It sounds like most of them are hired through a third party. Not sure Apple sets the pay scale. Don't you feel they are using Apple. Its kinda like yelling through the ass end of a dog and expecting it to bark words.
That's 'yes we can' which excludes a third party. If I, or anyone was to ask you 'can it be done?', you can answer 'yes it can' which is 'si se puede', which includes all parties potentially involved. The grammar is correct, but it's usage can be argued.
Jesse Jackson is nothing but trouble; he was trouble decades ago in Georgia & continues to be "divider" where ever he goes. Apple is the major stock I hold and I do not approve of him and his hired thugs even being allowed to meet with Apple or walk on the campus. I cannot think of any reason why this security company should be retained by any Silicon Valley Company. If Apple, Google, MS or any other company even believe for a minute these people will protect their assets, they are very misled. He and Al Sharpton are cut from the same mold - both are security risks. They make their living by stirring up trouble and discontent.
Apple Insider does not need to allow any Political Blogs to be aired.
Wasn't there an article the other day about Cook meeting with Jackson?
It sure sounds like the meeting (or shakedown) was not that successful as first claimed." src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Screw these workers! And screw union thugs and shakedown artists like Jackson!
And why are they protesting in Spanish? Get the F out of here! These people can't even speak English and they're demanding higher wages? They should all have to undergo background checks, and if any illegals are found, then they should immediately be apprehended and deported.
Once fucking Union step in, every sucks. To all Americans, this is why corporate never bring business back to the States. $20/hr for easy ass security job...yeah, Apple can hire 2 engineers abroad with that pay and still have some left for some janitors.
Apple pays the security company and not the security guards. Shouldn't they be protesting at the security company headquarters? Are they protesting at every company that they provide security for or just Apple?
It is apples vs oranges comparing skills of security guards to tech workers.
These security guards are mostly dumb and uneducated. That's why they don't know where to protest. It's like Foxconn workers protest Apple for low pay or long working hours...lol. btw, learn to speak English before protesting or it makes those look like idiots.
I don't mean racist but I never gave money to those panhandlers who asked me in the own languages, not English.
I recommend emailing Tim Cook tonight or tomorrow and letting him know as either an Apple supporter/customer or shareholder you urge them to not negotiate with corporate shakedown artists and union blackmailers.
Wow, didn't Cook meet with Jackson just yesterday? Then the guy pulls this? I'm not a Jesse Jackson hater, but seems pretty classless, especially after the "very productive and positive" comments.
Also, pretty hilarious how Apple is always the one attacked whenever anyone has a beef with "silicon valley".
While I am thoroughly opposed to Jackson and these types of protest strategies, I would imagine that a security job at Apple is extremely serious, given all that is at stake and competitor thievery all around (remember, for example, the Eddie Cue skit at the last keynote?).
Why isn't Apple, regardless of thugs like Jackson, hiring the best and the brightest -- say, ex-Navy SEAL-types -- with the highest possible, industry-leading pay to look after security!?
While I am thoroughly opposed to Jackson and these types of protest strategies, I would imagine that a security job at Apple is extremely serious, given all that is at stake and competitor thievery all around (remember, for example, the Eddie Cue skit at the last keynote?).
Why isn't Apple, regardless of thugs like Jackson, hiring the best and the brightest -- say, ex-Navy SEAL-types -- with the highest possible, industry-leading pay to look after security!?
Obviously the current security service is lousy. They apparently allowed corporate blackmailers onto Apple's property.
Why isn't Apple, regardless of thugs like Jackson, hiring the best and the brightest -- say, ex-Navy SEAL-types -- with the highest possible, industry-leading pay to look after security!?
I may be mistaken, and if I am, then somebody is free to correct me, but it seems to me that Apple isn't even hiring these people. These people have nothing to do with Apple.
Apple contracts the work out, and Apple is paying some sort of security company or contractor, and that company supplies the guards and the workers. If the workers have any beef, it's with their employers, not with Apple!
Apple should dump their security company that they pay and either get some other company to provide services or just do it themselves, and make an Apple run security division. If Apple brought ad creation back in house, then Apple could certainly do security also!
What contractors pay their workers is the contractor company's problem. They can protest there.
Is Apple going to go with the highest bidding contractor? This is doubtful.
These workers are stupid which is why they are working in those jobs. Being stupid has never really paid well in the history of mankind... Unless you are an entertainer or something. Manual labor is a SURE FIRE WAY TO BE POOR.
They can start their own company, charge $40 an hour, and see how things go.
Wasn't there an article the other day about Cook meeting with Jackson?
It sure sounds like the meeting (or shakedown) was not that successful as first claimed." src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Screw these workers! And screw union thugs and shakedown artists like Jackson!
And why are they protesting in Spanish? Get the F out of here! These people can't even speak English and they're demanding higher wages? They should all have to undergo background checks, and if any illegals are found, then they should immediately be apprehended and deported.
Once fucking Union step in, every sucks.
Not really, just the bad/corrupt ones. For sure a union presence isn't always better than not, but it's not a poison pill by any means.
On the other hand, Jesse Jackson has as much to do with actual unions as Martin Luther King Jr. had with skydiving. You could say "Once a phony civil rights ambulance chasing media whore preacher steps in..."
Poor ol' "Reverend" Jesse Jackson struck out in Ferguson, so he had to find another cause celebre to score some "donations" on.
A crook who's never worked an honest day in his life representing a shiftless organization whose only real goal is to siphon as much extortion money as possible out of corporations, even ones who never bothered to employ them. One hand washes the other, obviously.
Apple pays the security company and not the security guards. Shouldn't they be protesting at the security company headquarters? Are they protesting at every company that they provide security for or just Apple?
It is apples vs oranges comparing skills of security guards to tech workers.
They can't protest their security company for two reasons:
1. Apple generates news headlines. Doesn't make if it makes sense or not.
2. They might get fired.
Bonus reason: I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the protesters got a "motivation" from Google, Samsung, et al. Maybe even told to make a sign saying something about the tax.
From the San Jose Mercury News story: "After Jackson left for the airport, the protesters marched into an Apple building to deliver a petition ..."
That says about all that's worth saying. Here in his Chicago home base, he's been playing this game with local media for decades and his act became threadbare years ago. The TV stations no longer even bother to send out camera crews. And running a sound bite from Jesse? Forget about it.
From the San Jose Mercury News story: "After Jackson left for the airport, the protesters marched into an Apple building to deliver a petition ..."
That says about all that's worth saying. Here in his Chicago home base, he's been playing this game with local media for decades and his act became threadbare years ago. The TV stations no longer even bother to send out camera crews. And running a sound bite from Jesse? Forget about it.
Apple's message to the protestors should've been: You are on private property. Get out!
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Jesse Jackson is nothing but trouble; he was trouble decades ago in Georgia & continues to be "divider" where ever he goes. Apple is the major stock I hold and I do not approve of him and his hired thugs even being allowed to meet with Apple or walk on the campus. I cannot think of any reason why this security company should be retained by any Silicon Valley Company. If Apple, Google, MS or any other company even believe for a minute these people will protect their assets, they are very misled. He and Al Sharpton are cut from the same mold - both are security risks. They make their living by stirring up trouble and discontent.
Apple Insider does not need to allow any Political Blogs to be aired.
Wasn't there an article the other day about Cook meeting with Jackson?
It sure sounds like the meeting (or shakedown) was not that successful as first claimed.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Screw these workers! And screw union thugs and shakedown artists like Jackson!
And why are they protesting in Spanish? Get the F out of here! These people can't even speak English and they're demanding higher wages? They should all have to undergo background checks, and if any illegals are found, then they should immediately be apprehended and deported.
Once fucking Union step in, every sucks. To all Americans, this is why corporate never bring business back to the States. $20/hr for easy ass security job...yeah, Apple can hire 2 engineers abroad with that pay and still have some left for some janitors.
Apple pays the security company and not the security guards. Shouldn't they be protesting at the security company headquarters? Are they protesting at every company that they provide security for or just Apple?
It is apples vs oranges comparing skills of security guards to tech workers.
These security guards are mostly dumb and uneducated. That's why they don't know where to protest. It's like Foxconn workers protest Apple for low pay or long working hours...lol. btw, learn to speak English before protesting or it makes those look like idiots.
I don't mean racist but I never gave money to those panhandlers who asked me in the own languages, not English.
Also, pretty hilarious how Apple is always the one attacked whenever anyone has a beef with "silicon valley".
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Thanks, I'm normally catch those.
Why isn't Apple, regardless of thugs like Jackson, hiring the best and the brightest -- say, ex-Navy SEAL-types -- with the highest possible, industry-leading pay to look after security!?
Obviously the current security service is lousy. They apparently allowed corporate blackmailers onto Apple's property.
Why isn't Apple, regardless of thugs like Jackson, hiring the best and the brightest -- say, ex-Navy SEAL-types -- with the highest possible, industry-leading pay to look after security!?
I may be mistaken, and if I am, then somebody is free to correct me, but it seems to me that Apple isn't even hiring these people. These people have nothing to do with Apple.
Apple contracts the work out, and Apple is paying some sort of security company or contractor, and that company supplies the guards and the workers. If the workers have any beef, it's with their employers, not with Apple!
Apple should dump their security company that they pay and either get some other company to provide services or just do it themselves, and make an Apple run security division. If Apple brought ad creation back in house, then Apple could certainly do security also!
Is Apple going to go with the highest bidding contractor? This is doubtful.
These workers are stupid which is why they are working in those jobs. Being stupid has never really paid well in the history of mankind... Unless you are an entertainer or something. Manual labor is a SURE FIRE WAY TO BE POOR.
They can start their own company, charge $40 an hour, and see how things go.
Wasn't there an article the other day about Cook meeting with Jackson?
It sure sounds like the meeting (or shakedown) was not that successful as first claimed.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Screw these workers! And screw union thugs and shakedown artists like Jackson!
And why are they protesting in Spanish? Get the F out of here! These people can't even speak English and they're demanding higher wages? They should all have to undergo background checks, and if any illegals are found, then they should immediately be apprehended and deported.
Once fucking Union step in, every sucks.
Not really, just the bad/corrupt ones. For sure a union presence isn't always better than not, but it's not a poison pill by any means.
On the other hand, Jesse Jackson has as much to do with actual unions as Martin Luther King Jr. had with skydiving. You could say "Once a phony civil rights ambulance chasing media whore preacher steps in..."
Poor ol' "Reverend" Jesse Jackson struck out in Ferguson, so he had to find another cause celebre to score some "donations" on.
A crook who's never worked an honest day in his life representing a shiftless organization whose only real goal is to siphon as much extortion money as possible out of corporations, even ones who never bothered to employ them. One hand washes the other, obviously.
Apple pays the security company and not the security guards. Shouldn't they be protesting at the security company headquarters? Are they protesting at every company that they provide security for or just Apple?
It is apples vs oranges comparing skills of security guards to tech workers.
They can't protest their security company for two reasons:
1. Apple generates news headlines. Doesn't make if it makes sense or not.
2. They might get fired.
Bonus reason: I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the protesters got a "motivation" from Google, Samsung, et al. Maybe even told to make a sign saying something about the tax.
From the San Jose Mercury News story: "After Jackson left for the airport, the protesters marched into an Apple building to deliver a petition ..."
That says about all that's worth saying. Here in his Chicago home base, he's been playing this game with local media for decades and his act became threadbare years ago. The TV stations no longer even bother to send out camera crews. And running a sound bite from Jesse? Forget about it.
Apple's message to the protestors should've been: You are on private property. Get out!
Jackson at the very least should be arrested, tried and permanently dealt with. It really a shame that we let people like this get away with so much.