on a sales decline, it won't be too surprising.  Neither the iPad Air 2 or the iPad Mini 3 were very good upgrades.


    Not good upgrade if you go from Air or Mini 2, but for people with 4th generations or earlier on 9.7" iPad or iPad Mini. I would say no tablet out there can even come close to iPad Air 2 level.

  • Reply 29 of 97
    cwscws Posts: 59member
    The iPad Air 2 was not a mere spec bump, although the spec improvements were dramatic. The inclusion of Touch ID was a huge differentiator from previous versions.
  • Reply 30 of 97
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post

     

    Not good upgrade if you go from Air or Mini 2, but for people with 4th generations or earlier on 9.7" iPad or iPad Mini. I would say no tablet out there can even come close to iPad Air 2 level.




    I think that Rogifan went from an Air to an Air 2 and she can speak for herself, but I believe that she's pretty pleased, if I recall correctly.

  • Reply 31 of 97
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    boriscleto wrote: »
    He is of course pulling all of this out of his ass.

    I think he should shove it back in.
  • Reply 32 of 97
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    Apple needs to heavily discount these on Blak Friday like Best Buy and Walmart or else it's a bust. And I'n not talking no gift card.
  • Reply 33 of 97
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    apple ][ wrote: »

    Not me. I don't want my mind blown!:lol:

    I'll buy an iPad Pro 12.9" or whatever it's going to be called if they don't change things too much. I would just like a larger iPad and they can also make it more powerful. I don't want Apple to make a disgusting Surface like device. I definitely wouldn't buy one of those, no matter who makes it. 


    Only Apple knows the answer to that I guess, but Apple has so many products across different lines, that they have to prioritize what gets upgraded first and when.

    Look at retina. It's pretty obvious that eventually all devices from Apple will have retina like displays, but the rollout has taken many years, and they're still not done yet.

    Apple's raison d'être is to ALWAYS hold back and dangle the carrot so the naive and/or fanbot will buy over and over again- not there's anything wrong with that.
  • Reply 34 of 97
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Exactly. And the Air 2 is proof that anyone who said iOS doesn't need 2GB RAM are full of shit. I rarely run into Safari tab reloads now. With the 1st gen Air it happened all the time.

    Then why did you ever ever buy a 1st gen anything?
  • Reply 35 of 97
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    The quarter following the Holiday Quarter will be down? Not. Stunned.

    YoY might be a better indicator.
  • Reply 36 of 97
    peteopeteo Posts: 402member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

    If current iPad's are on a sales decline, it won't be too surprising.  Neither the iPad Air 2 or the iPad Mini 3 were very good upgrades.

     

    iPad air 2 not a good upgrade over the iPad air? are you on drugs?

    Has a 3 core cpu, 8 core GPU, 2 gb of faster ram, Screen is laminated to the glass, anti glare coating makes it heck of alot easier to read under lights. Touch ID, apple pay and its thinner and lighter.
    What more do you want an f'in time machine???
  • Reply 37 of 97
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member

    So that thing I said was coming soon is now coming after soon at the earliest.

  • Reply 38 of 97
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cws View Post



    The iPad Air 2 was not a mere spec bump, although the spec improvements were dramatic. The inclusion of Touch ID was a huge differentiator from previous versions.

    Exactly. The way they engineered A8X chip that surprised a lot of people with its GPU performance. Somehow, Apple could engineer a unique 8 cluster design sticking 2 GX6450 PowerVR chips on the same die. Yup...Anand Tech confirmed it. The chip technology is 2-3 years ahead competitors, just unbelievable. 

  • Reply 39 of 97
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
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    Originally Posted by peteo View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

     

    If current iPad's are on a sales decline, it won't be too surprising.  Neither the iPad Air 2 or the iPad Mini 3 were very good upgrades.


     




    iPad air 2 not a good upgrade over the iPad air? are you on drugs?



    Has a 3 core cpu, 8 core GPU, 2 gb of faster ram, Screen is laminated to the glass, anti glare coating makes it heck of alot easier to read under lights. Touch ID, apple pay and its thinner and lighter.

    What more do you want an f'in time machine???

    and NFC too.

  • Reply 40 of 97
    And they start covering their asses cause they are about to be proven wrong. Just wait in another two weeks it will be pushed again
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