Protestors take over Fifth Ave Apple Store in 'die-in' demonstration

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  • Reply 241 of 365
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    So where is this ban on Coke? I see a ban on all sugary drinks over 16oz. There was absolutely nothing that would band Coca-cola from being sold Coke in NYC, but you already knew that, you're just trolling.



    Of course it was all sodas.

     

    When some people say Coke, they mean all sodas.

     

    I didn't mean that Coke would be illegal and Pepsi would be legal. 

  • Reply 242 of 365

    They should have just written the guy a $100-200 citation and left.  I also have issues with 5 cops and a supervisor on the scene of a petty crime / misdemeanor. You paint a pretty picture and it's technically valid but there are things like common sense and legitimate priorities that have as much value and might have saved a life. 

  • Reply 243 of 365
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    apple ][ wrote: »
    When some people say Coke, they mean all sodas.

    I only know of one, and that's you. Do you ask for clear Coke when you want Sprite? :lol:
  • Reply 244 of 365
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    I only know of one, and that's you. Do you ask for clear Coke when you want Sprite? image



    When I first drink soda, it's usually a Coke, so as far as I'm concerned, Coke is the word that I use.

     

    And also, I'm not alone in that, as millions of other people also use Coke as a generic name for soda.

     

    Coke[edit]

    In the Southern United States, "coke" (or "cola") is used as a generic term for any type of soft drink—not just a Coca-Cola product or another cola. This terminology is also used in areas adjacent to the traditional southern states, such as New Mexico and Southern Indiana. Several other locations have been found to use the generic "coke," such as Trinity County, California and White Pine County, Nevada,[5] although the small populations of these counties may skew survey results. A Twitter data scientist, however, found that while "soda" and "pop" dominate in the United States, "coke" as a generic soft drink name in other countries, especially in Europe.[6]

  • Reply 245 of 365
    apple ][ wrote: »

    Of course it was all sodas.

    When some people say Coke, they mean all sodas.

    I didn't mean that Coke would be illegal and Pepsi would be legal. 

    So you're still claiming this proposal was to make all soda of any volume illegal in NYC?
  • Reply 246 of 365
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,655member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

     

     

    Liberals are to blame for the outrageous cigarette taxes in New York City. It's one of the highest in the entire country.

     

    They tried to ban Coke also (not cocaine, but coca-cola, the damn soda)!

     

    I wouldn't be surprised if somebody were killed for selling a can of illegal coca-cola in the future sometime!

     

    Way to go liberals! Let's make everything illegal! Nice job!




    Yes, there are very high cigarette taxes in NYC.  That's an attempt to make it too expensive to smoke.   I hope they make it even higher.   You know when some low-income smoker with no or poor health insurance shows up in a hospital with emphysema or lung cancer, it's taxpayers who bear that cost.   Cigarettes are a dangerous, purposely addictive drug that has no good side.   Since the high taxes have been put into effect, the combination of that and educating the public has substantially reduced smoking in NYC.    My personal observation is that the majority of people still smoking in NYC are immigrants and young girls.    I was thrilled when they banned smoking in clubs and bars.   I no longer have to breathe that crap or dry-clean my coat after I visit one.   Club and bar owners claimed it would destroy their businesses, but it has not happened.   (Many have been destroyed, but it's because of rising real-estate values, not the smoking ban.)

     

    And no one tried to ban soda in NYC.   A conservative mayor (who was originally a Republican and became an Independent, not a liberal) tried to pass a law to ban large servings of soda when served in cups.   I forget the exact limit, but I think it was 16 ounces.   But it never became law.  It had good intentions, but it was a stupid law, since anyone could simply buy two servings or buy a large bottle, because it didn't recognize that fruit juice has as many carbs as soda, that the overall health effect of diet sodas may be worse than high-carb sugared sodas and because it ignored that tons of other foods are filled with carbs and it did nothing about those.     

     

    I suggest you actually research the facts before posting.   

  • Reply 247 of 365
    apple ][ wrote: »

    When I first drink soda, it's usually a Coke, so as far as I'm concerned, Coke is the word that I use.

    And also, I'm not alone in that, as millions of other people also use Coke as a generic name for soda.

    <h2 style="background-image:none;border-bottom-color:rgb(170,170,170);border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-width:1px;color:#000000;margin-bottom:.25em;margin-top:1em;padding-bottom:0px;"><span id="user_Coke">Coke</span><span style="display:inline-block;margin-left:1em;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:nowrap;"><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;">[</span>
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Names_for_soft_drinks_in_the_United_States&action=edit§ion=2" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Edit section: Coke">edit</a>
    <span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;">]</span>
    </span>
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    <p style="color:rgb(37,37,37);margin-bottom:.5em;margin-top:.5em;">In the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Southern United States">Southern United States</a>
    , "coke" (or "cola") is used as a generic term for any type of soft drink—not just a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Coca-Cola">Coca-Cola</a>
     product or another <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cola" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Cola">cola</a>
    . This terminology is also used in areas adjacent to the traditional southern states, such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="New Mexico">New Mexico</a>
     and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Indiana" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Southern Indiana">Southern Indiana</a>
    . Several other locations have been found to use the generic "coke," such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_County,_California" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Trinity County, California">Trinity County, California</a>
     and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Pine_County,_Nevada" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="White Pine County, Nevada">White Pine County, Nevada</a>
    ,<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_soft_drinks_in_the_United_States#cite_note-HP-5" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);white-space:nowrap;" target="_blank">[5]</a>
     although the small populations of these counties may skew survey results. A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Twitter">Twitter</a>
     data scientist, however, found that while "soda" and "pop" dominate in the United States, "coke" as a generic soft drink name in other countries, especially in Europe.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_soft_drinks_in_the_United_States#cite_note-6" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);white-space:nowrap;" target="_blank">[6]</a>
    </p>

    You capitalized Coke making it a proper noun and thereby referring specifically to a specific product.
  • Reply 248 of 365
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    So you're still claiming this proposal was to make all soda of any volume illegal in NYC?



    I never claimed that. It was all sodas greater than a certain volume.

  • Reply 249 of 365
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post

     

    I hope they make it even higher.   


     

    Keep making it higher.

     

    The people who are most affected will be poor minority people. And there will be more people selling loose cigs on street corners, getting choked by cops, while enforcing idiotic liberal laws.<img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 250 of 365
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,655member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    So where is this ban on Coke? I see a ban on all sugary drinks over 16oz. There was absolutely nothing that would band Coca-cola from being sold Coke in NYC, but you already knew that, you're just trolling.



    No, there's no such ban.   The law never went into effect.   It was rejected by the NY State Court of Appeals.    The City Council would have to approve such a ban and they won't, and this proposed law is not a priority of the new mayor. 

  • Reply 251 of 365
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    apple ][ wrote: »

    When I first drink soda, it's usually a Coke, so as far as I'm concerned, Coke is the word that I use.

    And also, I'm not alone in that, as millions of other people also use Coke as a generic name for soda.

    <h2 style="background-image:none;border-bottom-color:rgb(170,170,170);border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-width:1px;color:#000000;margin-bottom:.25em;margin-top:1em;padding-bottom:0px;"><span id="user_Coke">Coke</span><span style="display:inline-block;margin-left:1em;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:nowrap;"><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;">[</span>
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Names_for_soft_drinks_in_the_United_States&action=edit§ion=2" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Edit section: Coke">edit</a>
    <span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;">]</span>
    </span>
    </h2>

    <p style="color:rgb(37,37,37);margin-bottom:.5em;margin-top:.5em;">In the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Southern United States">Southern United States</a>
    , "coke" (or "cola") is used as a generic term for any type of soft drink—not just a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Coca-Cola">Coca-Cola</a>
     product or another <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cola" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Cola">cola</a>
    . This terminology is also used in areas adjacent to the traditional southern states, such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="New Mexico">New Mexico</a>
     and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Indiana" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Southern Indiana">Southern Indiana</a>
    . Several other locations have been found to use the generic "coke," such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_County,_California" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Trinity County, California">Trinity County, California</a>
     and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Pine_County,_Nevada" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="White Pine County, Nevada">White Pine County, Nevada</a>
    ,<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_soft_drinks_in_the_United_States#cite_note-HP-5" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);white-space:nowrap;" target="_blank">[5]</a>
     although the small populations of these counties may skew survey results. A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Twitter">Twitter</a>
     data scientist, however, found that while "soda" and "pop" dominate in the United States, "coke" as a generic soft drink name in other countries, especially in Europe.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_soft_drinks_in_the_United_States#cite_note-6" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);white-space:nowrap;" target="_blank">[6]</a>
    </p>

    First you live in NY(which is not on list of places it's used), and most of us know that, and two it's unwise to use a geographic specific term in the comment section of a global website.
  • Reply 252 of 365
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post

     



    No, there's no such ban.   The law never went into effect.   It was rejected by the NY State of Appeals. 




    He's just nitpicking. I never said that there was a ban. I said that they tried to ban it.

  • Reply 253 of 365
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    First you live in NY(which is not on list of places it's used), and most of us know that, and two it's unwise to use a geographic specific term in the comment section of a global website.



    I believe that we should get back on topic, if this cross examination over my choice of words for soda by you and solipism is now done.<img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 254 of 365
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    apple ][ wrote: »

    He's just nitpicking. I never said that there was a ban. I said that they tried to ban it.

    It wasn't a ban on it entirely. They wanted to limit the size in which you could buy it for personal immediate consumption. You would be able to buy a 2 liter bottle, but they wanted to ban 2 liter cups.
  • Reply 255 of 365
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    apple ][ wrote: »

    I believe that we should get back on topic, if this cross examination over my choice of words for soda by you and solipism is now done.:lol:

    Done and won it is.
  • Reply 256 of 365
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,655member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

     

     

    Keep making it higher.

     

    The people who are most affected will be poor minority people. And there will be more people selling loose cigs on street corners, getting choked by cops, while enforcing idiotic liberal laws.<img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />




    You keep saying it's a liberal law.   It was pushed and passed by conservative mayors.   The increase in cigarette taxes came mostly during the term of Rudy Giuliani, a Republican who served from 1994 to 2001 and Michael Bloomberg, a Republican who later turned Independent and who served through the end of 2013.

     

    The current mayor is indeed a liberal.   But he's the first liberal Mayor in over 20 years and he hasn't raised any cigarette taxes yet. 

  • Reply 257 of 365
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    It wasn't a ban on it entirely. They wanted to limit the size in which you could buy it for personal immediate consumption. You would be able to buy a 2 liter bottle, but they wanted to ban 2 liter cups.



    Yes, I realize that. The ban would also limit the types of stores where it could be sold.

  • Reply 258 of 365
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post

     

    The current mayor is indeed a liberal.   But he's the first liberal Mayor in over 20 years and he hasn't raised any cigarette taxes yet. 


     

    I think that we just have different definitions for different things.

     

    Bloomberg is a liberal in my view. His actions are all liberal, no matter which symbol is next to his name.

     

    And DeBlasio is more of a progressive socialist in my view. And he's only been in office a short time. Give him some time. He'll make New York worse soon enough. 

  • Reply 259 of 365
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    apple ][ wrote: »

    Yes, I realize that. The ban would also limit the types of stores where it could be sold.

    Because of course NYC is in dire need of more stores.
  • Reply 260 of 365
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    apple ][ wrote: »
    He'll make New York worse soon enough. 

    Good, maybe all the hipsters will move out. They'll be less protesters, and more apartments. ;)
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