So anecdotes for two people.
Now Google "twitter Heat map" and look at where Android has more users: poor neighborhoods. Overwhelmingly, not two people.
So anecdotes for two people.
Now Google "twitter Heat map" and look at where Android has more users: poor neighborhoods. Overwhelmingly, not two people.
I agree, and I never said that what Wall Street thinks is correct. I pointed out human nature, and if you know any rich people you'll know that they're often frugal for the silliest things. Do you know what cars people with money in China buy? Buicks. You can't assume that people are going to switch from a product once they gain some affluence.
Oh. How the tables have turned. If windows phone OS market share is a bloodbath where is the Mac?
Apple has long had very small "market share" across all PCs, but sold a large portion of the high end PCs, allowing it to make enough money to keep building Macs. Over at least the last 5 years, Apple has sold +90% all of the PCs above $1000.
The market share Windows Phone has earned itself comes from the very low end of the market, where there isn't any money. Nokia wasn't able to sell enough high end WP devices to stay in business and not loose money. Microsoft is currently dumping cheap Lumia branded devices in poor countries, but is not making money on phones or tablets.
"Market share" is not comparable when the share and the market are both completely different.
I agree, and I never said that what Wall Street thinks is correct. I pointed out human nature, and if you know any rich people you'll know that they're often frugal for the silliest things. Do you know what cars people with money in China buy? Buicks. You can't assume that people are going to switch from a product once they gain some affluence.
A Buick is not the fanciest car, but it's not a cheap car either.
iPhones may be thought of as luxury class (and Apple doesn't sell super cheap, low end products) but iOS devices are not high end luxury priced.
Anyone that can afford a new car of any kind can afford an iPhone. And Apple's brand is also aspirational. I'm often shocked to see people who don't have very much money at all with a brand new iPhone, but then I recall being a young teen with no money and remember saving up for a Sony Discman rather than the cheapest CD player that could be bought, because I liked nice things too.
The only Android or WP licensee that has made any money at all was Samsung, and that was because Samsung slavishly copied the iPhone and iPad, not because it churned out huge volumes of lower end devices. That's easy to understand because Samsung's profits collapsed as soon as its Galaxy S/Note sales went down, despite its cheap device volumes staying high.
Everyone else in the industry--including Xiaomi and Lenovo--are making even less than Samsung ever made, which itself always made less than Apple. What's the industry going to look like when there is nobody earning any profits but Apple?
What's the industry going to look like when there is nobody earning any profits but Apple?
It's going to look like every other CE industry. In many ways surviving is winning. What Apple has done is unique, and it's something that cannot be duplicated, and any attempts to do so will result in failure.
That's cool, and reasonably measures recent performance, but I've never understood the obsessive attachment to "market share" (a misleading term) numbers. Other than showing current sales trends, it's meaningless.
I like to see results for active installed base, and see how any recent sales grows that figure. Heck, I'm still on an iPhone 4s and my kids are still using my original 1st gen iPhone (it still works!).
It's going to look like every other CE industry. In many ways surviving is winning. What Apple has done is unique, and it's something that cannot be duplicated, and any attempts to do so will result in failure.
And once Apple has buried all of their competitors, the government will go after Apple for "abusing a monopoly position" and demand a breakup of the company, access to all of their source code and free phones for everyone. We all know what's coming. /s
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So anecdotes for two people.
Now Google "twitter Heat map" and look at where Android has more users: poor neighborhoods. Overwhelmingly, not two people.
I agree, and I never said that what Wall Street thinks is correct. I pointed out human nature, and if you know any rich people you'll know that they're often frugal for the silliest things. Do you know what cars people with money in China buy? Buicks. You can't assume that people are going to switch from a product once they gain some affluence.
Oh. How the tables have turned. If windows phone OS market share is a bloodbath where is the Mac?
Apple has long had very small "market share" across all PCs, but sold a large portion of the high end PCs, allowing it to make enough money to keep building Macs. Over at least the last 5 years, Apple has sold +90% all of the PCs above $1000.
The market share Windows Phone has earned itself comes from the very low end of the market, where there isn't any money. Nokia wasn't able to sell enough high end WP devices to stay in business and not loose money. Microsoft is currently dumping cheap Lumia branded devices in poor countries, but is not making money on phones or tablets.
"Market share" is not comparable when the share and the market are both completely different.
I agree, and I never said that what Wall Street thinks is correct. I pointed out human nature, and if you know any rich people you'll know that they're often frugal for the silliest things. Do you know what cars people with money in China buy? Buicks. You can't assume that people are going to switch from a product once they gain some affluence.
A Buick is not the fanciest car, but it's not a cheap car either.
iPhones may be thought of as luxury class (and Apple doesn't sell super cheap, low end products) but iOS devices are not high end luxury priced.
Anyone that can afford a new car of any kind can afford an iPhone. And Apple's brand is also aspirational. I'm often shocked to see people who don't have very much money at all with a brand new iPhone, but then I recall being a young teen with no money and remember saving up for a Sony Discman rather than the cheapest CD player that could be bought, because I liked nice things too.
The only Android or WP licensee that has made any money at all was Samsung, and that was because Samsung slavishly copied the iPhone and iPad, not because it churned out huge volumes of lower end devices. That's easy to understand because Samsung's profits collapsed as soon as its Galaxy S/Note sales went down, despite its cheap device volumes staying high.
Everyone else in the industry--including Xiaomi and Lenovo--are making even less than Samsung ever made, which itself always made less than Apple. What's the industry going to look like when there is nobody earning any profits but Apple?
It's going to look like every other CE industry. In many ways surviving is winning. What Apple has done is unique, and it's something that cannot be duplicated, and any attempts to do so will result in failure.
That's cool, and reasonably measures recent performance, but I've never understood the obsessive attachment to "market share" (a misleading term) numbers. Other than showing current sales trends, it's meaningless.
I like to see results for active installed base, and see how any recent sales grows that figure. Heck, I'm still on an iPhone 4s and my kids are still using my original 1st gen iPhone (it still works!).
It's going to look like every other CE industry. In many ways surviving is winning. What Apple has done is unique, and it's something that cannot be duplicated, and any attempts to do so will result in failure.
And once Apple has buried all of their competitors, the government will go after Apple for "abusing a monopoly position" and demand a breakup of the company, access to all of their source code and free phones for everyone. We all know what's coming.
I second you !