The DOJ forced American gun dealers to sell weapons to known Mexican drug cartel members in Operation Fast and Furious. Many men, women and children died at the hands of criminals using these weapons.
And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure. Thomas Jefferson
FBI Director James Comey said iOS 8 put users "above the law" and Apple was actively marketing that fact
This statement is disturbing on so many levels. The opinion of Mr Comey is that, by default, the government is lawfully permitted to spy on all of us using government directed digital agents and our refusal to allow this intrusion to take place is a criminal act. I believe that in this day and age our digital lives are part of the umbrella that constitutes our personal lives and are part of our "homes" and as such constitutes an intrusion that violates the Third Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:
"No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."
If the government believes it is wholly appropriate to engage modern technology to provide remote control, point & click killing of our enemies it also needs to recognize the influences that technology has on our personal freedoms. Forcing owners to have government agents, or "software soldiers," quartered in our personal devices that are part of our physical and digital "home" is clearly a violation of the Third Amendment - in my opinion.
The government could argue that we are "at war" and and prescribe laws to allow the quartering of software soldiers within our homes. Sadly, since we declared war on an ideology rather than a discrete adversary country or alliance of nations, we've established the perfect formula for endless war. This is only reinforced by the 80% majority who have zero stake in the ongoing conflicts and view the endless war as simply background chatter that will never directly impact their lives. Again - in my opinion.
I hope that the separation of powers and other checks and balances that exist within the U.S. government system prevent the fear mongering, emotion baiting, and hysteria exhibited by Mr Comey from leading us down the path of catastrophic consequences that begins with the loss of personal freedom. Many other great societies have failed under similar circumstances. I don't want to sound crass or uncaring, but let's do the math and weigh the lives of millions who have died in revolutionary, civil, and world wars to get us where we are today to protect our sovereignty and personal freedom. Maybe the death of millions in the past doesn't pull at the heartstrings like the death of one child today does, but it should. It's is no less real and it should be a million times as heartbreaking. I'm amazed at how quickly some people are willing to push aside the entire foundation for what makes us great for contemporary political gain. This may seem like a small thing to some, but you have to recognize how technology can serve as a force multiplier and agent of change. Once we lose our unifying foundation and personal freedoms they will be lost forever.
What a joke. By this logic, the necessity of warrants is responsible for multiple deaths of children every year. Get rid of warrants and voila, now you can invade anyone's home based on suspicion and gut feelings. That should save at least one child's life. Eventually.
Even beyond that, all you have to do is go buy a prepaid dumbphone, make your calls, and then chuck it in the river when the job is done. There’s even a name for that a phone used in this way, but I can’t remember it...
After reading through the article and comments here, I just have to say how proud I am to be part of this community. I think it's well accepted Apple users have more refined tastes and higher expectations of quality, but I'm happy to see a good dose of common sense and critical thinking included.
I can assure you the comments on the story at CNN and FOXNews would be of a very different flavor. Drinking the Kool-Aid flavor. Well, it's nice to know there still a glimmer of hope for our country.
Congratulations, you win the booby prize! There were 82 posts in a row against the DOJ and you posted in support.
BTW, the nude photos you suggest are the minor consequence of insecure data are much more likely to be of a teenage child, who unfortunately sexted and got hacked, then has a significant chance of committing suicide.
There seems to be some people in high places in the USA that would have Joe Public think that it seems. This on the heels of that press release about Apple's last trojan. Where are all the Official warnings about Android and Windows? 'Follow the money' would seem the only way to find out IMHO.
There seems to be some people in high places in the USA that would have Joe Public think that it seems. This on the heels of that press release about Apple's last trojan. Where are all the Official warnings about Android and Windows? 'Follow the money' would seem the only way to find out IMHO.
Yeah, definitely struck me as odd that they would publicize one Apple virus when they could have a heyday on the PC side. What can you say, isn't this the same DOJ that colluded with Amazon on the e-book case?
This statement is disturbing on so many levels. The opinion of Mr Comey is that, by default, the government is lawfully permitted to spy on all of us using government directed digital agents and our refusal to allow this intrusion to take place is a criminal act.
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost
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Is the USA headed toward "1984" or "Idiocracy" (movie)?
"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." - Adolph Hitler (Mein Kampf)
Very appropriate quote. In an attempt to stay in control and maintain order, invoking emotional responses is done all too often. It's because it works on the right target audience and even this forum demonstrates it. The threads with the most replies are ones that invoke a strong emotional response. Pretty low route to go but it's routine for the government.
Both of my children are LoJacked, child tracking software, part of our no curfew policy as long as we know where they are. So I don't see a problem here, all parents should be tracking their child's movements now, especially when the technology is so widely available and inexpensive. It's certainly a lot more effective than trying to determine their whereabouts with messaging. As far as tracking child predators over messaging, again the parents should have a handle on who their child is speaking too and what is being said, one of the stipulations for my child joining any social network is that I have access to their accounts until 16, this is a new world we are living in, such measures have to be taken. Trust has nothing to do with my motives. This is an internal family matter, the government has no jurisdiction and this argument of there's falls flatter than my chest, pre-boobie implants of course.
IMO, accessing your kids social network accounts is a bit much... what if they wanted to come out as gay, or their less-responsible friend likes to send teaser-sexting? There's a potential childporn charge just for looking at your kids friends wall/posts. Lojack their devices and vehicles for sure though.
And to bring this back to the original topic, "think of the children" is why we have bad laws. Instead of trying to protect children like they are eggshells, we should be treating them with the same respect any other adult should have, but toning down the consequences for "not knowing." The amount of carte blanche some children and teens "know" they have is scary.
At least not in the USA. I lived n a lower class neighborhood got years and the stuff I saw cops do was unbelievable.
A lot of times if a crime occurred and someone called the police, they either wouldn't show up or the witness who called 911 would be arrested themselves. So people stopped calling them.
No way in hell should Apple submit to the scumbag government and pigs.
Are the American government still wittering about having a back foot into iMessage so the can 'monitor' communications. If they are serious about child exploitation maybe the should set tougher goals for the mainstream media first as well as finding ways to actual catch these sick people
society should not create "sick" people in first place. they are not sick by birth but life circumstances created them so society should do everything to prevent their members to become sociopaths (or similar).
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Thomas Jefferson
http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/tree-liberty-quotation
Nude celebrity photos.
This statement is disturbing on so many levels. The opinion of Mr Comey is that, by default, the government is lawfully permitted to spy on all of us using government directed digital agents and our refusal to allow this intrusion to take place is a criminal act. I believe that in this day and age our digital lives are part of the umbrella that constitutes our personal lives and are part of our "homes" and as such constitutes an intrusion that violates the Third Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:
"No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."
If the government believes it is wholly appropriate to engage modern technology to provide remote control, point & click killing of our enemies it also needs to recognize the influences that technology has on our personal freedoms. Forcing owners to have government agents, or "software soldiers," quartered in our personal devices that are part of our physical and digital "home" is clearly a violation of the Third Amendment - in my opinion.
The government could argue that we are "at war" and and prescribe laws to allow the quartering of software soldiers within our homes. Sadly, since we declared war on an ideology rather than a discrete adversary country or alliance of nations, we've established the perfect formula for endless war. This is only reinforced by the 80% majority who have zero stake in the ongoing conflicts and view the endless war as simply background chatter that will never directly impact their lives. Again - in my opinion.
I hope that the separation of powers and other checks and balances that exist within the U.S. government system prevent the fear mongering, emotion baiting, and hysteria exhibited by Mr Comey from leading us down the path of catastrophic consequences that begins with the loss of personal freedom. Many other great societies have failed under similar circumstances. I don't want to sound crass or uncaring, but let's do the math and weigh the lives of millions who have died in revolutionary, civil, and world wars to get us where we are today to protect our sovereignty and personal freedom. Maybe the death of millions in the past doesn't pull at the heartstrings like the death of one child today does, but it should. It's is no less real and it should be a million times as heartbreaking. I'm amazed at how quickly some people are willing to push aside the entire foundation for what makes us great for contemporary political gain. This may seem like a small thing to some, but you have to recognize how technology can serve as a force multiplier and agent of change. Once we lose our unifying foundation and personal freedoms they will be lost forever.
A 'burner' isn't it?
After reading through the article and comments here, I just have to say how proud I am to be part of this community. I think it's well accepted Apple users have more refined tastes and higher expectations of quality, but I'm happy to see a good dose of common sense and critical thinking included.
I can assure you the comments on the story at CNN and FOXNews would be of a very different flavor. Drinking the Kool-Aid flavor. Well, it's nice to know there still a glimmer of hope for our country.
Group hug anyone?
Congratulations, you win the booby prize! There were 82 posts in a row against the DOJ and you posted in support.
BTW, the nude photos you suggest are the minor consequence of insecure data are much more likely to be of a teenage child, who unfortunately sexted and got hacked, then has a significant chance of committing suicide.
There seems to be some people in high places in the USA that would have Joe Public think that it seems. This on the heels of that press release about Apple's last trojan. Where are all the Official warnings about Android and Windows? 'Follow the money' would seem the only way to find out IMHO.
Yeah, definitely struck me as odd that they would publicize one Apple virus when they could have a heyday on the PC side. What can you say, isn't this the same DOJ that colluded with Amazon on the e-book case?
This is lame ... What's next? ISIS?
This statement is disturbing on so many levels. The opinion of Mr Comey is that, by default, the government is lawfully permitted to spy on all of us using government directed digital agents and our refusal to allow this intrusion to take place is a criminal act.
Nude celebrity photos.
Is the USA headed toward "1984" or "Idiocracy" (movie)?
Very appropriate quote. In an attempt to stay in control and maintain order, invoking emotional responses is done all too often. It's because it works on the right target audience and even this forum demonstrates it. The threads with the most replies are ones that invoke a strong emotional response. Pretty low route to go but it's routine for the government.
IMO, accessing your kids social network accounts is a bit much... what if they wanted to come out as gay, or their less-responsible friend likes to send teaser-sexting? There's a potential childporn charge just for looking at your kids friends wall/posts. Lojack their devices and vehicles for sure though.
And to bring this back to the original topic, "think of the children" is why we have bad laws. Instead of trying to protect children like they are eggshells, we should be treating them with the same respect any other adult should have, but toning down the consequences for "not knowing." The amount of carte blanche some children and teens "know" they have is scary.
copblock.org
At least not in the USA. I lived n a lower class neighborhood got years and the stuff I saw cops do was unbelievable.
A lot of times if a crime occurred and someone called the police, they either wouldn't show up or the witness who called 911 would be arrested themselves. So people stopped calling them.
No way in hell should Apple submit to the scumbag government and pigs.
Nice strawman argument DOJ. Nice try.
Are the American government still wittering about having a back foot into iMessage so the can 'monitor' communications. If they are serious about child exploitation maybe the should set tougher goals for the mainstream media first as well as finding ways to actual catch these sick people
society should not create "sick" people in first place. they are not sick by birth but life circumstances created them so society should do everything to prevent their members to become sociopaths (or similar).
Disgusting
Over the top
Jackasses !
Exactly, Puppies are so commonplace, you know? Apple feasts on stem-cell fajitas.