Two officers killed today. Sorry for the loss, but still, I'm quite amazed it took so long.
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to make such an idiotic remark.
This has nothing to do with protestors in the Apple Store or anywhere else. This guy was from out-of-state where he shot his girlfriend. He committed suicide after killing the cops. There's still a lot we don't know, but it's doubtful this has anything to do with protests or anything else. This is simply one very sick guy.
And even if this psychotic was enraged over the recent civilian deaths, that means nothing. Demonstrations of any kind will attract idiots who take advantage of the demonstration to wreck havoc (or simply to get laid).
Protesting the fact that several police incidents have resulted in deaths of unarmed people doesn't mean that people want to kill cops any more than protesting the Iraq War means that people want to kill soldiers.
If Adam Lanza killing 20 small kids and 8 adults in Connecticut doesn't mean that all gun owners want to kill kids, then one disturbed person doesn't mean that protestors want to kill cops.
The irony here is that this black guy committed a murderous race crime whereas the police officers responsible for the accidental deaths didn't. The families of Eric Garner and Michael Brown have publicly condemned the shootings:
Listen to the chants 'burn this bitch down' (by Michael Brown's step-father), 'f* the police'. What did they expect to happen?
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They're saying they don't think all police are bad but without a way to identify and target any bad ones, they simply promote violence and disrespect towards all of them. They won't take responsibility for these deaths though. They'd say the prosecutors who let the Ferguson shooter go free have blood on their hands; by the same measure, the protestors have blood on theirs. That's not progress.
The irony here is that this black guy committed a murderous race crime whereas the police officers responsible for the accidental deaths didn't. The families of Eric Garner and Michael Brown have publicly condemned the shootings:
Listen to the chants 'burn this bitch down' (by Michael Brown's step-father), 'f* the police'. What did they expect to happen?
They're saying they don't think all police are bad but without a way to identify and target any bad ones, they simply promote violence and disrespect towards all of them. They won't take responsibility for these deaths though. They'd say the prosecutors who let the Ferguson shooter go free have blood on their hands; by the same measure, the protestors have blood on theirs. That's not progress.
Absolute b.s. When you think that members of a minority race have responsibility for the actions of each other, that's racism. It's like thinking that if you're black, you must know every other black.
If you attend a pro-guns rally and some guy who goes to the rally leaves the rally and kills someone, does the gun lobby take responsiblity?
Back in the 60s and 70s, I attended many rallies for Civil Rights and against the war in Vietnam and there would almost always be some jerk who would take advantage of the situation to vandalize or commit a crime. Nothing you can do about that - troublemakers are always attracted to a crowd.
What does attempting to kill his girlfriend have to do with the demonstrations against the police? Nothing. His supposed intent to kill police in NY was just an excuse.
And I suspect that you would be just as enraged as Michael Brown's father was if your child was killed by the police, regardless of the circumstances. Hell, we get people on here who seem enraged just because someone writes something negative about Apple!
When the police harass you day after day, it's going to reach a boiling point. The Federal Government has launched an investigation into the use of force by the Ferguson police. There have been many reports showing that many police departments in the U.S. have been militarized after 9/11, because they were offered free equipment by the Feds. But most didn't receive proper training. One thing I'll say for the NYC police in spite of incidences of abuse over the years (and the recent one in Staten Island as well as the plainclothes cop who punched the 12-year-old the other day) is that they never became militarized.
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to make such an idiotic remark.
This has nothing to do with protestors in the Apple Store or anywhere else. This guy was from out-of-state where he shot his girlfriend. He committed suicide after killing the cops. There's still a lot we don't know, but it's doubtful this has anything to do with protests or anything else. This is simply one very sick guy.
And even if this psychotic was enraged over the recent civilian deaths, that means nothing. Demonstrations of any kind will attract idiots who take advantage of the demonstration to wreck havoc (or simply to get laid).
Protesting the fact that several police incidents have resulted in deaths of unarmed people doesn't mean that people want to kill cops any more than protesting the Iraq War means that people want to kill soldiers.
If Adam Lanza killing 20 small kids and 8 adults in Connecticut doesn't mean that all gun owners want to kill kids, then one disturbed person doesn't mean that protestors want to kill cops.
What do you think is going to happen when a impressionable, and mentally unstable man sees protesters chanting for dead cops? It wasn't their intent for that to happen? Just like it wasn't the intent of the officer to kill Eric Garner? Funny how you'll empathize with one but not the other.
When you think that members of a minority race have responsibility for the actions of each other, that's racism.
It's not limited to a minority race and the same statement applies to white police officers. If some members encourage others to do something then they do bear responsibility just like if a commander sends an army to war.
If you attend a pro-guns rally and some guy who goes to the rally leaves the rally and kills someone, does the gun lobby take responsiblity?
I doubt they'd ever take responsibility but if they promoted killing using those weapons, I'd expect them to be blamed. If protestors ask for dead cops and people go and kill cops then that's what they asked for. They seem to be happy about their deaths:
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I don't recall seeing white police officers gloating about nor encouraging killing black people.
His supposed intent to kill police in NY was just an excuse.
He posted on Instagram "they take 1 of ours ... let's take 2 of theirs" with reference to the recent killings by white cops. The cops weren't in the process of arresting him, he caught them off-guard and murdered them. You can dismiss cold-blooded murder committed by someone who's black as just an excuse and yet you don't dismiss accidental homicide if it's committed by someone who is white.
I suspect that you would be just as enraged as Michael Brown's father was if your child was killed by the police, regardless of the circumstances.
Any outrage would be with complete regard to circumstances e.g robbing a store. In the case of Eric Garner, that was an accidental death. The guy in the Ferguson video is not Michael Brown's father, nor even his step-father really and apparently has a criminal record. He has been arrested and could be charged for inciting the violent protests:
I can understand that would lead to some tension but this was another example of media (including social media) being used by black criminals to fight against authority to allow them to commit crime with impunity. It happened in the UK too when an unarmed criminal was shot:
There were 3100 arrests made and 5 members of the public were killed during the riots trying to stop looters and arsonists. The result was that cops will continue to come down hard on criminals as they should.
There have been many reports showing that many police departments in the U.S. have been militarized after 9/11, because they were offered free equipment by the Feds. But most didn't receive proper training.
That doesn't have anything to do with the killings. Eric Garner was sat on and the other officer had a handgun just like over 100 million other American civilians. There was no use of military force. The use of excessive military force is welcomed when there's a terrorist attack. That's not to say local law enforcement should be over-militarized but condemn it when it's misused.
And I suspect that you would be just as enraged as Michael Brown's father was if your child was killed by the police, regardless of the circumstances.
Rage comes from injustice. The guy charged the officer. That’s just tragedy, and EMBARRASSMENT for raising your child such that he would ever behave in that way. Any other response is nonsense.
When the police harass you day after day, it's going to reach a boiling point.
When you commit more crimes as a group than any other…
The Federal Government has launched an investigation into the use of force by the Ferguson police.
Whiny idiots have launched an investigation into something meaningless. Good for them. I seem to remember that third autopsy they demanded showing, wow, NOTHING that the local authorities hadn’t already found.
The “best two out of three” mentality is dangerous and disturbing, never mind wasteful.
…they never became militarized.
They’re already larger and have more funding than many countries’ militaries, anyway.
No one said that, try staying on point. These problems exist and ignoring them will not make them go away. Also, don't make generalizations that you don't understand, social security and government education grants are - government programs. Just those two programs have kept people from being homeless and empowered others who don't have the financial means to pursue higher education goals.
There's a famous line that goes, "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." —Matthew 26:11
"Poor" is not a solvable problem by external forces. It's something for the individual to overcome.
President Obama, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, other filthy race hustlers, the liberal media, the protesters, the Mayor of NYC are all responsible for the dead police officers, with their race baiting actions, their lies, their false narratives and their immoral support of criminals and their smearing of all police officers.
Anybody resisting arrest is not too bright. One wonders what kind of terrible parents some of these people must have, that failed to teach their children basic common sense.
And minorities should be profiled more, not less, because the stats are off the charts, as certain minorities make up the vast amount of crimes committed in certain places, compared to their actual population numbers.
And I saw those disgusting white liberals on tv that were arrested recently for violently assaulting and attacking police officers on the Brooklyn bridge. The authorities need to throw the book at these ignorant, violent, liberal millennials and put them away for a long time, just to make an example.
These hypocritical dipshits think that violence is the way to go? We'll see about that. They are vastly outgunned by Americans who aren't anarchist, liberal criminals and if they wish to start something, then they will soon regret their foolish decisions. Bring it on.
Anybody resisting arrest is not too bright. One wonders what kind of terrible parents some of these people must have, that failed to teach their children basic common sense.
Yep, all those stupid colonists that resisted the tyrannical British rule¡ Such horrible parents the US' founding fathers had¡
General Thomas Gage received orders to arrest several patriot leaders, rumored to be around Lexington. Gage sent his troops out on the night of April 18, hoping to catch the colonists by surprise and thus to avoid bloodshed. When the British arrived in Lexington, however, colonial militia awaited them. A fire fight soon ensued. Even so, it was not obvious that this clash would lead to war.
PS: In case it's not clear to you, it's "not too bright" to say that anyone that resists arrest is not too bright.
Yep, all those stupid colonists that resisted the tyrannical British rule¡ Such horrible parents the US' founding fathers had¡
There’s tyranny and there’s stupidity. You know this. Are convenience store criminals trying to create a new country? Is an overly-violent cop trying to single-handedly oppress an entire country?
If there’s nothing going wrong on either end, an unwarranted (not “not with a warrant” but “without reason”) arrest will only result positively for you. You’ll get compensation for your time wasted and the cop will have action taken against him. Attacking a cop probably isn’t going to end well. If the government’s behaving unlawfully, by all means take action (physical last, not first). I fail to see how arresting criminals is unlawful.
Chanting “kill cops” as response to the justice system acting as designed isn’t going to net you many followers.
There’s tyranny and there’s stupidity. You know this.
'I' know this, but 'I' didn't use the exhaustive and all inclusive term anybody to write the statements. As usual, the inherent bigotry of his comments shines through with the failure to understand what is being written.
Yep, all those stupid colonists that resisted the tyrannical British rule¡ Such horrible parents the US' founding fathers had¡
What a ridiculous comment, totally devoid of any historical understanding or perspective.
If you are one of those loonies that truly believes that the USA is evil or that the police force is the enemy, then I suggest that you go out and confront some police officers soon, and we'll see what happens.
'I' know this, but 'I' didn't use the exhaustive and all inclusive term anybody to write the statements. As usual, the inherent bigotry of his comments shines through with the failure to understand what is being written.
Yes, of course.
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There's a famous line that goes, "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." —Matthew 26:11
"Poor" is not a solvable problem by external forces. It's something for the individual to overcome.
The same book says:
"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land."
"...You are to help your brothers until the LORD gives them rest, as he has done for you..."
"Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."
"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed."
"The poor are shunned even by their neighbors, but the rich have many friends. He who despises his neighbor sins, but blessed is he who is kind to the needy."
"He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God."
"He who is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward him for what he has done."
"A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor."
"He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich — both come to poverty."
"Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them."
"Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy."
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."
"This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the alien or the poor. In your hearts do not think evil of each other.'"
"when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."
"Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others."
"Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?"
It would probably be best to pick someone other than Jesus as a role model for not helping the poor. Poor people can't all create their own jobs, they can't all educate themselves. From a young age, people need education and discipline that is outside of their control. The response to that help comes from the individual but without external help, poverty can't solve itself. People who have never been poor tend to not appreciate that. Not that people ought to be poor at some point, they ought to be more empathic and not assume that all their good fortune was earned and deserved.
Yet again you promote policies that result in events that you criticize. People steal things because they are poor or greedy but you promote people being left in poverty. If you want a problem to go away, why purposely exacerbate it?
"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land."
"...You are to help your brothers until the LORD gives them rest, as he has done for you..."
"Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."
"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed."
"The poor are shunned even by their neighbors, but the rich have many friends. He who despises his neighbor sins, but blessed is he who is kind to the needy."
"He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God."
"He who is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward him for what he has done."
"A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor."
"He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich — both come to poverty."
"Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them."
"Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy."
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."
"This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the alien or the poor. In your hearts do not think evil of each other.'"
"when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."
"Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others."
"Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?"
It would probably be best to pick someone other than Jesus as a role model for not helping the poor. Poor people can't all create their own jobs, they can't all educate themselves. From a young age, people need education and discipline that is outside of their control. The response to that help comes from the individual but without external help, poverty can't solve itself. People who have never been poor tend to not appreciate that. Not that people ought to be poor at some point, they ought to be more empathic and not assume that all their good fortune was earned and deserved.
Yet again you promote policies that result in events that you criticize. People steal things because they are poor or greedy but you promote people being left in poverty. If you want a problem to go away, why purposely exacerbate it?
My post was a rebuke of government solutions, not individual solutions. Use your own actions to help others, don't rely on the stupidity of throwing money away on wasteful programs which feed into government growth and wasted tax dollars when your individual response makes more of an impact.
There's a famous line that goes, "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." —Matthew 26:11
"Poor" is not a solvable problem by external forces. It's something for the individual to overcome.
The same book says:
"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land."
"...You are to help your brothers until the LORD gives them rest, as he has done for you..."
"Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."
"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed."
"The poor are shunned even by their neighbors, but the rich have many friends. He who despises his neighbor sins, but blessed is he who is kind to the needy."
"He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God."
"He who is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward him for what he has done."
"A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor."
"He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich — both come to poverty."
"Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them."
"Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy."
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."
"This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the alien or the poor. In your hearts do not think evil of each other.'"
"when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."
"Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others."
"Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?"
It would probably be best to pick someone other than Jesus as a role model for not helping the poor. Poor people can't all create their own jobs, they can't all educate themselves. From a young age, people need education and discipline that is outside of their control. The response to that help comes from the individual but without external help, poverty can't solve itself. People who have never been poor tend to not appreciate that. Not that people ought to be poor at some point, they ought to be more empathic and not assume that all their good fortune was earned and deserved.
Yet again you promote policies that result in events that you criticize. People steal things because they are poor or greedy but you promote people being left in poverty. If you want a problem to go away, why purposely exacerbate it?
Nice to see those quotes.
However, poverty is not an excuse for stealing, any more than power is an excuse for corruption.
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Two officers killed today. Sorry for the loss, but still, I'm quite amazed it took so long.
That's one sorry 'sorry'. Why even bother?
Two officers killed today. Sorry for the loss, but still, I'm quite amazed it took so long.
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to make such an idiotic remark.
This has nothing to do with protestors in the Apple Store or anywhere else. This guy was from out-of-state where he shot his girlfriend. He committed suicide after killing the cops. There's still a lot we don't know, but it's doubtful this has anything to do with protests or anything else. This is simply one very sick guy.
And even if this psychotic was enraged over the recent civilian deaths, that means nothing. Demonstrations of any kind will attract idiots who take advantage of the demonstration to wreck havoc (or simply to get laid).
Protesting the fact that several police incidents have resulted in deaths of unarmed people doesn't mean that people want to kill cops any more than protesting the Iraq War means that people want to kill soldiers.
If Adam Lanza killing 20 small kids and 8 adults in Connecticut doesn't mean that all gun owners want to kill kids, then one disturbed person doesn't mean that protestors want to kill cops.
The black guy responsible shot his presumably black ex-girlfriend, wounding her and then shot and killed Hispanic and Asian-American police officers:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/21/us-usa-newyork-police-idUSKBN0JY0N820141221
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882268/Quite-simply-assassinated-NYPD-commissioner-slams-tragic-murder-two-cops-five-days-Christmas-reveals-one-recently-married-13-year-old-son.html
The irony here is that this black guy committed a murderous race crime whereas the police officers responsible for the accidental deaths didn't. The families of Eric Garner and Michael Brown have publicly condemned the shootings:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882325/Michael-Browns-family-condemns-shootings-NYC-officers.html
but they incited the violence:
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Listen to the chants 'burn this bitch down' (by Michael Brown's step-father), 'f* the police'. What did they expect to happen?
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They're saying they don't think all police are bad but without a way to identify and target any bad ones, they simply promote violence and disrespect towards all of them. They won't take responsibility for these deaths though. They'd say the prosecutors who let the Ferguson shooter go free have blood on their hands; by the same measure, the protestors have blood on theirs. That's not progress.
The black guy responsible shot his presumably black ex-girlfriend, wounding her and then shot and killed Hispanic and Asian-American police officers:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/21/us-usa-newyork-police-idUSKBN0JY0N820141221
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882268/Quite-simply-assassinated-NYPD-commissioner-slams-tragic-murder-two-cops-five-days-Christmas-reveals-one-recently-married-13-year-old-son.html
The irony here is that this black guy committed a murderous race crime whereas the police officers responsible for the accidental deaths didn't. The families of Eric Garner and Michael Brown have publicly condemned the shootings:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882325/Michael-Browns-family-condemns-shootings-NYC-officers.html
but they incited the violence:
Listen to the chants 'burn this bitch down' (by Michael Brown's step-father), 'f* the police'. What did they expect to happen?
They're saying they don't think all police are bad but without a way to identify and target any bad ones, they simply promote violence and disrespect towards all of them. They won't take responsibility for these deaths though. They'd say the prosecutors who let the Ferguson shooter go free have blood on their hands; by the same measure, the protestors have blood on theirs. That's not progress.
Absolute b.s. When you think that members of a minority race have responsibility for the actions of each other, that's racism. It's like thinking that if you're black, you must know every other black.
If you attend a pro-guns rally and some guy who goes to the rally leaves the rally and kills someone, does the gun lobby take responsiblity?
Back in the 60s and 70s, I attended many rallies for Civil Rights and against the war in Vietnam and there would almost always be some jerk who would take advantage of the situation to vandalize or commit a crime. Nothing you can do about that - troublemakers are always attracted to a crowd.
What does attempting to kill his girlfriend have to do with the demonstrations against the police? Nothing. His supposed intent to kill police in NY was just an excuse.
And I suspect that you would be just as enraged as Michael Brown's father was if your child was killed by the police, regardless of the circumstances. Hell, we get people on here who seem enraged just because someone writes something negative about Apple!
When the police harass you day after day, it's going to reach a boiling point. The Federal Government has launched an investigation into the use of force by the Ferguson police. There have been many reports showing that many police departments in the U.S. have been militarized after 9/11, because they were offered free equipment by the Feds. But most didn't receive proper training. One thing I'll say for the NYC police in spite of incidences of abuse over the years (and the recent one in Staten Island as well as the plainclothes cop who punched the 12-year-old the other day) is that they never became militarized.
…one disturbed person doesn’t mean that protestors want to kill cops.
Theoretically, but, uh, no. See:
What do you think is going to happen when a impressionable, and mentally unstable man sees protesters chanting for dead cops? It wasn't their intent for that to happen? Just like it wasn't the intent of the officer to kill Eric Garner? Funny how you'll empathize with one but not the other.
It's not limited to a minority race and the same statement applies to white police officers. If some members encourage others to do something then they do bear responsibility just like if a commander sends an army to war.
I doubt they'd ever take responsibility but if they promoted killing using those weapons, I'd expect them to be blamed. If protestors ask for dead cops and people go and kill cops then that's what they asked for. They seem to be happy about their deaths:
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I don't recall seeing white police officers gloating about nor encouraging killing black people.
He posted on Instagram "they take 1 of ours ... let's take 2 of theirs" with reference to the recent killings by white cops. The cops weren't in the process of arresting him, he caught them off-guard and murdered them. You can dismiss cold-blooded murder committed by someone who's black as just an excuse and yet you don't dismiss accidental homicide if it's committed by someone who is white.
Any outrage would be with complete regard to circumstances e.g robbing a store. In the case of Eric Garner, that was an accidental death. The guy in the Ferguson video is not Michael Brown's father, nor even his step-father really and apparently has a criminal record. He has been arrested and could be charged for inciting the violent protests:
http://news.yahoo.com/michael-brown-stepfather-louis-head-apologizes-ferguson-riot-150251893.html
This wasn't about stop and frisk, which is going to be repealed:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/12/us-usa-newyork-police-idUSBRE97B0FK20130812?irpc=932
I can understand that would lead to some tension but this was another example of media (including social media) being used by black criminals to fight against authority to allow them to commit crime with impunity. It happened in the UK too when an unarmed criminal was shot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots
There were 3100 arrests made and 5 members of the public were killed during the riots trying to stop looters and arsonists. The result was that cops will continue to come down hard on criminals as they should.
That doesn't have anything to do with the killings. Eric Garner was sat on and the other officer had a handgun just like over 100 million other American civilians. There was no use of military force. The use of excessive military force is welcomed when there's a terrorist attack. That's not to say local law enforcement should be over-militarized but condemn it when it's misused.
And I suspect that you would be just as enraged as Michael Brown's father was if your child was killed by the police, regardless of the circumstances.
Rage comes from injustice. The guy charged the officer. That’s just tragedy, and EMBARRASSMENT for raising your child such that he would ever behave in that way. Any other response is nonsense.
When you commit more crimes as a group than any other…
Whiny idiots have launched an investigation into something meaningless. Good for them. I seem to remember that third autopsy they demanded showing, wow, NOTHING that the local authorities hadn’t already found.
The “best two out of three” mentality is dangerous and disturbing, never mind wasteful.
They’re already larger and have more funding than many countries’ militaries, anyway.
No one said that, try staying on point. These problems exist and ignoring them will not make them go away. Also, don't make generalizations that you don't understand, social security and government education grants are - government programs. Just those two programs have kept people from being homeless and empowered others who don't have the financial means to pursue higher education goals.
There's a famous line that goes, "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." —Matthew 26:11
"Poor" is not a solvable problem by external forces. It's something for the individual to overcome.
Anybody resisting arrest is not too bright. One wonders what kind of terrible parents some of these people must have, that failed to teach their children basic common sense.
And minorities should be profiled more, not less, because the stats are off the charts, as certain minorities make up the vast amount of crimes committed in certain places, compared to their actual population numbers.
And I saw those disgusting white liberals on tv that were arrested recently for violently assaulting and attacking police officers on the Brooklyn bridge. The authorities need to throw the book at these ignorant, violent, liberal millennials and put them away for a long time, just to make an example.
These hypocritical dipshits think that violence is the way to go? We'll see about that. They are vastly outgunned by Americans who aren't anarchist, liberal criminals and if they wish to start something, then they will soon regret their foolish decisions. Bring it on.
Yep, all those stupid colonists that resisted the tyrannical British rule¡ Such horrible parents the US' founding fathers had¡
PS: In case it's not clear to you, it's "not too bright" to say that anyone that resists arrest is not too bright.
There’s tyranny and there’s stupidity. You know this. Are convenience store criminals trying to create a new country? Is an overly-violent cop trying to single-handedly oppress an entire country?
If there’s nothing going wrong on either end, an unwarranted (not “not with a warrant” but “without reason”) arrest will only result positively for you. You’ll get compensation for your time wasted and the cop will have action taken against him. Attacking a cop probably isn’t going to end well. If the government’s behaving unlawfully, by all means take action (physical last, not first). I fail to see how arresting criminals is unlawful.
Chanting “kill cops” as response to the justice system acting as designed isn’t going to net you many followers.
'I' know this, but 'I' didn't use the exhaustive and all inclusive term anybody to write the statements. As usual, the inherent bigotry of his comments shines through with the failure to understand what is being written.
Yep, all those stupid colonists that resisted the tyrannical British rule¡ Such horrible parents the US' founding fathers had¡
What a ridiculous comment, totally devoid of any historical understanding or perspective.
If you are one of those loonies that truly believes that the USA is evil or that the police force is the enemy, then I suggest that you go out and confront some police officers soon, and we'll see what happens.
'I' know this, but 'I' didn't use the exhaustive and all inclusive term anybody to write the statements. As usual, the inherent bigotry of his comments shines through with the failure to understand what is being written.
Yes, of course.
No matter what the thread is about, it could be about cop killers, child molesters or whoever, and as always, the rage and the focus of certain confused liberals on this forum is always directed towards me.
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The same book says:
"There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land."
"...You are to help your brothers until the LORD gives them rest, as he has done for you..."
"Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."
"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed."
"The poor are shunned even by their neighbors, but the rich have many friends. He who despises his neighbor sins, but blessed is he who is kind to the needy."
"He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God."
"He who is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward him for what he has done."
"A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor."
"He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich — both come to poverty."
"Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the LORD will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them."
"Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy."
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."
"This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the alien or the poor. In your hearts do not think evil of each other.'"
"when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."
"Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others."
"Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?"
It would probably be best to pick someone other than Jesus as a role model for not helping the poor. Poor people can't all create their own jobs, they can't all educate themselves. From a young age, people need education and discipline that is outside of their control. The response to that help comes from the individual but without external help, poverty can't solve itself. People who have never been poor tend to not appreciate that. Not that people ought to be poor at some point, they ought to be more empathic and not assume that all their good fortune was earned and deserved.
Yet again you promote policies that result in events that you criticize. People steal things because they are poor or greedy but you promote people being left in poverty. If you want a problem to go away, why purposely exacerbate it?
My post was a rebuke of government solutions, not individual solutions. Use your own actions to help others, don't rely on the stupidity of throwing money away on wasteful programs which feed into government growth and wasted tax dollars when your individual response makes more of an impact.
Gonna stop you there; “good fortune” has nothing to do with deserving or earning.
Nice to see those quotes.
However, poverty is not an excuse for stealing, any more than power is an excuse for corruption.